When you consider his age and price, I'm not to sure he'd be ideal anyway. And we aren't after him, so it's a non starter really.
Top draw player though, will do well wherever he goes.
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When you consider his age and price, I'm not to sure he'd be ideal anyway. And we aren't after him, so it's a non starter really.
Top draw player though, will do well wherever he goes.
Barcelona seems the obvious place. Especially if Eto'o leaves.
i'm going to refrain from populating this thread with zlatan youtube videos.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article4144501.ece
Anywhere but Liverpool, just anywhere!
I'm convinced Berbatov would be a hit if he joined us. In his two seasons at Spurs he's displayed all the qualities required to do a very good job for a team like United.
He's comfortable with his back to goal, and his ability to hold up the ball and link up with other players (most notably Keane at Spurs) is fantastic. He can score a variety of goals, is a composed finisher and offers more of an aerial threat than any of the strikers we currently have on our books. He also has exceptional touch and control and has that rare quality of making everything seem effortless. Very elegant player. And although he isn't the quickest, he's not exactly a slouch (see this goal if you need to refresh your memory).
At United he'd absolutely thrive on the intelligent movement of the likes of Rooney, Tevez and co. I'm almost salivating at the prospect of his fancy little flicks falling into the path of our other attackers. He's a pretty mobile striker, so shouldn't affect the fluency that has become the trademark of our attacking play. If anything, he'd add to it.
He'd receive better service from the midfield and flanks at United too, and I wouldn't be suprised to see a significant increase in both his goal and assist tallies should he join. Okay, he has a questionable attitude but I don't think it'd be a problem.
Anyway, £25m + is obviously very expensive, especially considering he's 27, but I reckon he'd be a fantastic acquisition and would become the focal point of an already devastating attack, hopefully bringing out the best of Rooney along the way.
He's comfortable with his back to goal, and his ability to hold up the ball and link up with other players (most notably Keane at Spurs) is fantastic. He can score a variety of goals, is a composed finisher and offers more of an aerial threat than any of the strikers we currently have on our books. He also has exceptional touch and control and has that rare quality of making everything seem effortless. Very elegant player. And although he isn't the quickest, he's not exactly a slouch (see this goal if you need to refresh your memory).
At United he'd absolutely thrive on the intelligent movement of the likes of Rooney, Tevez and co. I'm almost salivating at the prospect of his fancy little flicks falling into the path of our other attackers. He's a pretty mobile striker, so shouldn't affect the fluency that has become the trademark of our attacking play. If anything, he'd add to it.
He'd receive better service from the midfield and flanks at United too, and I wouldn't be suprised to see a significant increase in both his goal and assist tallies should he join. Okay, he has a questionable attitude but I don't think it'd be a problem.
Anyway, £25m + is obviously very expensive, especially considering he's 27, but I reckon he'd be a fantastic acquisition and would become the focal point of an already devastating attack, hopefully bringing out the best of Rooney along the way.
I don't really care if he's 27, if he gets the job done and doesn't get injured than we have a way better striker than in Saha and that will suit me fine.
Arguing about if 25m is worth it for berbs is something you can argue all day, yes 27 means that he is old but I mean tranfers these days are out of the world. Yes, two season ago Berbs would be around the 15-18m but now I don't think that 25m is unrealistic.
Who is a better option for us at 25m right now ?? Villa ?? Zlatan ?? Eto'o ??
I'm just excited that Fergie actually knows that we're in need of a striker and I hope he surprises all the transfer muppets.
Arguing about if 25m is worth it for berbs is something you can argue all day, yes 27 means that he is old but I mean tranfers these days are out of the world. Yes, two season ago Berbs would be around the 15-18m but now I don't think that 25m is unrealistic.
Who is a better option for us at 25m right now ?? Villa ?? Zlatan ?? Eto'o ??
I'm just excited that Fergie actually knows that we're in need of a striker and I hope he surprises all the transfer muppets.
Zlatan is the only player I would take before Berbatov. But he isn't available for transfer as of now. In addition this talk about price is just silly. If Schevchenko and Zidane could go for up to 30 plus million pounds, when almost 30 years old. I fail to see why a player of Berbatov's caliber, at his peak and clearly the best player at Spurs shouldn't be valued close to 25 million.
