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This is very fair reasoning.
When talking about race? That's literally how it works
It's a made up construct by which people can discriminate against each other on the basis of culture and appearance. And white people in small towns in the south of England are the most numerous group to do it in the UK in my experience. It's not to say nobody else does it, just that the most numerous groups are the ones the politicians target most.
Understood.
it's also what equality campaigners do. And probably pretty much every other human at some point.Muslim, not Moslem
Has a PM ever been this weak? If Sunak has any balls, he would call for an election immediately.
Cameron? May? Truss? He's just inherited the shittiest end of all their shitty sticks, and after Boris had taken a massive dump on the whole log pile too. Also wouldn't he need the party to vote with him to call an election thanks to Cameron?
Personally I really hope they put Mordaunt in. If she were to take the beating that really would taint their last vaguely presentable contender and hopefully kill them off for years.
If he calls for one, there no way he doesn’t win the vote.
OK...sorry, no offence.
I misread Oxford dictionary definition: Moslem (Noun)- "a follower of the religion of Islam",
NB. As others posters on here will tell you, I am not well upon grammar
Really?
He may be weak but he isn’t stupid ….why would he call an election now?
He’ll have more of a sway over a large swathe of the electorate than any Tory in the next election. He’s actually good at working the culture war to his own benefit. The entire Tory party is just loud.
Irrelevant when outside the tent pissing in. But the feral little fecker is in the building now. He’ll find a little cohort of cnuts and poison the well in a meaningful manner. He’ll be toxic and loud. The Tories are traders in homeopathy by comparison.
Yeah there’s a layer of hyperbole there, it’s punched up. But I truly believe he can do more damage at election time than any of the Tories. They’re all dead. Toast.
Are you actually suggesting that the rhetoric of the Tory party is less dangerous and influential than the largely derided and marginal "Gorgeous" George? How will he do this damage at election time that'll be greater than a party openly waging a culture war who'll get, worse case scenario, 25% of the vote, have large swathes of the media on their side, are backed by the majority of the most powerful people in the country and will literally be the sitting Government? This is just silly.
This tallies up with my experience when moving from a big city in the UK to a small one surrounded by rural areas with a 96% white/1% muslim demographic.When talking about race? That's literally how it works
It's a made up construct by which people can discriminate against each other on the basis of culture and appearance. And white people in small towns in the south of England are the most numerous group to do it in the UK in my experience. It's not to say nobody else does it, just that the most numerous groups are the ones the politicians target most.
Because it's going to get much, much worse for them than if they just had one now.
England win the Euros
growth in the economy rises to 2%+
inflation falls to below 2%
energy prices halve
lot of potential wins to mop up if he waits
Channel crossings increase
New physical checks on imported goods from the end of April
Right wing rebellion assembles behind 1 candidate and the rebellion is big enough to oust him
More people's fixed term mortgages ending and higher repayments
Lot of potential problems, difference is most of these will definitely happen, whereas his potential wins are very likely to not happen.
Don’t think it could get any worse
Every time I think they hit rock bottom, they seem to find a new low. Been that way since the Owen Patterson scandal.
Indeed ….Pandemic, war in Ukraine, Palestine, mass inflation ….a bottomless pit of shite.
Yes ok.
But each and every day he waits is another opportunity for yet more bad news. Like the current racist Tory donor.
And Sunak has handled this terribly by being so slow to react as well as refusing to hand the toxic donations back.
In some respects a lot of people have already made up their mind, especially about Sunak. As have 62 of the Tory MPs who have decided to not stand again.
As the saying goes....many a slip between cup and lip.
Far before that, Austerity, Brexit etc
What's left that could cost the tories 5+ points though?
A big slip costing labour 10+ points seems more likely to me, given how the press is skewed. They'd jump on anything.
I honestly don't know what to say about this.
Galloway is a monumental twat but I honestly can't see any way in which he can be described as the most dangerous mp, in a time when we have a party and it's hundreds of mps who have destroyed public services in this country, removed us from the EU, inflamed tensions between communities and are openly leaning into the culture war. The mps who crashed the economy as pm and Chancellor are still there, as is the mp who spouted bile constantly about migrants and pro Palestine marches. The mp who called the mayor of London in thrall to islamists. The PM and MP who stokes culture war nonsense about trans rights. I could go on.
