Anderson

[Cina]

Considering all he has had is a game or 2 all season. Then he's impressed a lot, in comparison to Carrick who has had the odd great game but been invisible for the majority. It's about time we gave Anderson a run agains't lesser taems. Especially considering Carrick can't be arsed against them.

He's made 20 appearances (3 as a sub) this season, so get yours facts straight. Carrick has only made 27 (and 9 of those were as a sub), hardly a lot more. Carrick had a poor run of form for a while, but he's been good lately and was our best midfielder on the pitch today.

It's so fecking retarded to suggest that Anderson is even remotely near Carricks level yet.

 

[Ekeke]

All 3 were poor, but Anderson's immature misuse of the ball was the most annoying and least constructive to the purpose of us getting a result today. He needs to just keep things simple with his passing or not start.

 

[Cina]

All the midfield were shocking today in fairness, which considering they were in their prefered 3 man unit was surprising, my point is more on the basis Carricks been an ever present all season and simply done nothing of note bar look average (and side pass the ball 5 yards and have a nice pretty looking pass succes rate on the stats machine)....as for effecitvness hes been a passenger for the majority.....Anderson hasnt been given the chances this season and thats what he needs, a run of games and a consistent competent midfield partner, Carricks had that all season and still looked average nine times out of ten, Anderson will be a far better player than Carrick is now in a few years so why not aid that development with a run of games....

Read my above post, he's had 2 less first team starts than Carrick this season, how is that not a good run of games for a 20/21 year old exactly? It's bullshit to suggest he hasn't been given any chances this season, he's had more than any of our other youth players, bar maybe Nani.

One things for sure Carricks on burrowed time if he dosnt pick his game up, he was shocking again tonight...as was Fletch for the majority unfortunatly unlike him.

Borrowed time? He had 3 excellent seasons with us and because he hasn't been at the same level this year, a year plagued by injury problems, you're saying he's on borrowed time? Your logic baffles me.

 

[johnmufc]

He's made 20 appearances (3 as a sub) this season, so get yours facts straight. Carrick has only made 27 (and 9 of those were as a sub), hardly a lot more. Carrick had a poor run of form for a while, but he's been good lately and was our best midfielder on the pitch today.

It's so fecking retarded to suggest that Anderson is even remotely near Carricks level yet.

Anderson runs around a lot though, and he has a cute chubby face - therefore he's the superior player.

But honestly, Carrick will never receive the credit he deserves though, it's a sad fact of life.

 

[Gambit]

Can a good young central midfielder not be a squad player or something? You just had to look at his performances in the big matches after he got going in the middle to know that he had the right stuff. He didnt have great consistancy as he wouldnt always have a good match against the lesser sides and he was obviously a less complete player back then, but he was clearly a good young central midfielder.

It took a long time and many, many fantastic performances (almost all of them in big matches) to change the opinion of the majority, that he wasnt very good at all, based on a judgement of him playing on the right of midfield where he was pants at the time. In my opinion it took most people too long to cotton on. But I guess he did make a poor first impression with his time on the right of midfield.

I agree, it did take too many people too long to cotton on what a good player he was. Once he got his consistency right. Anderson has plenty of time to emulate that and as far as I'm concerned has more to offer. Fletcher always did play better in the middle, but he did also have plenty of games where he was dross there as well. It was a consistency thing. Now we are acting as though Anderson isn't allowed the same time, or a run of games to develop. He has one offish game and is considered horrendous and not good enough, yet everyone forgets that part of the reason we dominated the game was partially due to him trying to be everywhere on the pitch. In the first half when we had possession he was there up front, when we didn't he was back helping out Evra or trying to stifle City's play. Yet everyone complains because he couldn't get a few long balls to our forwards. Guess what, we've been struggling to do that all season. It's all ok though too praise Carrick as our best midfielder, when he couldn't be arsed to chase Tevez, or pass the ball to Owen at least once. Still Carrick did pass the Ball to Rooney a few times. Must mean he was our best Midfielder then tonight.

