That doesnt mean that Newcastle were in a position to give him the contract he wanted.
Newcastle fleece Liverpool for Carroll
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That doesnt mean that Newcastle were in a position to give him the contract he wanted.
Watch Liverpool play kick & rush and continuously hoof the ball to Carrol with every opportunity they get in their games from now on...
The player Madrid want to sign is going to go for 15 million euros? Also the spanish papers have claimed that Bilbao turned a Spurs bid of over 30 million euros for him down.
I was hopeful that should we need a striker, Madrid would have too many for him to be interested in moving there and Bilbao are typically not a greedy club. But with the current climate, with Madrid's lack of strikers and rumoured agreement of a summer move and the extra clubs having an interest in him, it now seems unlikely that he'll move for any less than the likes of Suarez
Of course not. But I think he had a right to ask for it.
Seems the truth is coming out. Perhaps Carroll backed himself into a corner - if you threaten to move unless they increase your pay, you have to be prepared to do it if they say no. Seems like they called his bluff.
I don't think it was sensible for him to start down this route. Both he and the club should have agreed to keep their silence and part with some dignity, rather than half both blaming each other. Seems like a good deal all round if you ask me.
I said they'd be close to the title, I didn't say they'd win it. They'll be right up there in my opinion. They went through a spell of losing & drawing games, that could happen to anyone. It's quite conceivable that Chelsea will not lose again this season.
I'm not convinced that wins against Ipswitch, Blackburn and Bolton and a draw against Everton (which equates to yet another fixture for them) signfy the end of their problems.
There has clearly been problems in their squad and what's to say that having Torres in the team won't amplify these problems? After all it's Drogba, Anelka and Malouda that have been the most disappointing for them in recent months. Just because they have Torres doesn't mean they won't rely on the attacking trio anymore and whatever problems they have had will still need to be sorted.
I'm not expecting them to have the same run of form as November and December but I still see them dropping stupid points in a number of the remaining fixtures.
The Madness of King Kenny.
quality picture. lol
They have been improving and with all their players coming back from injury they will be very strong.
They were running away with the league at one stage before they got their injuries and a couple of their players like Drogba started playing crap. Well their injured players are back and the likes of Drogba are improving.
Regardless of Torres, Chelsea are getting stronger and I think people are mad to write them off. I'd be much more afraid of Chelsea challenging United than Arsenal or City.
The gap between us and Chelsea will not be 10 points by the end of the season.
Anelka has been very good. Carried their forward line by himself at times.
You think so? he was apprently excellent last night but I recall the other week they were going on on the radio about him not have scored in 10 hours of football or something similar.
Just searched for this thread after reading how Llambias bragged about getting 35m for Carroll.
Andy Carroll- The best young striker in the league.
I always believed in him.
The Divine Ponytail. He uses Head and Shoulders.
RedRover also believed that Welbeck was not good enough for the Premier League and later that he was just good enough for likes of Wolves.
He is a good guy, he should just stop talking about the potential of youngsters though
That RedRover guy is weird.
Spent the whole summer saying what great signings Adam and Henderson were too.
Spent the whole summer saying what great signings Adam and Henderson were too.
Adam has actually been quite good, but I think a lot of that goes down to the form of Lucas and him basically doing all the running in the midfield.
People are far too quick to be critical - this lad has a lot of potential, was excellent in the PL last season. Gave some top sides real trouble.
As I said at the time, they've clearly paid over the odds for him but I maintain that he could do well.
He spent half a season injured and has only had less than half a season to do anything so far. Its not even December yet.
It amazes me how quick people are to judge players from other sides yet we're all supposed to give United players an age to fulfil their potential. Anderson's been largely shite since we signed him yet we're all supposed to wait season afer season for him to do something.
I sometimes wonder if people on her actually watch any football too.
Not because I think Andy Carroll is the best young striker in the league mind.
Not because I think Andy Carroll is the best young striker in the league mind.
I never said that at all. You're simiply making that up.