The only way this comment even slightly makes sense is if there's a suggestion that the Muslim community in this country is essentially a bubbling 5th column, ready to be whipped up into a frenzy by Galloway over Gaza.
As an aside, going back to the hester comments, it always pisses me off when people hide behind their own ethnic minority status as a reason they can't be racist. Which obviously is such a fascetious point.
Some of the most obvious anti black racism I've noticed within this country for instance has come from south Asians and Arabs. One colleague from an Indian background told me, without any hint of worry, that he'd be happy for his daughter to marry anyone, as long as they weren't Muslim or black. Braverman is dripping with derision for Muslims. I've heard Arabs make very casually racist comments around my much lighter skinned kids, not knowing their background. etc etc.
It's such an easy shield. And a ridiculous one. Pisses me off.
Some of the most obvious anti black racism I've noticed within this country for instance has come from south Asians and Arabs. One colleague from an Indian background told me, without any hint of worry, that he'd be happy for his daughter to marry anyone, as long as they weren't Muslim or black. Braverman is dripping with derision for Muslims. I've heard Arabs make very casually racist comments around my much lighter skinned kids, not knowing their background. etc etc.
It's such an easy shield. And a ridiculous one. Pisses me off.
This bit. Given enough runway, He’ll create a culture war in that space that actually divides people. He’s a cnut. But he’s a fairly effective one in the right (wrong) weather.
fecking Hell.
Ah right, as opposed to the culture wars, faltering services, economic mismanagement and poverty we've had in the past decade, which are uniting people and haven't already had an awful and dangerous impact on so many peoples lives.
Nope, what's actually most dangerous are this primed for civil war religious minority and the cat mimicking buffoon at their head.
This is beyond hyperbole. I find posts like this so bizarre. We’ve had Tories run this country into the ground - it’s as worse as it’s ever been but we’re all meant to be afraid of GG and what he stands for? Come off it.
I'm not in Team Corbyn by any means but this conservative donor race row thing has me thinking how much he would have eviscerated the Tories over it. Starmer has no moral authority really because let's face it he'd take the cnut's money if he could, whereas Corbyn would be able to call the Tories out as the poodles that they are. It's a shame the Labour party in general is so cretinous on both its left and right wings.
Bloke is threatening his own MPs with an election.
The best thing that can happen to democracy is to deprive it of big money, especially here in the UK, and more so in the US. Its hard to say how successful Corbyn would have been in attempting to weed out that rot, but I have no faith that Starmer would be able to curtail it. He's probably seen as malleable enough to be the recipient of these mega donors, who will just as quickly abandon him if/when the Tories restore a semblance of popularity again. Basically, we're stuck with being at the mercy of them until we have a complete rehaul of the system.
It's the only bit of 'power' he has left!
"You're only in a job because I haven't called a GE yet. Sure, I'll lose my job as PM once we have the catastrophic defeat, but I'm more likely to keep my MP job than you are!"
Tory donor racism row just 'trivia', according to Kemi Badenoch.
She was one of the first Tories to actually denounce Hester's comments as racist, but admits she doesn't give a shit cos £10m.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...diane-abbott-comments-kemi-badenoch-lt82g5s6s
She was one of the first Tories to actually denounce Hester's comments as racist, but admits she doesn't give a shit cos £10m.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...diane-abbott-comments-kemi-badenoch-lt82g5s6s
His problem would have been the Union money and him being seen as their puppet. The donor scandal is really about influence buying and Corbyn's lack of distance from leading union figures would have hamstrung him. In all his time as leader I thought he was pretty ineffective in the media game.
How many have been deported illegally?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-attempt-to-deport-uk-born-man-was-judge-says
Home Office attempt to deport UK-born man was illegal, judge says
Tribunal finds that Dmitry Lima, who has never left the UK, is British citizen and should not be deported to Portugal
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-attempt-to-deport-uk-born-man-was-judge-says
Home Office attempt to deport UK-born man was illegal, judge says
Tribunal finds that Dmitry Lima, who has never left the UK, is British citizen and should not be deported to Portugal
This could be the end of the party. Not because of Rishi being any good, but I genuinely think if they change again and go straight to an election, the electorate will crush them into the dirt.
Fingers crossed.