I hope Fergie gives them something to think about for the second half. Its been very flat and lethargic from most of our players. We need to get over this blip quickly because it could cost us. Im looking for much improvement from on and we better ensure we win this game.
Manchester United vs FC Porto
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Park's been poor, and i'd rather we have a genuine winger out wide. Plus he should be up for it considering he's a portugeezer.
I disagree. We've been that awful. They managed 3 shots in the first 6 minutes scoring from one....
Getting Macheda in will improve our passing?? Very strange knee jerk there!
United fans know that keep believing in our team always pays off! So there.. have some faith, we will win this one!
Who knows ? Using his pace he might have been in position to put pressure on Rodriguez, or maybe even get the ball, it certainly would have helped.
I don't think he was blaming Ronaldo for the goal, it was a comment based on the fact that Ronaldo didn't react the way someone like Rooney would. It was there for everyone to see. He just stopped. He may not run back to make the tackle, but running back means you're in a defensive position should your services be required.
He wasn't however at fault for the goal
the swarming defense by porto is causing trouble. we get the ball, they're on us. they get the ball and we back up. we need to pressure the ball more and cause them to turn it over.
True that. Normally our centre midfield is so quick to close down, but Scholes and Carrick are getting nowhere near the Porto midfield. Fletch has been great but has spent most of the half on the right hand side.
agree. worse i've seen in a while. Only VDS, Rooney and Fletch up for it. And someone tell Ronaldo football is a contact sport. And why does he think he's now exempt from tackling back? Maddening ! Wake up guys !
Thats exactly what i'd do. Except probably not Nani on the right, their left back has been excellent and Oshea not so good. And yes Rooney could do with some support.
Usually Park is one of the players i always think is up for it but the opening 45 he looked really out of it... I would like to see Kiko on but i am more worried about our shape, we started with a 433 and that didnt work so we went 442 but the personal we had out doesnt play 442 well.
That's about 6 games since we have lost the plot and do not look like regaining it any moment.... i seriously can't understand what's gone wrong,surely it can't be a lack of confidence or belief.... Comeonnn United !!!!!
Bollocks he isn't.
It's alright, it's the in thing to shaft park for any shortcomings that Scholes, Carrick, O Shea, Evra and Evans may have had tonight.
On a side note I'm quite impressed at Sheasy's foward play tonight. It's good that the lads know that they can always pass it outside on the right because John's going to be there.
Now if only he could cut the errors out, although why should he when theyre so popular with the rest of the team.
Hairdryer will get us sorted, we will win this comfortably, 3-1
But we have to stop fecking around and get some form back pronto for the league.
But we have to stop fecking around and get some form back pronto for the league.
SAF will sort them out ....come on Boys we need two more, and more importantly we need our 'Mojo' back Fecking sharpish before Sunderland!
Fletcher is having a fine game but he can't do it on his own.
Scholes and Carrick are having bad games, and when your two crucial midfielders are off the pace it affects the whole team.
the first half stats would make terrible reading
What game are you watching Brwned? We've been terrible, absolutely terrible.
Credit to Porto for getting their tactics spot and and being first to every single ball.
Credit to Porto for getting their tactics spot and and being first to every single ball.
I just think its mental tiredness
Second half about to start, hopefully the real Manchester United shows up
Well I hope that was just the case, but I thought he was implying that Ronnie was at fault, with his comment that "we saw at the weekend against Villa, where he gave the ball away and didnt defend when Villa scored" or something to that effect. Certainly, I think the ABUs watching will view it that way.
Come on United!
Fergie agrees, they've pressed very well.
Fergie agrees, they've pressed very well.
Different sort of players refering to technical ability and style but tracking back is an "attitude" you fecking pleb so dont go telling me to "deal with it"
If you're content with a bad attitude then go and fecking support another team ye bollox
SAF says we were nervous.
It has to be the pressure. They are just mentally tired. I know they are professionals,etc, but they have to perform at 100% or more each game. They are not robots, so a slump like this is inevitable. No idea what can help turn it around. Down to SAF and co. to sort them out.
feck me half time goes quick when you spend it chatting on RedCafe 
Agree 100%
it's been about that long ago that teams have decided to attack United and take their chances.
FFS, he then went on to comment on how we weren't bothered to run back and the ones in blue did and all you could see was more and more red shirts to the point you had the original 3 on 3 plus 4 reds and no new blues on the fecking screen.
Twat.
Yep, exactly.
Although I think everyone's being harsh on Scholesy. He's given the ball away stupidly quite a few times, but he's been one of the few players to show any sort of desire to take the game into his own hands, he shown he was ready to step up to the plate and start to control the game for a period.
We remind me of an FM team that is about to have the game crack it's formation that was previously working really well. We're suddenly just not as effective anymore
The tendency to play like that started with Inter at OT. Most fans tried to explain it with the individual performances of this ot that player (Scholes, Berbatov, Vida, Carrick, Tevez etc.) but IMO the truth is that the whole team is going through a crisis. Hopefully, we will overcome it sooner than later.
Fernando keeping Ronaldo in his pocket at the moment.
Getting better...
Well he's misplaced passes more than given it away in the middle - I mean you don't want either but a misplaced forwards pass generally doesn't have as catastrophic potential.
Better closing down from us in this half
You've misunderstood my point. I'm talking about the attitude of getting back and running your fecking gut off - not that he is to blame. I cannot justify someone picking and choosing when they dig out whether it's in football, a building site, working in a pub......whatever. It's an attitude thing
Agreed, there's been spells today that are far worse than anything we produced against Liverpool, Fulham or Villa. I'd really hoped the win against Villa
might have rejuvenated the team a bit, but we still look clueless. It's impossible to think this is the same team that went so many games without even looking like conceding, and now we're defensively shambolic...
O'shea in acres of space
You mean we've been playing for three minutes and none of you pricks told me?