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England U21 v Serbia U21
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Zola rues Rossi decision Sunday 17 June, 2007
Italy consultant Gianfranco Zola admits they were wrong in leaving Giuseppe Rossi on the bench in the European Under-21 Championships.
“Giuseppe is an important player, but at the start so was Palladino, so we thought it was right to keep faith with Raffaele,” he said after the Azzurrini crashed out of the tournament.
“Obviously with hindsight you can say many things, but at the time we thought that was the right thing to do.”
The decision to give Rossi only 16 minutes against Serbia and the second half in the 2-2 draw with England caused controversy and confusion in the Italian media.
In his first start of the competition this evening, he scored for the 3-1 win over the Czech Republic and was voted Man of the Match by UEFA.
Despite the result, Italy still go out at the first hurdle thanks to England’s controversial 2-0 victory over the already qualified Serbia.
“Clearly this is not enough, as we thought – and I still think – we deserved to go further,” added Zola.
“Unfortunately we are paying the price for mistakes above all in the first game, which looking carefully we did not deserve to lose. We didn’t do enough against Serbia in terms of finishing.
“These things can happen and the lads can be proud they gave their all with more or less everyone playing their part.”
It’s not all over yet, as Italy face a play-off with Portugal on Thursday for a place in the 2008 Olympics.
This is because England can only compete as part of Great Britain, so their presence in the top four leaves a space open.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun17r.html
Italy consultant Gianfranco Zola admits they were wrong in leaving Giuseppe Rossi on the bench in the European Under-21 Championships.
“Giuseppe is an important player, but at the start so was Palladino, so we thought it was right to keep faith with Raffaele,” he said after the Azzurrini crashed out of the tournament.
“Obviously with hindsight you can say many things, but at the time we thought that was the right thing to do.”
The decision to give Rossi only 16 minutes against Serbia and the second half in the 2-2 draw with England caused controversy and confusion in the Italian media.
In his first start of the competition this evening, he scored for the 3-1 win over the Czech Republic and was voted Man of the Match by UEFA.
Despite the result, Italy still go out at the first hurdle thanks to England’s controversial 2-0 victory over the already qualified Serbia.
“Clearly this is not enough, as we thought – and I still think – we deserved to go further,” added Zola.
“Unfortunately we are paying the price for mistakes above all in the first game, which looking carefully we did not deserve to lose. We didn’t do enough against Serbia in terms of finishing.
“These things can happen and the lads can be proud they gave their all with more or less everyone playing their part.”
It’s not all over yet, as Italy face a play-off with Portugal on Thursday for a place in the 2008 Olympics.
This is because England can only compete as part of Great Britain, so their presence in the top four leaves a space open.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun17r.html
There are idiots who do these things, but you seem to imply that all the fans in the balkans are like this. I was at the 2006 world cup when Serbia played against the Ivory Coast, some fans started to make racist sounds, but immediately the majority of the fans(including me) told them to shut the feck up, and they stopped. There are alot of black basketball players that play in the adriatic basketball league, the ex-yugo countries play in the same league. I have never heard any racist things against them during the games.
What, monkey chanting by a large section of a crowd during a professional football match?
No, not since the early nineties when footballing society decide it had to become more civilised.
Yes you were wrong, he really is special.
Fair point, what do you think was different about today?
How the feck would I know. I wasn't there.
If the people in the balkans really are as racist as you're saying, there wouldn't be so many black players in the adriatic basketball league.
For that decision, Mr Zola, your team deserves to get knocked out...
It seems like Sinisa doesn't like the English.
“Besides, it’s very clear to everyone, we really don’t like the English. They get on our nerves for a whole series of reasons…”
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun17g.html
“Besides, it’s very clear to everyone, we really don’t like the English. They get on our nerves for a whole series of reasons…”
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun17g.html
Enough already. Come on, stop it. You've gone over 1000 posts in 1 month by writing stupid posts...
It looks like Bamsola is running out of accusations against serbs.
Firstly I didn't say that everybody in the Balkans was racist as I haven't met all of them I couldn't possibly make that kind of judgement. What I did say is that society as a whole out there is behind the times in it tolerance of racism and that spills over into football. That what I meant when I said that they are behind the times.
