Myth.
Players you don't get how they're rated as highly as they are
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Myth.
See when you look at this post, and realised you said it...Do you not just feel like a spastic?
is it?
Very true.
You sure?
Oh I forgot this name.... Quaresma.
I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree, IMHO he doesnt drop nearly as deep as Scholes does - Scholes now adays seems to play in the position of DMF's so he can spray the passes around - apart from today when we saw him with the late runs into the box
No. Because it emphasizes my point. That is why I used verbal irony. Which you've proven too dim to understand.......
hmmmmmm ppl on here are more inclined to putting players down rather than appreciate their talent!
Yes but they are not the world beaters that some claim. Stephen Ireland is a good player I agree, but nothing more than that. Sneijder is overrated imo.
He may be a bit behind it now but in his day Gazza was class. He is one of the easier choices in a Premiership all time XI. So to use the number of England caps he has is ridiculous, its almost like saying Charlton has a ridiculous number of England caps as he is now shit.Gary Neville
a journeyman pro somehow elevated to iconic status due to the club he plays at
Would'nt look out of place playing full back at Crewe
Think on this - the Nevilles have nearly 150 England caps between them
shocking
Adebayor is class. I'm surprised that anyone thinks otherwise. I guarantee that if he played for United those same people would be saying that he is class.
Agreed. Before he got his injury just over two years he had been very influential. That season him and Evra overlapping the wide players was a joy to watch. very good player.
I reckon if theres an English full back who is overrated its Ashley Cole.
You're so childish. Grow up.
Adebayor is quality. Some might disagree, but I think he is better than Torres and even Drogba these days.
I can't believe this thread has been allowed to go on with no mention of Frank Lampard.
not really.
Probably because there's an easy explaination as to why Lampard is rated as highly as he is.
Goals from midfield.
Fabio Cannavaro - A colossus at the 2006 World Cup but for him to be remembered as a better defender than Alessandro Nesta which I assume will be the case after they both retire is just wrong.
Roberto Ayala - Came 16th in FourFourTwo magazines 100 greatest players of 2007. The second highest ranked central defender. Madness.
Jermain Defoe - meh.
Roberto Ayala - Came 16th in FourFourTwo magazines 100 greatest players of 2007. The second highest ranked central defender. Madness.
Jermain Defoe - meh.
Ayala was a fortress. Also had the hugest leap I've ever seen from a footballer. He wasn't 6 feet tall but when he jumped he probably reached 7 feet. Ridiculous in the air.
Ayala may no longer be the presence he was but was one hell of a defender a few years ago.
As well as a quick brain, impressive vision and the fact that he's one of the most reliable players in the league, he rarely lets you down and he rarely misses a game.
Lampard is a top midfielder obviously, however there was no way he deserved second place at the world player of the year awards the way he did a few years ago.
Everybody thinks he is so overrated that he is underrated in reality. One of the best midfielders in the world. I'd rather have him than that diving wanker stevie me.
Plus he gets better every year.
Michael Owen.
Aye, no doubt.
Pretty much, although he was pretty fecking impressive in 05/06(iirc) I thought.
I think he's been even better this year, and in a team like Barcelona I think his footballing brain and eye for a pass would be much easier for everyone to see.
When Deco and Anelka were in a bit of form Lampard was immense, the team played with a lot more flair and he excelled.
Indeed. Probably had a blip the season after the World Cup, but he is even better now. Every time Chelsea sign a midfield superstar, everybody thinks Lampard will be dropped, but it doesn't happen. Funny how everybody thought Lampard will be shown up by a technically much superior Deco only for Deco to flop miserably. Same thing happened when they signed Ballack.
If Iniesta was a deadly finisher, hed be one of the best footballers on the planet.
Never been a fan of Lampard and a few years back i was always questioning what people saw in him but these past few years i think hes a quality player and derves the praise he gets
This thread should be renamed to "Players who you don't like" as it seems like that is what this thread has become.
Actually was £3 mill, can't find you link now but when he signed his contract extension a couple years back it came out he had signed for £3mill. From what I remember he had throw a wobbly while at Monaco so we picked him on the cheap.
Actually was £3 mill, can't find you link now but when he signed his contract extension a couple years back it came out he had signed for £3mill. From what I remember he had throw a wobbly while at Monaco so we picked him on the cheap.
Heinze. A pub team player.
Not really being fair on pub teams now are you?
So what your saying is Fabregas is a great defensive midfielder because when he goes forward Arsenal can't defend?
Flamini was great cover. Denilson and Song are both developing slower (and are still younger then flamini, and flamini wasn't great 2 years ago). Song pretty much needs to be behind the ball as much as possible.
to say he is over rated, when you can look at his assists simply since coming back from a big layoff is rubbish. You say he was great in the Euros and you say he is over rated?
Your simply indicating that the rest of the Arsenal team is not good enough, thats what your saying. Not that Fabregas is over rated.
I disagree.
wow really? I have never understood that point of view. Granted as United fans we are obligated to hate Liverpool players but surely you can appreciate that Gerrard is a fantastic player. The outstanding contender for player of the season in my opinion.
I was saying that Fabregas doesnt play in a defensive position for Asnl and does his passing from the back (ala Carrick or a Scholes now) but rather plays more up the pitch. I never once said he was overrated and you should read all the posts i made when discussing with Bwned about how hes a great talent but no where near a Xavi or Scholes in their prime - because these two could play anywhere in midfield and still do the job well (put either as a DMF and they can still grab hold of the game and dictate the play, play them as a playmaker and they will grab some goals and assists), Fabregas for all his good doesnt have the same impact on a game (when hes playing a deeper role) that he does when he playing in more advance positions.
My arguement was saying that people are wrong comparing Fabregas to the likes of Xavi or Scholes and saying hes way better then them, i didnt call him overrated once and in a few of my posts i actually said he has the potential to be better
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