Spot on. Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez will all go up another level if paired with a forward like Berbatov. Beuase he would add to the incredible space to wreck havoc that they already give themselves switch their talents. Honestly, if people think Ronaldo was amazing this past season. They have seem nothing yet. If he stays and we add Berbatov to Rooney and Tevez, Ronaldo will take end product to an unseen level.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=98512
yes its tribal, but feck it. supposedly spurs want 25 + foster for berbatov. feck off.
yes its tribal, but feck it. supposedly spurs want 25 + foster for berbatov. feck off.
There is no way in hell we will give them Foster or Kuszcsack in any deal for Berba
Zlatan is inconsistent and not a natural goal scorer.
Sheva's and Zidane's transfer fees did not reflected their market value. There again we are talking about two clubs where money is thrown away like thrash. We are not that kind of club.
No-one feels he will be a messiah. But do we really need a messiah? We are already the best team in Europe and Berbatov wants to come here, which I think makes a big difference. The likes of Villa, Benzema etc. would just want to come here for a good 3 or 4 years and then move on to their dream clubs. So really age wouldn't make that much of a difference. We will overpay for anyone we get, we always do. The player that we buy will pay it off with trophies though.
Ibrahimovic is actually on the market. There have been rumours for a while that Jose doesn't like his personality and his agent came out a few weeks ago and said Barcelona are injured. I would definitely prefer him over Berbatov because I do feel he is the better player and seeing as he is Scandinavian I would expect him to stay here for the rest of his career. However, it seems lie he's set on Barca. A swap between him and Eto'o seems likely.
In the last 2 seasons Berbatov has scored or assisted 76 goals (23 goals and 15 assists each season).
It's going to take a truly excellent offer to persuade Spurs to let him go: not simply 'the going rate' (whatever you think this is), but an offer that is too good to refuse. Why? Because Spurs don't need to sell and don't want to sell - and because Levy is a hard-nosed bastard when it comes to such things.
Any CAFtards who imagine that 25m is going to suffice are simply wrong (in the case of him going to another Prem club). For those who say such price is too much, or that he's not worth it - that's fine, if Fergie agrees with you it will just mean you won't get him. Good luck in finding a better alternative.
I agree with you on Benzema but Villa would be 31 in 4 yrs time.
I see. I though he was only 25/26 now. So he's not that much younger than Berbatov. He could only stay for two years then and wait for Real to come calling and then he'd be on the plane to Madrid in no time.
You cannot generalise in that way my friend. Mcmanaman was a homegrown talent at Liverpool and yet, he walked away on them on free. Same thing can be said about Sol Campbell. On the other hand Cantona refused to go to Inter despite given him a much better contract then we did.
No one knows exactly how Berbatov or Ibra (expecially Ibra) would react if Real stepped in.
The defining factor is Berbatov wants to come here more than anywhere else. Benzema, Villa, Ibrahimovic have other preferred choices, all in Spain.
If you're going to talk bollocks like that in this thread no-one is going to reply to you. If Berbatov wants to leave and we offer £25m you have no idea how Levy will react. You aren't ITK.
He also said that he would love to go to AC Milan
Good to know. I'm sure he would. Doesn't change the fact his first choice is and will always be United, he has already said that he is impressed that SAF has followed him for so long and put so much effort into getting him. Why you are trying to think of a counterargument when there is no real one against buying Berbatov over the rest because of preference, I'll never know.
That's your opinion - it's not necessarily true. The Daily Mirror are reporting that Barca have just bid 25m for Berbatov. Spurs have been in extensive talks this summer with Barca leading to the dos Santos signing: I said at the time that I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to that deal - whose bargain price surprised many - than meets the eye.
It's true I'm not ITK, but then again neither are you.
There have been various public pronouncements from Ramos and others indicating that only an offer of more than 30m would suffice for Berba to leave for another Prem club, but less if he goes abroad. And various Spurs ITKs have since confirmed this stance.
I can't help it if you don't like it, but that's the reality.
Hopefully Barca gets him
Have he told you so?
