MERGED: Rooney signs new contract!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Now THAT should be interesting!
He'll probably make it at 7.45pm just to be a complete git.
That's a particularly stupid post.
You're suggesting that Fergie should have immediately admitted defeat, the moment Rooney turned down the first offer of a new contract?
He still hasn't given up on him yet, 4 months later, for feck's sake. There's plenty of reasons to slate the Glazers but stupid shit like this does your cause no favours. It just makes you seem a bit thick.
Not unlike the press release from MUST, come to think of it...
He won't have written a statement. He'll have sat in a room with Stretford and some other gimps and worked out something decent to say. It'll be fluff. Like "his" rather weak statement just after the Algeria game.
Bond Holders who invested in Irish Banks are largely unknown & the Government wont disclose either. The only reason we all found out about Roman was because he's suing the Irish State!
I'm no expert on this shit, but i try to grasp what the fecks goin on because its such a feckin mess & folk are gettin off with serious criminal activity.
The word on the street is, the billions of bonds sold the other week that will take Ireland 10 years or more to pay & in the process will feck us all upside down & sideways paying that shit back, were bought by the same feckers who owe the banks millions / billions - which is now the Irish tax-payers bill because of the bailouts.
They've gotten away from paying their debt & have been able to buy bonds to SAVE THE IRISH STATE at an interest rate of around 6%. Ireland has been gang-raped over & over again...
Michael Collins / the revoultionaries & more important the legendary trade Unionist James Connolly, are all turing in their fecking graves. They helped achieve a Republic only for those traitors Fianna Fail to sell the deeds of the Country to modern-day greedy landlords
I can't fecking wait to hear this statement.
It might well be the case that there is no value in the market. If we had gone for a player in the January window and no-one had know about Rooney wanting to leave then we might have been able to buy at a fairly reasonable price.
Now that the world knows he's leaving do you think that will still be the case or do you think other clubs will be more likely to ask well over the odds if we were to try to buy one of their players.
Rooney and his agents may well have made things very difficult.....in regards to buying another striker.......by going to the press when they did.
That's the quality players I'm talking about above. Most of the "big names" are likely to be cup tied.
I really doubt he'll say anything of any real merit.
We won't really know what is going to happen with him until January, which is frustrating to say the least.
If rooney dare to say fergie and the club mistreated him, he can fcuk the hell off....
To be fair Pogue, something similar did cross my mind yesterday. Fergie used the word "adamant" when he described Rooney's stance over the contract breakdown.
Now, I agree that to immediately throw in the towel and admit defeat would perhaps be a bit knee-jerk but this was a big decision and a big gamble. It would have been a massive decision for Fergie to make and he clearly made it but what we seem to be left with now is our crown jewel losing value by the day, he doesn't want to play for us and we don't want him to play for us anymore.
The whole thing is a mess and, under normal circumstances, I would have expected Fergie to make a far more decisive erm... decision as soon as Rooney uttered the words Fergie hates more than any other, "I don't want to play for Manchester United anymore".
I don't believe Fergie doesn't know Rooney's reasons and this could well be crucial. If Rooney's reasons are not money orientated and are perhaps some bollocks about "needing to leave the country and the media" or something then perhaps Fergie is thinking that he will be talked round in time but if it is a case of Rooney being offered twice what we are capable of offering him then even Fergie would have to accept that that kind of money turns heads irreversibly and if that's his motive now then we've clearly had the best of Wayne already - the kid who just wants to play and would play for free is long gone.
Judging by how Rooney has acted so far throughout all of this, would it surprise anyone if he came out and released a statement saying he wants to join City?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
If Wayne attacks Sir Alex then its all over. While Sir Alex was rather blunt in his press conference yesterday, he didn't say anything to embarrass Wayne. I think it showed just how hurt he was. He cares about him, as do many at United and Wayne is trampling on their support. I hope he's man enough to release the statement himself and not hide behind his agent.
Do you guys think all this might factor in concerning how long SAF stays? For example that he realises that football has lost all soul because of money or something and loses motivation? Or perhaps more likely, that he now wants to prove everyone wrong and will stay even longer to build a new team?
Just throwing this out there. I think he'll stay for quite some years still.
Just throwing this out there. I think he'll stay for quite some years still.
Well said Mock. fecking disgraceful way of championing your cause. I'm a member of MUST, but that kind of shite-talk only takes pressure of Rooney's back from alot of supporters & thats not on. The Glazers have feck all to do with Rooney being the king of all cnuts - bar fecking none!
Let's hear him out first .
Could well be so, but I believe he would like to leave United in a good shape.