 

[adexkola]

It's difficult to give Carrick his fair dues when you have people (in general) overrating and whitewashing his performances. He just came out of a horrendous spell of games. His most consistent season was 06-07, and he still has question marks over his ability to shine in the big games. These are valid criticisms.

 

[Allforone]

He's made 20 appearances (3 as a sub) this season, so get yours facts straight. Carrick has only made 27 (and 9 of those were as a sub), hardly a lot more. Carrick had a poor run of form for a while, but he's been good lately and was our best midfielder on the pitch today.

It's so fecking retarded to suggest that Anderson is even remotely near Carricks level yet.

Extremely misleading…..how many run of matches has Anderson had? or put simpler how many games has he started in a row alongside a competent first choice partner? most of Andersons games come sporadically, the odd cup match here the odd league game there maybe a champions league match and then the midfields rotated the very next match and hes out again.....unlike Carrick whos given game after game after game and what does he really do? hes at best solid, makes the odd penetrative pass (although even those are few and far between these days) and generally does little else but give the simple balls to the better players to go do their thing....At least Anderson shows some positive intent when hes in the team, he trys to make things happen and hence makes more mistakes which is entirely logical, plus given his age to be expected...but its the positive aspect of his game the vision that makes him far more likely to produce a killer pass than Carrick who far to often takes the easy option and lets others do the work….anyone with any understanding of the game and young midfield players especially will tell you the talents there with Anderson, the potential quality is huge far greater than Carrick of today hence why its worth giving him a run and aiding his development…

Carricks not going to improve….hes had a good long run, he was a good signing and this season has after a truly woeful start been steady/average, but that’s really not good enough and its time to give a potentially far greater talent his chance.

 

[johnmufc]

It's difficult to give Carrick his fair dues when you have people (in general) overrating and whitewashing his performances. He just came out of a horrendous spell of games. His most consistent season was 06-07, and he still has question marks over his ability to shine in the big games. These are valid criticisms.

Is stating that Anderson has made very little progress (if any at all) since his first season at the club a valid criticism?

 

[Gambit]

Anderson runs around a lot though, and he has a cute chubby face - therefore he's the superior player.

But honestly, Carrick will never receive the credit he deserves though, it's a sad fact of life.

The last 2 seasons Carrick was immense, he just doesn't seem to be as arsed this season. When Carrick has an invisble game for us, it's ok.Yet when Anderson plays a blinder, but messes up a few "hollywood " balls, it's time to write him off.

 

[Gambit]

Is stating that Anderson has made very little progress (if any at all) since his first season at the club a valid criticism?

Isn't stating that Carrick has made very little progess ( if any at all) since his first season at the club a valid criticism? Is stating that he's not going to improve and therefore it's time to give the younger generation a chance of a run of games a valid criticism?

 

[Allforone]

It's difficult to give Carrick his fair dues when you have people (in general) overrating and whitewashing his performances. He just came out of a horrendous spell of games. His most consistent season was 06-07, and he still has question marks over his ability to shine in the big games. These are valid criticisms.

See i think thats extacly right, far to many on here (one in particular on this thread right now) totaly exagerates anything Carrick does to the point where even in matches hes done very little hes supposedly one of our best players etc etc...thats the problem, whether its these people are happy with the average run of the mill performance these days i dont know maybe thats the case but this season hes left so much to be desired its terrible really.....tonight again he was invisible after the first 15-20 mintes and as the most experianced of our central midfield trio thats criminal, hes supposed to be the stand out player the leader of that midfield, Carrick hasnt dominated a midfield in a very long time, thats the sad truth of the matter....and his form this season dosnt warrent him a place in the side anymore than the other midfielders we have.

 

[Cina]

Firstly, have you ever heard of paragraphs and full stops? Christ.

Extremely misleading…..how many run of matches has Anderson had? or put simpler how many games has he started in a row alongside a competent first choice partner?

