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100%. any asseyelum seekers coming into are country should be forced to have gay sex in front of a british person, like me, to prove that there actually a seeker, and then once they’ve finished, we chuck em on the barges.
 
Please, this cannot be allowed here. For gods sake someone has taken the thread off topic, this is not right mods. I know these posters have a longstanding history here, but this is not right. I can't be the only one that thinks this?

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Please, this cannot be allowed here. For gods sake someone has taken the thread off topic, this is not right mods. I know these posters have a longstanding history here, but this is not right. I can't be the only one that thinks this?

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100%. any asseyelum seekers coming into are country should be forced to have gay sex in front of a british person, like me, to prove that there actually a seeker, and then once they’ve finished, we chuck em on the barges.
What happens if they're one of those gay senders instead?
 
Potholes (a 100bn pound transport link being shelved) and asylum seekers pretending to be gay to get into Britain. BrassEye stuff.
 
He will pay the price for his lack of vision, as a great man once said.

I think Sunak is already recognising this in his thinking, 'my God what will happen if those Northerners get a decent transport system, they will start to compete with the South... not on my watch, they already have the Trans-Pennine Link (posh name for M62), The Humber Bridge, for heaven's sake they even have a Ferry across the Mersey, what more do they want...? If HS2 went ahead 'up North' they might stop wearing flat caps and keeping coal in the bath... good gracious'. ;)
 
I think Sunak is already recognising this in his thinking, 'my God what will happen if those Northerners get a decent transport system, they will start to compete with the South... not on my watch, they already have the Trans-Pennine Link (posh name for M62), The Humber Bridge, for heaven's sake they even have a Ferry across the Mersey, what more do they want...? If HS2 went ahead 'up North' they might stop wearing flat caps and keeping coal in the bath... good gracious'. ;)
Don't forget all the canals to transport stuff around and an airport so the masters can easy escape the plebs
 
The North doesn't need another railway to get to London faster. The London-centric thinking is part of the problem. It's just a shame it's the costs cancelling HS2 instead of the environmental damage it's causing.
 
The North doesn't need another railway to get to London faster. The London-centric thinking is part of the problem. It's just a shame it's the costs cancelling HS2 instead of the environmental damage it's causing.
If we're being honest this was always the plan. Yet another London centric project to artificially fatten up the southern behemoth, paid for by everyone, that magically loses funding as soon as the London portion has been bought and paid for. Future generations will be told how important London is to the rest of the UK when in reality it's been getting all the food for centuries and we've been told to be grateful that we're even allowed to chew on its leftovers.
 
Please, this cannot be allowed here. For gods sake someone has taken the thread off topic, this is not right mods. I know these posters have a longstanding history here, but this is not right. I can't be the only one that thinks this?
for what its worth id be happy to hear of her demise. hopefully in a rather painful manner.
 
The North doesn't need another railway to get to London faster. The London-centric thinking is part of the problem. It's just a shame it's the costs cancelling HS2 instead of the environmental damage it's causing.
You don’t think the North having high speed transport to the south would help move away from the London-centric thinking?
 
You don’t think the North having high speed transport to the south would help move away from the London-centric thinking?

Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but in all seriousness, no. Because the idea of HS2 seems to be to extend the London commuter belt to Birmingham and parts of the North where living costs are lower, as opposed to actually encouraging investment into Northern towns and cities. This will in turn artificially increase living costs in those areas due to London salaries reaching that far out. It's not like HS2 is a haulage line, it's being built for commuting.
 
He really is fecking clueless, can't even provide a politicians stock answer.




The way it always falls to bbc local journalists to take politicians to task is a damning indictment of the political journalists who work around Westminster.
 
You don’t think the North having high speed transport to the south would help move away from the London-centric thinking?
Unless something seriously changes with the franchising system and the POS companies running the services, I don't see how simply saving an hour on your journey - that will likely cost triple figures - is going to help Manchester and surrounding areas much at all. Then add the revised plans where elevated tracks will need to be constructed through the city after the government reneged on their initial idea of an underground link to Piccadilly Station and it looks increasingly like a raw deal.
 
It's quite incredible to see Sunak take one by-election in Uxbridge that was impacted by the ULEZ and reshape his whole platform around being wholy car-centric.
 
It's quite incredible to see Sunak take one by-election in Uxbridge that was impacted by the ULEZ and reshape his whole platform around being wholy car-centric.

What else could he campaign on? Leenoch Anderson said it himself a while ago, all they have are Trans issues and culture wars.

He'll take what was the thinnest of victories and magnify it times 1000 in the hope of clinging on to power.
 
It's quite incredible to see Sunak take one by-election in Uxbridge that was impacted by the ULEZ and reshape his whole platform around being wholy car-centric.

Not really he is like a drowning man grasping at straws.

A large proportion of the so called 'swing voters' in the country, vote often on the basis of a one item issue, something they believe will help them; it's not political thought, it's not a fundamental belief, it's not always the right thing to do, it's usually very narrowly focused, but it's usually focused on something they are concerned about, or feel strongly about.