As for your assertion that having black players in the adriatic basketball league means there isn't a problem thats just laughable. The NBA is made up of mainly black players, why should the adriatic basketball league be any different.
Going to a sports event to cheer black players isn't a sign of any anti-racist attitude, people have a tendancy to pick atheletes based on aptitude rather than personal respect, i'm willing to bet that those black players had to be very special to even be considered for that league.
Not baseless accusation mate, I didn't fabricate the chanting at the U21 match today, even the stadium announcer had to get involved.
What I said was that these players are not reveiving any racist shouts while playing in the balkans.
We all know Pearce is an idiot but why did he drop Huddlestine for the past two games?
You are a fecking moron. Simple as that.
You can draw attention to basketball, but basketball is a different atmosphere which doesn't stir-up nearly as much passion as football and therefore it is more of a family atmosphere.
Football stirs up passion and attracts a more partisan crowd, that passion has a tendancy to bring out more of whats underlying.
PS: I can't address the rest of your comments because of the way you've quoted.
We were under an international embargo during the early 90s
Not sure what you mean.
Bollocks. One of the weakest arguments I've ever seen on redcafe, shame on you.
Take a look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1fzzLDFHH8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x-fWavz96c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn8hxmKCJ5c
You have probably never watched a basketball game in europe.
I was joking.
You said that we were after when it came to racial tolerance and things like that.
You said people changed in the early 90s, and i replied that we were cut off from the rest of the world in the early 90s during the embargo.
Oh. Well you never know that might be part of the problem.
No that would be you're argument that Mihaijlovic is a person who the world shouldn't despise.
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True and after that I have no futher desire to, but going back to the point why the chanting today and why Serbia?
Leroy Lita alleged Justin Hoyte was the victim of racist abuse following England Under 21s' tumultuous 2-0 win over Serbia.
Stuart Pearce's side reached the semi-finals of the European Under 21 Championship with the victory in Nijmegen, but the headlines are likely to be dominated by events off the field.
The announcer in Nijmegen had to appeal to Serbia fans to stop levelling racist abuse at Nedum Onuoha in the first half, and both teams clashed in the tunnel after a controversial second goal from Matt Derbyshire.
Uefa could well act after receiving their delegate's report of the game, and Lita has given them further food for thought by claiming that Arsenal defender Hoyte was the subject of racist abuse in the tunnel.
"Yeah there was [something racial said in the tunnel], to Justin, so he wasn't very happy and Justin is a quiet lad," Lita told Sky Sports after the final whistle.
"There is no need for that, we are here playing in the tournament, everyone just wants to enjoy themselves and there is no need for that.
"But we will forget about it, we are through and we will think about Wednesday.
"We can't worry about things like that. We knew they were going to do something in the end, so it was a bit unfortunate that we got into that but the lads reacted well.
"Justin took a lot of stick and he is not very happy but as I said to him we can't worry about things like that, you just move on."
Manchester City defender Onuoha also stated that he was aware of racist abuse spilling from the stands in Nijmegen.
"I was [aware of it] but it didn't stop me playing the game, I think Uefa will deal with it and I will just carry on," said Onuoha.
"I've had it before in the past, I suppose the world is a changing place, maybe it will eventually stop, but until then we just have to deal with it."
A Uefa spokesman added: "We will be waiting to receive the delegate's report before instigating any disciplinary proceedings.
"Uefa condemn all types of discrimination and have a series of disciplinary measures which can be imposed to help combat such unacceptable behaviour."
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=472383&CPID=445&clid=114&lid=2&title=LITA:+HOYTE+'RACIALLY+ABUSED'&channel=football_home&
Stuart Pearce's side reached the semi-finals of the European Under 21 Championship with the victory in Nijmegen, but the headlines are likely to be dominated by events off the field.
The announcer in Nijmegen had to appeal to Serbia fans to stop levelling racist abuse at Nedum Onuoha in the first half, and both teams clashed in the tunnel after a controversial second goal from Matt Derbyshire.