I'm sure their PR folk will have been working through the night on this one. Let's hope they've done a good job.
We have a CL match tonight and if this statement from these guys disrupts the fans/players anymore it will just increase the problem.
Betfair have 4/1 odds on him saying that he'd been treated like "a slave" by the club.
I may have made that up.
I may have made that up.
Aye they should have left it until tomorrow
To be honest, we don't know truly know why Rooney wants out, but I don't think MUST's statement is that far off. The debt has played an issue in the ambition of this club and asking players who aren't capable of it to replace big players who have left proves this. I've never been anti-Glazer really, I don't care that much, ever since the debt become obvious with the takeover, I knew it was inevitable a down period would come in time.
Like I said though, pretty sure the rent boys have chipped away at him at the world cup, and dropping out of potential moves for other forwards makes it all a bit iffy to me, and they won't offer him excessively more than we would. If he goes to City though, then well, yeah, whatever.
Like I said though, pretty sure the rent boys have chipped away at him at the world cup, and dropping out of potential moves for other forwards makes it all a bit iffy to me, and they won't offer him excessively more than we would. If he goes to City though, then well, yeah, whatever.
Fergie only has him cleaning his car and making him cups of tea to keep his feet on the ground. It's all done with Rooney's best interest at heart.
That is my exact worry mate, I hope this isn't the effect they are going for.
We should just get Andy Cole on the blower to tell Rooney that Stretford is a gimp of the highest order. These agents make themselves indispensable to the players. But when the money dries up they are no where to be seen.
Why hope his PR people have spun their lies well?
I hope he falls flat on his arse.
FYI CAFTARDS..........
Stretford-End.com has written an open letter to Wayne Rooney in response to the speculation that he wishes to leave Manchester United. The letter appears below, and has been sent to Rooney via the club.
Wayne,
Before you make the next move in this game of chess being played out with the media, think carefully. Think about whether you really want to leave Manchester United.
We’re reading that “behind closed doors” you’re telling your team mates that you want to join City. Money is undoubtedly a factor, but the instigator is supposedly the breakdown in your relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson. What has really caused this breakdown? Is it anything Sir Alex himself did, or is it his reaction to your own actions? If so, maybe, turning 25 this week should perhaps knock a bit of sense into you. You’re no longer able to blame your stubbornness on the belligerence of youth. Supporters can’t defend your indiscretions citing immaturity. And it’s because of this inability to defend you anymore that you seemingly are turning not only against the club but against the one person who has gone beyond the call of duty and at times sacrificed his own reputation to defend you.
You need to take responsibility one way or the other. Come out and say you want to stay, or that you want to leave. We, the fans, will not only respect you a lot more, but we will know what’s going on, then. If you want to stay, then great. United supporters have a great tradition of rallying around heroes who have supposedly fallen off of their pedestal. Eric Cantona for Selhurst. Roy Keane and Rio Ferdinand for their contract “negotiation tactics”. You yourself, and Cristiano Ronaldo, in 2006 after the World Cup. Remember the way we took you both back in and supported you. We’re ready to back you.
If you want to leave, then be honest and say so, but a word of warning. Be honest with yourself. Blaming Sir Alex is putting the blame where it is least deserved. Even after your actions, he stood by you, and was giving you a break to sort out your life. He did that for your own good, for the benefit of your personal life, despite the effect your absence might have on the team. Attributing blame to anyone else is pure cowardice. If you want more money, if you really think being able to make a million pounds in a few weeks is not enough, when most of the world can only dream of that sum in a lifetime, then at least be honest enough to admit it. Don’t put the blame onto someone who has done everything to protect you and has helped you, sometimes in spite of yourself, achieve things in the game you could not have achieved anywhere else. You owe him so much, but the least you owe him is to not make him the villain in the piece. You owe it to him to publically state he has done everything to help you, but you want to leave. But before you do that, think further still. Think of how you have done yourself no favours, and who else would go to such lengths to protect you. Who else would show the faith in you to come good. If you need an example, look at Paul Gascoigne. A player with the hopes and dreams of the country on his back, who struggled to cope, and whose career, then life, went to waste. A player who openly regrets turning his back on Sir Alex and United when he had the opportunity. Look at what happened to him without the right guidance and advice, and wonder if you really want to turn your back on all that you currently have? What good is money if your life goes to pot?
If you get your wish and you leave United, who will be there to help you next time – and, if this is your chosen path, and you’re absolving yourself of responsibility, then there will be a next time – you hit on hard times? There is no-one in any place that you think you will be able to go that will be able to protect you as much as Sir Alex does. And what effect will that have on your family? Once you leave the protection of United, you will be truly putting yourself in the goldfish bowl. Sure, you’ll be flavour of the month again for a short time. But when the initial furore wanes, and you find yourself in trouble again, the knives will be out, but you will have alienated those that matter in the game.