Sunak will try very hard to 'shave' the final Labour majority at the next GE; it will not be enough to prevent Labour forming a government, but just enough to prevent them being 'in power'. If he achieves that it will be a result for the Tory party, it gives them an outside chance of getting back after 5 years or so, when Labour (or whoever wins) will be battling 'strong head winds' for the foreseeable future and without a sizeable majority will be fortunate to keep their heads above water, let alone change the political dynamic back to the majority of people who keep the wheels turning.
 
Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but in all seriousness, no. Because the idea of HS2 seems to be to extend the London commuter belt to Birmingham and parts of the North where living costs are lower, as opposed to actually encouraging investment into Northern towns and cities. This will in turn artificially increase living costs in those areas due to London salaries reaching that far out. It's not like HS2 is a haulage line, it's being built for commuting.

No it isnt, but it is being built to free up the other haulage and commuter lines so they can run more trains instead of worrying about fittng in the express services.

High speed or not we need another rail line. If we're building one it may as well be the best we can build and I can't think of any country where a high speed network hasn't benefited the regions it connects to.
 
If we're building one it may as well be the best we can build and I can't think of any country where a high speed network hasn't benefited the regions it connects to.
This sounds good until you remember that they're planning to cancel the remainder of this single line because it's cost shitloads. Meanwhile the rest of the UK has nothing. Money well spent.
 
This sounds good until you remember that they're planning to cancel the remainder of this single line because it's cost shitloads. Meanwhile the rest of the UK has nothing. Money well spent.

Well infrastructure spending is a great way to stimulate your economy and we've lagged behind for years.
 
This friend of the motorist bullshit he was spouting on Radio Manchester is quite a stance to take. Anyone drive in Manchester? It's fecking dreadful. If you ever try and drive out to the countryside at the weekend or commute from anywhere in GM to the city centre at peak times it's a nightmare. Our tiny roads don't need more cars, they need fewer cars and reliable rail to make them quieter for those with no other option. Even the biggest bootcut wanker petrolhead doesn't think the answer is more cars. If that's the plan, we'd have to spend billions widening roads and that's only ever a very short term, expensive fix.
 
Well infrastructure spending is a great way to stimulate your economy and we've lagged behind for years.

Corbyn campaigned on infrastructure spending so it must be going against British values or something to even suggest such a thing
 
Corbyn campaigned on infrastructure spending so it must be going against British values or something to even suggest such a thing

If only the rest of his campaign had been any good.
 
No it isnt, but it is being built to free up the other haulage and commuter lines so they can run more trains instead of worrying about fittng in the express services.

High speed or not we need another rail line. If we're building one it may as well be the best we can build and I can't think of any country where a high speed network hasn't benefited the regions it connects to.

In spain there are plenty of high speed train sections that are useless and that this money (a lot) could be better spend on regional projects or to unite other big cities like valencia and barcelona or the mediterranean corridor. But as in spain everything is madrid centric like london

In UK, a great network (not talking specifically of HS) that could unite the north, could be more beneficial for the north? Talking without knowing UKs reality
 
In spain there are plenty of high speed train sections that are useless and that this money (a lot) could be better spend on regional projects or to unite other big cities like valencia and barcelona or the mediterranean corridor. But as in spain everything is madrid centric like london

In UK, a great network (not talking specifically of HS) that could unite the north, could be more beneficial for the north? Talking without knowing UKs reality

Is that the Spanish view or the Catalan view? :wenger:

The plan was originally supposed to do exactly that but it has slowly been stripped down. HS3 was supposed to link the Northern cities and HS2 was to connect them to London. It would have been brilliant. HS3 has become little more than some new track on the existing line and HS2 looks like its going to be a small London commuter route.
 
But as in spain everything is madrid centric like london

In any country ,wherever the 'seat of government' lies, there resides the most money, spending, development, services, projects, etc. run by the government. This tends to be true whether it's a democracy or not.
 
Is that the Spanish view or the Catalan view? :wenger:

The plan was originally supposed to do exactly that but it has slowly been stripped down. HS3 was supposed to link the Northern cities and HS2 was to connect them to London. It would have been brilliant. HS3 has become little more than some new track on the existing line and HS2 looks like its going to be a small London commuter route.

They should have been done in reverse order. Tens of billions wasted and there'll be nothing useful to show for it.
 
His policies were fantastic, his PR was appalling, not helped by the media of course.

If they were fantastic they wouldn't have been so easily ripped apart. One led to the other.
 
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If they were fantastic they wouldn't have been so easily ripped apart. One led to the other.
They were mocked with the old 'magic money tree' attack the right wing always uses. But then within a year those same people found billions for furlough and an absolutely useless track and trace system.
 
They were mocked with the old 'magic money tree' attack the right wing always uses. But then within a year those same people found billions for furlough and an absolutely useless track and trace system.

And 10 bn for the DUP to prop them up in Westminster