There is a real argument in here because you dont know what are player's preferences and how they would act in different circumstances. I mean there are many arguments in favor of Berbatov. He is experienced, he is tall, he is EPL tested etc.Stating that loyalty is not one of them.
Dont forget that Berbatov did chose Tottenham over us once and he signed a new contract despite knowing that we where interested in him.
Oh I forgot the Daily Mirror was so well renowned for being reliable. It also reported last year we were close to signing Nicky Shorey, they are really ITK don't you think?
I don't act like I am though, which is why I never said how much he would cost, just that we don't know what Levy would do if Berbatov says "I'm leaving" and we bid £25m.
It's a tactic used by many managers, designed to ward off clubs like us from making a bid. That may be hard to understand for Spurs fans though seeing as they were a selling club up until 2 or 3 years ago.
Bulgaria striker Dimitar Berbatov says he turned down an offer from Manchester United to join Tottenham Hotspur after talking to manager Martin Jol.
The 25-year-old, who has agreed a four-year deal with the Premier League club subject to a work permit, is leaving Bayer Leverkusen for a fee of 16 million euros ($A27.07 million).
"I can reveal now that I had an offer from Manchester United and everyone knows what it means but after talking to Martin several times I decided to choose Spurs," he said.
"We (the player and his agent) went to see Tottenham's match against United last month and afterwards I met Martin. It was our first meeting but I realised that he's a very special man."
"I'm glad I'll have the chance to work with him ... many people have told me he is a brilliant manager."
The striker, handed the number nine shirt at White Hart Lane, also told a news conference he is keen to show that he is worth the money Spurs are paying for him.
"I'm looking forward to succeeding at Tottenham, which is a club everyone has spoken highly of," said Berbatov.
"The club made a great effort to sign me and I hope to return that effort playing for them. I've had the chance to see some Spurs matches and I really like their style of play. They are trying to play attractive football."
Berbatov, who has been on top form for Leverkusen in recent seasons and was second-top scorer in the Bundesliga last term, has become the most expensive Bulgarian player.
His national team mate Valeri Bozhinov joined Fiorentina from Lecce last year for a reported 13 million euros.
"I spent five unforgettable years in Leverkusen but I've got no doubts that joining Tottenham is a step ahead in my career," said Berbatov, who is due to link up with Spurs on July 1.
The three-times Bulgarian Footballer of the Year is confident Tottenham will soon be playing in the Champions League despite having to settle for a UEFA Cup place next season.
"I want to play in the Champions League and I'm sure I'll do it as a Spurs player," said Berbatov, who helped Leverkusen to the 2002 final a year after joining the club from CSKA Sofia.
Tottenham missed out on a place in the Champions League qualifying round after being pipped to fourth spot in the Premier League by Arsenal on the last day of the season.
"I watched their final game against West Ham and it was very emotional because I felt like a Spurs fan," said Berbatov, after a Tottenham squad hit by illness lost 2-1 at Upton Park.
Berbatov scored 69 goals in 154 matches in his five-year Bundesliga spell, having missed only two games in the last three seasons. He has also scored 31 goals in 50 full internationals.
He will become the third Bulgarian in the English Premier League, joining Charlton Athletic defender Radostin Kishishev and Portsmouth striker Svetoslav Todorov
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/uefacup/index.php?pid=st&cid=71012
The 25-year-old, who has agreed a four-year deal with the Premier League club subject to a work permit, is leaving Bayer Leverkusen for a fee of 16 million euros ($A27.07 million).
"I can reveal now that I had an offer from Manchester United and everyone knows what it means but after talking to Martin several times I decided to choose Spurs," he said.
"We (the player and his agent) went to see Tottenham's match against United last month and afterwards I met Martin. It was our first meeting but I realised that he's a very special man."
"I'm glad I'll have the chance to work with him ... many people have told me he is a brilliant manager."
The striker, handed the number nine shirt at White Hart Lane, also told a news conference he is keen to show that he is worth the money Spurs are paying for him.
"I'm looking forward to succeeding at Tottenham, which is a club everyone has spoken highly of," said Berbatov.
"The club made a great effort to sign me and I hope to return that effort playing for them. I've had the chance to see some Spurs matches and I really like their style of play. They are trying to play attractive football."