No-one at United wants you to leave. You’re part of the family. Even when Cristiano was getting the plaudits in 2007/08 and scoring the goals, we still recognised you as the heartbeat of the team. It was fitting that you scored the goal to crown us as World Champions. When you were booed by England fans and when the press panned you after South Africa and Germany, who were the fans backing you? After all your recent problems, who were the supporters still chanting your name for 70 minutes on Saturday, wanting your introduction, despite there clearly being something not right? We were. We stood by you, even though most of us disagreed with a passion with what you did. It went against what we believed as people, but we stood by you. Think about what you are doing to that relationship.
What happens to players after they leave United? Those who choose not to sign for us when they get the chance? Those who go on to bigger and better things are in a minority. Beckham? No. Ruud? No. Stam? No. Keane? No. Even Cristiano? Not at this stage. He’s learning the grass isn’t always greener, that other supporters aren’t quite as faithful or loyal as United supporters.
After all this, you still have a chance to put it right. You have two months before January, to put the rumours to rest. You can make a statement publically. You can do your talking on the pitch. Take that chance. Look at Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes. Look at Sir Bobby Charlton. Your chance to sit alongside them, to smash the goalscoring records, to notch this chapter as a minor hiccup, is in your hands. What does it matter, when you make as much money as you do, for an extra million here or there, when there is a chance of real footballing history? Stay at United and you will undoubtedly become our top scorer of all time. The top scorer of all time for the biggest club in the world? Surely that was one of things running through your mind in the playground?
If you come out now and state your desire to remain at United for the rest of your career – like you have in the past – then you will retain hero status before the press manage to wrestle it away from you in your silence.
But make no mistake, Wayne. United will move on with or without you. If you do move, it will be you who lives to regret it.
Stretford-End.com
Stretford-End.com has written an open letter to Wayne Rooney in response to the speculation that he wishes to leave Manchester United. The letter appears below, and has been sent to Rooney via the club.
Wayne,
Before you make the next move in this game of chess being played out with the media, think carefully. Think about whether you really want to leave Manchester United.
We’re reading that “behind closed doors” you’re telling your team mates that you want to join City. Money is undoubtedly a factor, but the instigator is supposedly the breakdown in your relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson. What has really caused this breakdown? Is it anything Sir Alex himself did, or is it his reaction to your own actions? If so, maybe, turning 25 this week should perhaps knock a bit of sense into you. You’re no longer able to blame your stubbornness on the belligerence of youth. Supporters can’t defend your indiscretions citing immaturity. And it’s because of this inability to defend you anymore that you seemingly are turning not only against the club but against the one person who has gone beyond the call of duty and at times sacrificed his own reputation to defend you.
You need to take responsibility one way or the other. Come out and say you want to stay, or that you want to leave. We, the fans, will not only respect you a lot more, but we will know what’s going on, then. If you want to stay, then great. United supporters have a great tradition of rallying around heroes who have supposedly fallen off of their pedestal. Eric Cantona for Selhurst. Roy Keane and Rio Ferdinand for their contract “negotiation tactics”. You yourself, and Cristiano Ronaldo, in 2006 after the World Cup. Remember the way we took you both back in and supported you. We’re ready to back you.
If you want to leave, then be honest and say so, but a word of warning. Be honest with yourself. Blaming Sir Alex is putting the blame where it is least deserved. Even after your actions, he stood by you, and was giving you a break to sort out your life. He did that for your own good, for the benefit of your personal life, despite the effect your absence might have on the team. Attributing blame to anyone else is pure cowardice. If you want more money, if you really think being able to make a million pounds in a few weeks is not enough, when most of the world can only dream of that sum in a lifetime, then at least be honest enough to admit it. Don’t put the blame onto someone who has done everything to protect you and has helped you, sometimes in spite of yourself, achieve things in the game you could not have achieved anywhere else. You owe him so much, but the least you owe him is to not make him the villain in the piece. You owe it to him to publically state he has done everything to help you, but you want to leave. But before you do that, think further still. Think of how you have done yourself no favours, and who else would go to such lengths to protect you. Who else would show the faith in you to come good. If you need an example, look at Paul Gascoigne. A player with the hopes and dreams of the country on his back, who struggled to cope, and whose career, then life, went to waste. A player who openly regrets turning his back on Sir Alex and United when he had the opportunity. Look at what happened to him without the right guidance and advice, and wonder if you really want to turn your back on all that you currently have? What good is money if your life goes to pot?
