Westminster Politics

Have you not met @Dobba ? Absolute raging right wing Tory that’s pledge to vote Reform this coming election. When Laurence Fox starts moaning about Billie taking his weans, Dobba owns the first shoulder Fox is allowed to cry on.
The feck you on about? :lol: I'm a socialist who'd walk infront of a moving train before voting Tory (Red or Blue) or Reform you lying cnut.
Is that the takeaway from today's budget news?
The Tories are dead and buried, the only takeaway from today's budget is that austerity is here to stay before and after the next GE.
 
The feck you on about? :lol: I'm a socialist who'd walk infront of a moving train before voting Tory (Red or Blue) or Reform you lying cnut.

The Tories are dead and buried, the only takeaway from today's budget is that austerity is here to stay before and after the next GE.

The lady doth protest too much
 
In 'normal' times that might be a popular budget from the Tories but they've built up so much animosity that I don't think the usual cheap tricks will make any difference.

they really pulled it out of the bag with the british isa. will be moving 5k there as soon as i can.
 
Yeah, all anyone is talking about is the Labour party social media content right now.
 


David Cameron was asked for his greatest achievement. He replied Rachel Reeves.
 


David Cameron was asked for his greatest achievement. He replied Rachel Reeves.

It’s even worse though, when you think about it. As bad as Cameron was in terms of austerity and his gamble on the EU referendum, he was still very socially liberal for a Tory. I honestly can’t see Starmer doing anything as progressive as gay marriage, because he’s terrified of how it will play in the ‘red wall’.
 
It’s even worse though, when you think about it. As bad as Cameron was in terms of austerity and his gamble on the EU referendum, he was still very socially liberal for a Tory. I honestly can’t see Starmer doing anything as progressive as gay marriage, because he’s terrified of how it will play in the ‘red wall’.

That was the Lib Dem influence, and it was/is where the UK is at socially so amending the legislation to reflect that is an easy thing to do.
 
It’s even worse though, when you think about it. As bad as Cameron was in terms of austerity and his gamble on the EU referendum, he was still very socially liberal for a Tory. I honestly can’t see Starmer doing anything as progressive as gay marriage, because he’s terrified of how it will play in the ‘red wall’.
Tbf Cameron could only do that because he got help from Labour votes in parliament. But yeah Wes Streeting have already talked about segregating healthcare for trans people so can’t expect any social liberal policy.

Centre “left”/liberals tend to try to prove themselves as loyal subjects to the British ruling class. Which could result in a Starmer led Labour government pushing for policies further to the right than any Tories government.
 
That video is just depressing. It's literally the Tory mantra regurgitated.
 
Labour 2024 are further right than Cameron’s 2010 Tories. Show me a shred of evidence otherwise.
 
Yeah but they're not called the Conservative Party and that's really all that matters.
Tories without the cronyism seems to be the campaign message and they will change if they get into power. I absolutely believe they will too. I’ve seen the donations that they’ve be accepting from big oil and the gambling industry and the water companies so what’s different about Labour that means they will resist the cronyism?
 


Her answer to everything is cut benefits and force the disabled back to into work.


If she's as small minded as you are surely that's the case. Of course, in the UK we could work towards improving working conditions and working and career opportunities for the disabled both in and out of the workplace, but hey politicians are a microcopy of the population, so she's probably talking about what you're talking about.
 
10% lobbyist is a fairly low number I would have thought.

Indeed, I thought all MP's were supposed to be lobbyists, ....on behalf of their constituents.
I suppose if some constituents in any particular area are very wealthy and want to support their local MP, they might offer donations, especially if the donation is offered by the wealthy Chair of a registered not for profit Charity, based in the said constituency.

Well, it has a veneer of truth!! ;)
 
That was the Lib Dem influence, and it was/is where the UK is at socially so amending the legislation to reflect that is an easy thing to do.
Cameron was personally in favour of it, despite many Tories still being opposed. That’s the point I’m making - Starmer/Reeves, on the current evidence, would never be so bold, as they won’t appear to stand for anything other than getting into power.
 
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Cutting first and then maybe some funding if the cutting works(Which it never does).



Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Ms Reeves signalled Labour now plans to fund their plans through savings to future government spending, rather than an alternative tax rise.
"We will go through every pound spent, every tax raised, and make that sure we can continue to fund those commitments," she said.
"We will identify the savings we can make to fund this," she said, underlining the party's election manifesto would be "fully costed and fully funded". But she did not offer further details, adding the party would first need to go through the government's plans in an "orderly way" before it would be in a position to do so.

 
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This current version of Labour are the greatest thing to happen to anyone with Tory values who can look beyond the colour of the rosette.
 
This current version of Labour are the greatest thing to happen to anyone with Tory values who can look beyond the colour of the rosette.
Shy Tories. They can now openly vote for Tory policies and try to claim the moral high ground as well.
 
I'm glad National Insurance will be scrapped. It probably does nothing anyway and can be paid for by getting scroungers back to work.
Hope you aren't expecting a pension from the government when you retire then