Oh please, it's not misleading, you could say the same thing about Carrick. Don't try twist it. Anderson has been rubbish anytime he's played with one other person in CM, he's not able to do it right now, hence why Ferguson only plays him in 3 man midfields[/QUOTE]

most of Andersons games come sporadically, the odd cup match here the odd league game there maybe a champions league match and then the midfields rotated the very next match and hes out again.....unlike Carrick whos give game after game after game and what does he really do?

...but he's started 2 more games than Anderson, so explain to me how that means Carrick has gotten game after game and Anderson hasn't? And don't give me any of that 'misleading' bullshit, show me facts. Carrick has in no way played on a more consistent basis than Anderson this season. Our own CM to have done so is Fletcher, before he got injured.

hes at best solid, makes the odd penetrative pass (although even those are few and far between these days) and generally does little else but give the simple balls to the better players to go do their thing....At least Anderson shows some positive intent when hes in the team, he trys to make things happen and hence makes more mistakes which is entirely logical, plus given his age to be expected...but its the positive aspect of his game the vision that makes him far more likely to produce a killer pass than Carrick who far to often takes the easy option and lets others do the work….

Such a silly consensus of Carrick, it really is. Anderson couldn't even get a straightforward pass right today, let alone a penetrative one, and he's barely got a penetrative one right all season.

anyone with any understanding of the game and young midfield players especially will tell you the talents there with Anderson, the potential quality is huge far greater than Carrick of today hence why its worth giving him a run and aiding his development…

I never said the talent wasn't there, it is, but it's being overblown, and the lad has been very poor this season, so to suggest that he should get a regular run in the team (which he kinda already has been getting) ahead of a well established regular who is starting to show his old form now he's recovered from injuries, is pure madness.

Carricks not going to improve….hes had a good long run, he was a good signing and this season has after a truly woeful start been steady/average, but that’s really not good enough and its time to give a potentially far great talent his chance.

Yeah you're right, Carrick is 28, I mean, he's done for isn't he? It's not like most CMs his their peak between the ages of 28 and 32 or anything, is it? Oh no wait...

feck this, you're either completely idiotic or a WUM, comparing Carrick with Anderson like you are, and suggesting Carrick has 'had a good run' and should be brushed to the side for Anderson is just madness. Get a grip lad.

 

[johnmufc]

The last 2 seasons Carrick was immense, he just doesn't seem to be as arsed this season. When Carrick has an invisble game for us, it's ok.Yet when Anderson plays a blinder, but messes up a few "hollywood " balls, it's time to write him off.

I seem to recall a lot of criticism on this site towards Carrick at the beginning of the season. Wrongly or rightly, Carrick receives a lot of abuse.

The reason Anderson is slated is because we all expected great things from him. Carrick was never brought in to be a world class player, Anderson was meant to develop into one. He's made very little progress since his first season, and that is worrying. The criticism at his inability to impress is justified, in my opinion.

Isn't stating that Carrick has made very little progess ( if any at all) since his first season at the club a valid criticism? Is stating that he's not going to improve and therefore it's time to give the younger generation a chance of a run of games a valid criticism?

Carrick is 28. Players generally stop progressing at this age..!
Giving younger players a chance is well and good, but these young players have to be ready and the player whom they replace has to be ready to be replaced! Anderson is not ready to step up! Carrick is not ready to step down!

 

[Cina]

See i think thats extacly right, far to many on here (one in particular on this thread right now) totaly exagerates anything Carrick does to the point where even in matches hes done very little hes supposedly one of our best players etc etc...thats the problem, whether its these people are happy with the average run of the mill performance these days i dont know maybe thats the case but this season hes left so much to be desired its terrible really.....tonight again he was invisible after the first 15-20 mintes and as the most experianced of our central midfield trio thats criminal, hes supposed to be the stand out player the leader of that midfield, Carrick hasnt dominated a midfield in a very long time, thats the sad truth of the matter....and his form this season dosnt warrent him a place in the side anymore than the other midfielders we have.

Is that aimed at me? I never said he was 'one of our best players'. I said he was better than Fletcher and Anderson.

 

[Allforone]

Firstly, have you ever heard of paragraphs and full stops? Christ.