If you get your wish and you leave United, who will be there to help you next time – and, if this is your chosen path, and you’re absolving yourself of responsibility, then there will be a next time – you hit on hard times? There is no-one in any place that you think you will be able to go that will be able to protect you as much as Sir Alex does. And what effect will that have on your family? Once you leave the protection of United, you will be truly putting yourself in the goldfish bowl. Sure, you’ll be flavour of the month again for a short time. But when the initial furore wanes, and you find yourself in trouble again, the knives will be out, but you will have alienated those that matter in the game.
No-one at United wants you to leave. You’re part of the family. Even when Cristiano was getting the plaudits in 2007/08 and scoring the goals, we still recognised you as the heartbeat of the team. It was fitting that you scored the goal to crown us as World Champions. When you were booed by England fans and when the press panned you after South Africa and Germany, who were the fans backing you? After all your recent problems, who were the supporters still chanting your name for 70 minutes on Saturday, wanting your introduction, despite there clearly being something not right? We were. We stood by you, even though most of us disagreed with a passion with what you did. It went against what we believed as people, but we stood by you. Think about what you are doing to that relationship.
What happens to players after they leave United? Those who choose not to sign for us when they get the chance? Those who go on to bigger and better things are in a minority. Beckham? No. Ruud? No. Stam? No. Keane? No. Even Cristiano? Not at this stage. He’s learning the grass isn’t always greener, that other supporters aren’t quite as faithful or loyal as United supporters.
After all this, you still have a chance to put it right. You have two months before January, to put the rumours to rest. You can make a statement publically. You can do your talking on the pitch. Take that chance. Look at Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes. Look at Sir Bobby Charlton. Your chance to sit alongside them, to smash the goalscoring records, to notch this chapter as a minor hiccup, is in your hands. What does it matter, when you make as much money as you do, for an extra million here or there, when there is a chance of real footballing history? Stay at United and you will undoubtedly become our top scorer of all time. The top scorer of all time for the biggest club in the world? Surely that was one of things running through your mind in the playground?
If you come out now and state your desire to remain at United for the rest of your career – like you have in the past – then you will retain hero status before the press manage to wrestle it away from you in your silence.
But make no mistake, Wayne. United will move on with or without you. If you do move, it will be you who lives to regret it.
Stretford-End.com
The letter is a bit idiotic, almost as if begging him to stay in some part. I'd rather much sing the song that Plech rote.
Whilst I don't agree with the MUST statement; it was to be expected. They'll blame the Glazers for anything they can. I am nowhere near pro-Glazer, but MUST are incredibly manipulative and will quite happily jump on anything like this to get in a dig. It's ridiculous to blame the Glazers for Rooney's disloyalty.
I'm guessing Rooney's statement will be revealing very little and just say he's made his decision but he's going to give it all for United as long as he's at the club, even if it's for another 18 months, and all that.
The sound like scousers now. Blame the yanks!
Yeah, something like his statement to his affair. Boring and shit, and that he is only human.
My big fear now a press announcement is rumoured that we get the pay back of 'I want to leave England for the family'.
First because it's bollox but more importantly because it would absolutely screw what we could get for the cnut. There's only Madrid in that party and they can offer peanuts and what are we gonna do? United's in no position to sit it out and will have to offload him. We look pretty fkd. Thank you Wazza - you gimp.
First because it's bollox but more importantly because it would absolutely screw what we could get for the cnut. There's only Madrid in that party and they can offer peanuts and what are we gonna do? United's in no position to sit it out and will have to offload him. We look pretty fkd. Thank you Wazza - you gimp.
Pittance from Madrid beats a little bit more from City.
Like hell, Inter, Milan, Bayern. All the major players will have a stab at getting him to the club. Hell, even Barcelona would probably try and get him knowing how they love to collect world stars.
It'd also drive the price up that City would offer.
All this "ambition" thing is ridiculous
It will definitely be about his family etc.
He will still move to City though.
He will still move to City though.
A bidding war between City and Madrid that's what we should be hoping for.
No. My point is that by announcing his intention NOW on leaving the premiership we will be unable to deal with anyone but Madrid. If the twat says nowt we can deal with four clubs and then sell to Madrid if it suits US.
Sorry about that, don't think I made myself clear.
I don't hope they've spun their lies well. I don't want to hear any reasons about his leaving either. If they must say anything at all then I want them to keep it to the bare minimum, whatever that may be. Anything else can be left untill another day.
Frankly I'd rather he didn't say anything at all today.
He will probably come out and say he's not used to the weather, and wants to move to warmer climates.