Uefa could well act after receiving their delegate's report of the game, and Lita has given them further food for thought by claiming that Arsenal defender Hoyte was the subject of racist abuse in the tunnel.
"Yeah there was [something racial said in the tunnel], to Justin, so he wasn't very happy and Justin is a quiet lad," Lita told Sky Sports after the final whistle.
"There is no need for that, we are here playing in the tournament, everyone just wants to enjoy themselves and there is no need for that.
"But we will forget about it, we are through and we will think about Wednesday.
"We can't worry about things like that. We knew they were going to do something in the end, so it was a bit unfortunate that we got into that but the lads reacted well.
"Justin took a lot of stick and he is not very happy but as I said to him we can't worry about things like that, you just move on."
Manchester City defender Onuoha also stated that he was aware of racist abuse spilling from the stands in Nijmegen.
"I was [aware of it] but it didn't stop me playing the game, I think Uefa will deal with it and I will just carry on," said Onuoha.
"I've had it before in the past, I suppose the world is a changing place, maybe it will eventually stop, but until then we just have to deal with it."
A Uefa spokesman added: "We will be waiting to receive the delegate's report before instigating any disciplinary proceedings.
"Uefa condemn all types of discrimination and have a series of disciplinary measures which can be imposed to help combat such unacceptable behaviour."
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=472383&CPID=445&clid=114&lid=2&title=LITA:+HOYTE+'RACIALLY+ABUSED'&channel=football_home&
True and after that I have no futher desire to, but going back to the point why the chanting today and why Serbia?[/QUOTE]
Why wouldn't you want to go to a basketball game after that?
I've already answered these questions.
You've made your point Bamsola.
There is no need for you to continue to make accusations against serbs.
There is no need for you to continue to make accusations against serbs.
Zola is a twat for not letting Rossi play
Once again my accusation was against Serbian society and Sinisa, not all serbs.
Whatever
Btw, in serbian news I'm reading that this fight in the tunnel and the racist remarks in the tunnel is bollocks made up by the english media(the only ones to report this) to cover up for what Derbyshire did.
It comes as such a supprise to me that they would say that.
PS: the fight in the tunnel was clearly shown after the match.
It comes as such a supprise to me that they would say that.
It's interesting that only english media is reporting this. No dutch media, or italian have heard about racist remarks in the tunnels.
And we all know how much of what english media says is true.
So true.
They we're right about the chanting because even the stadium announcer got involved, they we're right to report a fight because you could see action in the tunnel from TV footage and they we're right to report the allegation which was made by Leroy lita during an interview.
If the others chose not to report it then maybe they don't see it as a priority which is a shame but that doesn't mean none of it happened.
This racism thing is probably overblown, the serbian players were pissed because of the Derbyshire goal, that's why there was a fight in the tunnel.
A serbian player in the belgian leauge(I think) said "feck Off" to a black player during a game, later he reported him and he was suspended 3 games for being a racist.
A serbian player in the belgian leauge(I think) said "feck Off" to a black player during a game, later he reported him and he was suspended 3 games for being a racist.
Post a link to that story or come across as a idiot fabricating stories those are your two choices.
I got this story about the serbian player who was suspended from the user Mihajlovic in the thread about Mihajlovic. He named both players, and in which clubs they played. If that thread hasn't been deleted by the mods you should be able to find it there.
And I'm reading interviews of the serbian players, and they said that they were pissed because of the second goal.
EDIT: It was Nenad Jestrovic, who said feck off to Sissoko when Anderlecht played Liverpool. He received a 2 match ban from Uefa.
I finally found a link in english http://www.football.co.uk/liverpool/jestrovic_denies_sissoko_abuse_207661.shtml
I almost forgot that I have to go to bed.
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Thats one side of the story told from one perspective, that of Jestrovic. You might say that Sissoko could be lying which is possible but the linesman i'm assuming wasn't black and therefore had no reason to fabricate a story where none existed.
The player must have been sent off for something and if it was racist language I would doubt whether he would be man enougth to admit it. It does also beg the question however of why it's again a Serbian player, surely there cannot be smoke without fire.
Why is this argument still going on?