Oh please, it's not misleading, you could say the same thing about Carrick. Don't try twist it. Anderson has been rubbish anytime he's played with one other person in CM, he's not able to do it right now, hence why Ferguson only plays him in 3 man midfields

...but he's started 2 more games than Anderson, so explain to me how that means Carrick has gotten game after game and Anderson hasn't? And don't give me any of that 'misleading' bullshit, show me facts. Carrick has in no way played on a more consistent basis than Anderson this season. Our own CM to have done so is Fletcher, before he got injured.



Such a silly consensus of Carrick, it really is. Anderson couldn't even get a straightforward pass right today, let alone a penetrative one, and he's barely got a penetrative one right all season.


I never said the talent wasn't there, it is, but it's being overblown, and the lad has been very poor this season, so to suggest that he should get a regular run in the team (which he kinda already has been getting) ahead of a well established regular who is starting to show his old form now he's recovered from injuries, is pure madness.



Yeah you're right, Carrick is 28, I mean, he's done for isn't he? It's not like most CMs his their peak between the ages of 28 and 32 or anything, is it? Oh no wait...

feck this, you're either completely idiotic or a WUM, comparing Carrick with Anderson like you are, and suggesting Carrick has 'had a good run' and should be brushed to the side for Anderson is just madness. Get a grip lad.

No you open your eyes and stop accepting mediocrity...the amount of shite you just spouted there is actually quite laughable....so much so your actually so idiotc i wont even dignify you with any furthers responses as its clear im dealing with a total waste of time.

 

[Gambit]

See i think thats extacly right, far to many on here (one in particular on this thread right now) totaly exagerates anything Carrick does to the point where even in matches hes done very little hes supposedly one of our best players etc etc...thats the problem, whether its these people are happy with the average run of the mill performance these days i dont know maybe thats the case but this season hes left so much to be desired its terrible really.....tonight again he was invisible after the first 15-20 mintes and as the most experianced of our central midfield trio thats criminal, hes supposed to be the stand out player the leader of that midfield, Carrick hasnt dominated a midfield in a very long time, thats the sad truth of the matter....and his form this season dosnt warrent him a place in the side anymore than the other midfielders we have.

Exactly! He has had some great seasons, but this year he's been no better than what we have. Considering we have players with potential and Carricks penchant for only turning up for the bigger games this season, surely we can afford to give Anderson a run of games. This lad has the potential to be best out of our current midfield crop.

 

[SharkyMcShark]

The last 2 seasons Carrick was immense, he just doesn't seem to be as arsed this season. When Carrick has an invisble game for us, it's ok.Yet when Anderson plays a blinder, but messes up a few "hollywood " balls, it's time to write him off.

Carrick has received a lot of unfair stick in these parts. He cops his fair share of criticism.

 

[Ekeke]

I agree, it did take too many people too long to cotton on what a good player he was. Once he got his consistency right. Anderson has plenty of time to emulate that and as far as I'm concerned has more to offer. Fletcher always did play better in the middle, but he did also have plenty of games where he was dross there as well. It was a consistency thing. Now we are acting as though Anderson isn't allowed the same time, or a run of games to develop. He has one offish game and is considered horrendous and not good enough, yet everyone forgets that part of the reason we dominated the game was partially due to him trying to be everywhere on the pitch. In the first half when we had possession he was there up front, when we didn't he was back helping out Evra or trying to stifle City's play. Yet everyone complains because he couldn't get a few long balls to our forwards. Guess what, we've been struggling to do that all season. It's all ok though too praise Carrick as our best midfielder, when he couldn't be arsed to chase Tevez, or pass the ball to Owen at least once. Still Carrick did pass the Ball to Rooney a few times. Must mean he was our best Midfielder then tonight.

Anderson would most likely get more oppertunities if he were breaking through at the same United Fletcher did. We're in a completely different situation right now though and while all of Anderson's flaws are excusable, he's just not as useful as he needs to be, to be starting regularly, if he insists on trying to play overly ambititious long balls that he isnt great at every few times he's given the ball.

