World Cup 2018 & 2022 bids

Seveneric said:
He forgot to mention that most of Shahar Peer's matches at that tournament had to be played on a secluded court with hardly any camera coverage and crowd seating because of the hostile reception she'd have received playing in front of a full court. So what'll happen to the Israeli team if they qualify and have to play in front of probably over 40,000+ people?
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Who do you think will be watching the World Cup from the stands? Not Qataris, that's for sure.
 
cold-zebra said:
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They'll have 10 Brazilians and the star striker will be the offspring of some South Asian slave who built one of the stadiums.
 
MarylandMUFan said:
None of the 2022 bids were footballing nations but all of them except Qatar have national teams that can actually qualify on their own.
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All of the other bidders also have democratic governments and cannot offer bribes as easily as Qatar.

Otherwise, I fail to see why the 1st & 3rd biggest economies in the world can't outbid them.
 
antihenry said:
USA is not a footballing nation, majority of the population don't give two fecks about it.

I didn't say anything about Quatar.
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And yet 100m+ people watched this past world cup. More than the population of all but a few countries. The number off people watching formal here in the past 16 years has grown immensely. Given another twelve years, it wouldn't be far fetched for more than 150m people to watch the 2022 world cup.
 
Sir Matt said:
And yet 100m+ people watched this past world cup. More than the population of all but a few countries. The number off people watching formal here in the past 16 years has grown immensely. Given another twelve years, it wouldn't be far fetched for more than 150m people to watch the 2022 world cup.
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Except that it'll be on at 3 in the morning.
 
spinoza said:
I know, but they didn't want to be shamed by being the only nation to be there by virtue of paying for the party. So they pulled out all the stops and produced a team good enough to be there on merit.
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Actually, Japan were getting very very close before getting the rights, they were 2 minutes away from qualifying for 1994.

Qatar, on the other hand, have never even got close.
 
Cal? said:
Actually, Japan were getting very very close before getting the rights, they were 2 minutes away from qualifying for 1994.

Qatar, on the other hand, have never even got close.
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2 minutes from qualification = not qualified
22 games from qualification = not qualified

No difference in the record books.
 
Ixion said:
1712: Full results of 2022 voting:


Round 1: Australia1 vote, Japan 3 votes, US 3 votes, South Korea 4 votes and Qatar 11 votes.

Round 2: Japan 2 votes, South Korea 5 votes, US 5 votes and Qatar 10 votes.

Round 3 South Korea 5 votes, US 6 votes and Qatar 11 votes.

Round 4 US 8 votes and Qatar 14 votes (Qatar obtain absolute majority)
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Sickening. We were so cautiously hopeful and most agreed we were one of the best bids, but just 1 vote? Ridiculous.
 
phelans shorts said:
No, just no.

Watch Qatar qualify for Russia 2018 now, would be some serious egg on faces in here :lol:
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They probably won't, because that's not their way of doing things. But bringing that rule about having to qualify for a Cup before you host it does stupid things too, because Indonesia is eligible, but countries with better teams, like Japan and South Africa, aren't.
 
Actually, for those of us on the East Coast of the USA - if they start the Qatar games at noon and go through to say 10:00pm the games would start at 4:00am and end 2:00pm. Not bad. Australia would have been much worse.

Russia might be similar.
 
spinoza said:
They probably won't, because that's not their way of doing things. But bringing that rule about having to qualify for a Cup before you host it does stupid things too, because Indonesia is eligible, but countries with better teams, like Japan and South Africa, aren't.
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South Africa and Japan have both qualified for World Cups on merit in the past.
 
phelans shorts said:
2 minutes from qualification = not qualified
22 games from qualification = not qualified

No difference in the record books.
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Just pointing out that Japan (before being given the rights) were already at a decent level.

Qatar are nowhere near.

Imagine the same teams as this years WC qualified as 2022. We could have a group containing:

Qatar (pot 1)
North Korea
Algeria
Greece

That would make it such an exciting group.
 
I'm trying to see the positives for taking it to Qatar. There's plenty of political and cultural positives, hopefully it will bring the west and the middle east closer together.

Football wise though it just does not make sense whatsoever. And last time I looked this is the football world cup that we're talking about.

Hopefully in decades to come we'll look back and see that the positives far outweighed the negatives. But as an Australia, I do feel a bit sick in the gut at the moment.
 
The USA can no longer NOT be classified as a footballing nation. They have the second largest fan turnouts at world cups for god knows how many tournaments. They have a proffessional league that averages 30,000 a game, and footy is played in practically every city by many different people. It's there from grass roots to collegiate to proffesional and once they produce their first true homegrown world class talent I expect it will grow even more and start to overtake some of the traditional USA sports.
 
MadDogg said:
Sickening. We were so cautiously hopeful and most agreed we were one of the best bids, but just 1 vote? Ridiculous.
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I've said it many times, Australia's decision to move to AFC has pissed off many Asian nations.
 
Getting your knickers in a twist over the bid is miss placed. Focus on developing a team that you can actually be proud of in 8 years. Much more important than pouring resources into hosting. What would you rather be? A champion or a fecking host?
 
Excal said:
FFS, I'm not supporting the argument that you need to have qualified before hosting, but Qatar are not qualifying for Russia. Their last five international matches included a 1-1 home draw with Saudi Arabia and four losses to football powerhouses Iraq, Haiti, Yemen and Kuwait.
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They won't qualify for Russia, Brazil, or probably even their own World Cup.

You might get Brazil 2 or Nigeria 2.
 
spinoza said:
Japan qualified after they were given the rights.

Was South Africa at USA 98? Otherwise they were going to be hosts when they qualified in 02 I think.
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My point is that countries should wait until their football is of a good enough standard before bidding.
 
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