For what its worth I've been impressed by Welbeck - he's done a lot better than I expected. I still question whether he'll ever be first choice partner for Rooney as opposed to Hernandez and or an attacking player in a 4-5-1.
Yes, amazing that people are more willing to give the benefit of the doubt to their own.
"other sides"
Berbatov got it even worse and wasn't even as overpaid.....well I guess thats down to how much you value proven quality and ability vs potential. But still, even if it is Liverpool, the club doesn't matter here. Fickle fans simple will be fickle.
Berbatov got it even worse and wasn't even as overpaid.....well I guess thats down to how much you value proven quality and ability vs potential. But still, even if it is Liverpool, the club doesn't matter here. Fickle fans simple will be fickle.
Well you were not that negative but for an United fan, you were pretty unenthusiatic about talking up his chances. Some posts i have found on a quick search. Anyways it is about time I stop getting on your back about Welbeck, but I do think you are unduly pessimistic about United youngsters while being much more enthusiastic about Non-United ones.
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I don't think there's a great deal wrong with his quotes. He's just questioned whether Welbeck can make the step up at United.
So far, so good. But it's still early days.
That's a bit of a stretch - he did OK but had maybe 2 or 3 league games in which he was "excellent". Playing half of a season in the premier league, and excelling in a couple of games does not really give us any evidence that he is a top talent.
I don't think he is a bad player, and he has SOME potential (not loads in my opinion) but he is nowhere near the best young striker in the league. He isn't even close to being the best young English striker in the league. Welbeck also had injuries last season, and Sturridge barely played until he went to Bolton, but they both look light years ahead of Carroll.
It's a bit of a shame for the guy as he can't control how much he is bought for, but he will probably never live up to that price tag.
So, let's guess how much Liverpool will sell Carroll for in a year or two!
I say 12 mil to Aston Villa.
I say 12 mil to Aston Villa.
He took Villa's defence to the cleaners early in the season - I always think they're a solid side. He gave Chelsea real bother and did very well in two games against Arsenal - the first of which he came on at half time when Newcastle were getting stuffed and dragged the centre backs all over the place. He also had a very good game for Liverpool against Man City.
For me its all about a change in English Football - players like him were ten a penny years ago but with more foreign players comes more "continental" defending. Up until the mid nineties all centre backs were hard as nails - now you get more ball players.
Carroll's advantantage is that modern centre backs don't like getting dragged about. He also takes up some useful positions. Its not pretty but as seen last year - when fully fit he's effective.
So far for Liverpool he's been dissapointing. He's clearly a player who needs to be fit and for whatever reason he's seeming to struggle with that. Perhaps thats his failing and if so he's got nobody to blame but himself.
For me, if he gets fit he could do well at Liverpool and really allow Suarez to run the show. Whether eh can knuckle down is probably the biggest question.
Indeed. After barely half a season at Liverpool Carroll is a failure, but after ten decent games for United Welbeck has class in spades.
I don't see whats wrong with any of that.
Welbeck did well at Sunderland, and has looked decent so far in the games that he's played. Fair play to him.
I of course hope that he makes it but I'm not yet convinced. Willing runner and works his socks off, handy finisher and a great athlete. I personally still doubt whether he has the class to be preferred over Hernandez although undoubtedly he'll get games at united over the course of a season.
Quite amusing then, that after half a season you were claiming he is arguably the best young striker in the league. So, is half a season long enough to make a judgement, or not?
Bit rich of RedRover to accuse United fans of bias when he himself admitted in the other thread that he will be always try to talk up the north eastern players.
just comparing your defence of Carroll compared with your opinion about Welbeck shows either your bias or your lack of understanding of talent.
just contrast it to his defence of other players. it doesn't sit right for an United fan
Perhaps not, but nobody has to agree. I'm not, nor was I seeking to force my opinions on anyone else. I watched a fair bit of the lad, liked what I saw and had my opinion on here.
On form - he arguably was.
Seems it offends people although I'm not sure why.
You should see him trying to control a football.