Someone needs to have a word with him and just tell him to calm that down. Maybe try 1 a half or perhaps more if he has some success with it. But its currently a feature of his play that invites pressure on us, surrendering possession far too easily and his redeeming qualities dont really make up for it.

 

[Cina]

No you open your eyes and stop accepting mediocrity...the amount of shite you just spouted there is actually quite laughable....so much so your actually so idiotc i wont even dignify you with any furthers responses as its clear im dealing with a total waste of time.

 

[Allforone]

All I needed mate, just admit that you don't have the responses.

Oh sonny i have plenty you couldnt even begin to imagine.....your just another in a long list of tried and failed attempts...but chin up...one day your stupidity may actually pay off....

Oh, and im not your mate....

 

[johnmufc]

See i think thats extacly right, far to many on here (one in particular on this thread right now) totaly exagerates anything Carrick does to the point where even in matches hes done very little hes supposedly one of our best players etc etc...thats the problem, whether its these people are happy with the average run of the mill performance these days i dont know maybe thats the case but this season hes left so much to be desired its terrible really.....tonight again he was invisible after the first 15-20 mintes and as the most experianced of our central midfield trio thats criminal, hes supposed to be the stand out player the leader of that midfield, Carrick hasnt dominated a midfield in a very long time, thats the sad truth of the matter....and his form this season dosnt warrent him a place in the side anymore than the other midfielders we have.

See, this just proves your lack of understanding of midfield play (or football in general!).

Carrick is not in the side to be this superstar player. That's not his role! He's a deep-lying midfielder whose main focus is to keep play flowing. And he does this as well as anyone. He's not a flashy player, but this does not mean his role in the side is unimportant! It's extremely important. All sides need a player who can retain possession and start attacking moves from deep. This is exactly what Carrick does. Who in our squad could do this job better? Not Anderson, that's for damn sure!

 

[Cina]

Oh sonny i have plenty you couldnt even begin to imagine.....your just another in a long list of tried and failed attempts...but chin up...one day your stupidity may actually pay off....

Oh, and im not your mate....

And yet instead of giving me the responses you're just spouting illiterate abuse.

 

[adexkola]

Is stating that Anderson has made very little progress (if any at all) since his first season at the club a valid criticism?

Yes. He has had some good games, but on the whole he seems incapable of playing in a 4-4-2. What baffled me today was this should be his best formation, yet he was misplacing passes, he struggled to hold the ball, he was just a liability.

 

[Allforone]

See, this just proves your lack of understanding of midfield play (or football in general!).

Carrick is not in the side to be this superstar player. That's not his role! He's a deep-lying midfielder whose main focus is to keep play flowing. And he does this as well as anyone. He's not a flashy player, but this does not mean his role in the side is unimportant! It's extremely important. All sides need a player who can retain possession and start attacking moves from deep. This is exactly what Carrick does. Who in our squad could do this job better? Not Anderson, that's for damn sure!

Not for the first time you misunderstand totaly....a real problem of yours....Carricks dear mother...

 

[Allforone]

And yet instead of giving me the responses you're just spouting illiterate abuse.

Abuse? me? thats funny tiny tears i could have sworn it were you who started spouting abuse in your post a little further up this page when you disagreed with logic.....hmmm could it be your not only clinically stupid but also a bit of a hypocrite to?...i think so...

 

[Gambit]

I seem to recall a lot of criticism on this site towards Carrick at the beginning of the season. Wrongly or rightly, Carrick receives a lot of abuse.

The reason Anderson is slated is because we all expected great things from him. Carrick was never brought in to be a world class player, Anderson was meant to develop into one. He's made very little progress since his first season, and that is worrying. The criticism at his inability to impress is justified, in my opinion.



Carrick is 28. Players generally stop progressing at this age..!
Giving younger players a chance is well and good, but these young players have to be ready and the player whom they replace has to be ready to be replaced! Anderson is not ready to step up! Carrick is not ready to step down!