Berbatov, who has been on top form for Leverkusen in recent seasons and was second-top scorer in the Bundesliga last term, has become the most expensive Bulgarian player.
His national team mate Valeri Bozhinov joined Fiorentina from Lecce last year for a reported 13 million euros.
"I spent five unforgettable years in Leverkusen but I've got no doubts that joining Tottenham is a step ahead in my career," said Berbatov, who is due to link up with Spurs on July 1.
The three-times Bulgarian Footballer of the Year is confident Tottenham will soon be playing in the Champions League despite having to settle for a UEFA Cup place next season.
"I want to play in the Champions League and I'm sure I'll do it as a Spurs player," said Berbatov, who helped Leverkusen to the 2002 final a year after joining the club from CSKA Sofia.
Tottenham missed out on a place in the Champions League qualifying round after being pipped to fourth spot in the Premier League by Arsenal on the last day of the season.
"I watched their final game against West Ham and it was very emotional because I felt like a Spurs fan," said Berbatov, after a Tottenham squad hit by illness lost 2-1 at Upton Park.
Berbatov scored 69 goals in 154 matches in his five-year Bundesliga spell, having missed only two games in the last three seasons. He has also scored 31 goals in 50 full internationals.
He will become the third Bulgarian in the English Premier League, joining Charlton Athletic defender Radostin Kishishev and Portsmouth striker Svetoslav Todorov
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/uefacup/index.php?pid=st&cid=71012
Actually read what I say here, I said it in my last post too.
He said to the media that he was impressed at how hard SAF has worked to try and get him, and there have been plenty of indications that he prefers here over everywhere else. He can't say that though or we will be his only option, and Spurs may not sell to us. Berbatov chose spurs over us because he was guaranteed first team football. And he didn't sign a new contract because he was committed to Spurs, he was just happy to make some extra money for a year or so because Spurs would not sell last summer.
Why? He chose Spurs over us because he knew he could get games there, he even used the word 'step' as in it was his next step and not his final club. Those quotes did not back up your argument.
I didn't say the Mirror were reliable. It's simply an illustration that there are several possible destinations for Berbatov this summer besides MUFC and Berbatov himself has never indicated that he favours a move to to your club above all others.
It's also the case that he isn't necessarily going anywhere.
In fact we're more widely regarded as a buying club. Selling a single player to MUFC (Carrick) does not make us a selling club any more than MUFC will become a selling club if Ronaldo goes to Real Madrid.
I know that. He has. You are well known around here for being ignorant and you continue to be so.
That's now. I said a few years back.
So what? You are blaming other players on running away once Real would want them when you have no proof that they will do that. Meanwhile you are putting forward Berbatov a player whom unlike Villa he had already preferred others to us. BTW Berbatov had not turned us down for Real or Barca but he had turned us down for a third rated team who wouldnt win the league even if their life depended on it.
You fail to understand logic. Villa has said plenty of times he prefers Real Madrid. Berbatov prefers United. And Benzema prefers Spain in general.
I said before that Berbatov prefers United and he is the only player we are looking at who does so. Therefore in terms of preference he is our best choice, which is what i said from the start. Accept that and move on rather than making an argument over nothing.
Villa has said (words) what Bebatov DID (action). Whats is the worst between the two? Just ask a judge.
He has what?
Dear oh dear.
It was me who said that Berbatov would not be sold last summer - and again in January - despite all of the confident predictions on here to the contrary. I was right.
Courtesy of various Spurs ITKs I know a lot more about Berbatov and the background situation than you do. So if it's a question of trusting your judgement re. what will happen I'll pass on that option thanks very much.
We had Van Nistelrooy and Rooney. He wouldn't have started. Learn how to read carefully.
Get over yourself. You said that out of hope, but you seem to think that makes you more knowledgeable than everyone else here.
You said that out of hope, but you seem to think that makes you more knowledgeable than everyone else here.
Oh FFS, Glaston must know something more that you about Spurs, don't you think?
Spaniards think he's off to Milan for about 20M euros.
And now there are Tevez and Rooney. So what?
As I told you, you are critising players on what Berbatov DID.
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