Of course he was brought to b a world class player. Carrick has done for us in past seasons, what Juan Seba Veron was meant to do (play well in Europe, Especially against Italians and Tottenham). Anderson has impressed, he has had games were he's blown me away with his potential. This season he has had just as many good games as some of our more seasoned midfielders. It's time to ring in the changes and give this lad a real run.

 

[Boss]

Yes. He has had some good games, but on the whole he seems incapable of playing in a 4-4-2. What baffled me today was this should be his best formation, yet he was misplacing passes, he struggled to hold the ball, he was just a liability.

Carrick,Fletcher, Anderson. It was the trio so many fans have prescribed and dreamt about but no formation can make up for a player's individual ability to pass well, it's all up to Anderson to step his game up.

 

[Allforone]

Carrick,Fletcher, Anderson. It was the trio so many fans have prescribed and dreamt about but no formation can make up for a player's individual ability to pass well, it's all up to Anderson to step his game up.

Yup your right it is...and only a run of games alongside a competent settled midfield partner (Fletcher) will do that.

 

[Cina]

Abuse? me? thats funny tiny tears i could have sworn it were you who started spouting abuse in your post a little further up this page when you disagreed with logic.....hmmm could it be your not only clinically stupid but also a bit of a hypocrit to?...i think so...

I said you were being idiotic, whilst responding with valid arguments. You're just spouting non-sensical bullshit at me and johnmufc because we're giving responses that you 'couldn't be bothered responding to anymore' or whatever.

So if it makes me a hypocrite, so be it. You're a fecking idiot.

 

[Gambit]

Yes. He has had some good games, but on the whole he seems incapable of playing in a 4-4-2. What baffled me today was this should be his best formation, yet he was misplacing passes, he struggled to hold the ball, he was just a liability.

Yet last season him and Gibson dominated a first team Everton side in a semi final where the formation played was 4-4-2. Today he didn't get to play 4-4-2. He had to make up the extra man in defence, midfield and attack.

 

[Allforone]

I said you were being idiotic, whilst responding with valid arguments. You're just spouting non-sensical bullshit at me and johnmufc because we're giving responses that you 'couldn't be bothered responding to anymore' or whatever.

So if it makes me a hypocrite, so be it. You're a fecking idiot.

..... i see youve quickly gone from crying about receiving what you deem 'abuse' (quite where i dont know) to being a total hypocrite and spouting more of your own yet again a post later....dear me such hypocritical responses.

 

[SharkyMcShark]

Needs to work on his passing and positional sense, but that's not new for him really. I don't know what his issue is really but every pass he makes is either underhit or overhit, but is generally going in the right direction.

In terms of physicality he's come on in leaps and bounds these last three years. Anyway, he's played well in a 442 more than once this season.

 

[Cina]

..... i see youve quickly gone from crying about receieving what you deem 'abuse' to being a total hypocrite and spouting more of your own yet again a post later....dear me such hypocrtical responses.

Read my post again there, mainly the 'so if it makes me a hypocrite' bit.

'cry', 'tiny tears', 'not your mate', 'Carricks dear mother'. You genuinely sound like a little teenage lad with no grasp of the English language.

I suggest leaving this tripe and getting back to the actual topic. If you actually want to provide a valid response to the post I made earlier then feel free to, if not then stop being a feckwit when someone disagrees with you.

 

[Gambit]

Needs to work on his passing and positional sense, but that's not new for him really. I don't know what his issue is really but every pass he makes is either underhit or overhit, but is generally going in the right direction.

In terms of physicality he's come on in leaps and bounds these last three years. Anyway, he's played well in a 442 more than once this season.

Not allowed to say that. Your only allowed to say he only plays well in a 3 man midfield which he is the worst.

 

[Allforone]

Needs to work on his passing and positional sense, but that's not new for him really. I don't know what his issue is really but every pass he makes is either underhit or overhit, but is generally going in the right direction.

In terms of physicality he's come on in leaps and bounds these last three years. Anyway, he's played well in a 442 more than once this season.

Thats true and a very encouraging sign seeing as that was my main concern for him at the start of the season, hes always in general looked good in a 4-3-3 but in a 2 man midfield hes often looked like hes not sure quite what his role is...unfortunatly against leeds despite being our only midfielder who even remotly looked up for the game he was partnered by a donkey in Gibson and had to do the work of 2 men....manfully he did to be fair and most agreed on here he was our best player on that afternoon...

Hes going to develop only with games and a consistent partner...its time hes was given both.

 

[Allforone]

Read my post again there, mainly the 'so if it makes me a hypocrite' bit.

'cry', 'tiny tears', 'not your mate', 'Carricks dear mother'. You genuinely sound like a little teenage lad with no grasp of the English language.

I suggest leaving this tripe and getting back to the actual topic. If you actually want to provide a valid response to the post I made earlier then feel free to, if not then stop being a feckwit when someone disagrees with you.

You still here? thought you ran off in a huff crying hypocriticaly about 'abuse' whilst talking out of your rear opening and calling people 'fecking idiots'....

 

[Cina]

Not allowed to say that. Your only allowed to say he only plays well in a 3 man midfield which he is the worst.

Gambit, that was only tonight, and he was the worst tonight, nobody can really argue that, so give it up will you?

Anderson is 21, it's young for a CM, and to expect a 21 year old CM to play in the center of the park at this level is difficult, especially on a consistent basis. I personally don't think Anderson has been good in a 2 man midfield, because he's not developed or old enough or what not yet. In a few years though, I'm sure he can be.

I'm just looking at this season in comparison to his first season, and he hasn't improved enough to warrant a consistent run of the team. i'd much rather a proven player like Carrick in the team. I don't give 2 fecks about age or development, I care about what results we get, and Carrick will help us get better results than Anderson at present.

 

[Cina]

You still here? thought you ran off in a huff crying hypocriticaly about 'abuse' whilst talking out of your rear opening and calling people 'fecking idiots'....

So ... you're not going to give a proper response to either myself or johnmufc then?

Thought so.

 

[Allforone]

So ... you're not going to give a proper response to either myself or johnmufc then?

Thought so.

You and thinking, dont really go well together do they.....

 

[Gambit]

Firstly, have you ever heard of paragraphs and full stops? Christ.



Oh please, it's not misleading, you could say the same thing about Carrick. Don't try twist it. Anderson has been rubbish anytime he's played with one other person in CM, he's not able to do it right now, hence why Ferguson only plays him in 3 man midfields

No he's not, he's played well in a fair few 2 man midfields, even showing up more experienced opposition

...but he's started 2 more games than Anderson, so explain to me how that means Carrick has gotten game after game and Anderson hasn't? And don't give me any of that 'misleading' bullshit, show me facts. Carrick has in no way played on a more consistent basis than Anderson this season. Our own CM to have done so is Fletcher, before he got injured.

Carrick is the seasoned midfielder, and this season is not performing to his previous excellent standard. Anderson is still learning as they say, so he has greater chance of improvement.

Such a silly consensus of Carrick, it really is. Anderson couldn't even get a straightforward pass right today, let alone a penetrative one, and he's barely got a penetrative one right all season.

Neither has Carrick. True he's had the odd game. Anderson has also had the odd game.

I never said the talent wasn't there, it is, but it's being overblown, and the lad has been very poor this season, so to suggest that he should get a regular run in the team (which he kinda already has been getting) ahead of a well established regular who is starting to show his old form now he's recovered from injuries, is pure madness.

He's not showed any sign of returning to his old form. (I wish he would, but whilst he isn't lets try another option)

Yeah you're right, Carrick is 28, I mean, he's done for isn't he? It's not like most CMs his their peak between the ages of 28 and 32 or anything, is it? Oh no wait...

Carrick has hit his peak, he has nowhere left to go. Anderson is only just begining to develop and iis showing far more skill and potential then Carrick ever did at the same age.

feck this, you're either completely idiotic or a WUM, comparing Carrick with Anderson like you are, and suggesting Carrick has 'had a good run' and should be brushed to the side for Anderson is just madness. Get a grip lad.

Unless Carrick steps up to his ways of previous years or starts to drastically improve then yes he should step aside.