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Anderson is fecking ace. That is all.
I concur
Amazing to see him pass the ball the way he did yet when you think about it, it seems like he cant even kick or strike the ball at times when hes in front of goal. Bizarre.
Generally speaking the average consensus on this site about a United player is probably more accurate than most journos opinions
...And people say he can't pass.
consistantly......and they'd be right....still has an awful lot to prove imo...
Anderson's had enough false dawns for us to treat his performance against Everton with caution. He didn't produce anything beyond what he is capable of on Saturday. That performance stood out though because he has produced mediocre performances far too often. Unfortunately, whenever he's come into a decent vein of form, he's tended to pick up an injury - he really needs to get an injury free run together before we see his best. I still think he's in poor shape, though that is possibly linked to his injury proneness...
I thought he did very well and was glad to see him complete 90mins for a change.
we'll only get an answer to the consistancy question if he can stay injury free and complete smore games.
His running and energy alone adds so much to our midfield, and he's got a real eye for a pass if not always the exectution. i'm still hopeful he'll come good for us, if he can actually manage to get a full pre-season with us this summer that'll benefit him no end (having said that - could he be off to the copa america this year?
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we'll only get an answer to the consistancy question if he can stay injury free and complete smore games.
His running and energy alone adds so much to our midfield, and he's got a real eye for a pass if not always the exectution. i'm still hopeful he'll come good for us, if he can actually manage to get a full pre-season with us this summer that'll benefit him no end (having said that - could he be off to the copa america this year?
)The home/away thing is weird.
I struggle to think of a poor home performance from him all season. He's been somewhere between good and outstanding every time he runs out at Old Trafford.
Away from home, he's been consistently somewhere between poor and garbage.
Why?
I struggle to think of a poor home performance from him all season. He's been somewhere between good and outstanding every time he runs out at Old Trafford.
Away from home, he's been consistently somewhere between poor and garbage.
Why?
Nah, I have seen quite a few on here saying he can't pass for other people to point out he's just inconsistent.
I think it's the difference in amount of time a player is afforded on the ball at home compared to away.
We're also likely to concede more possession away from home and I don't think that we see the best of Anderson when he's having to chase for possession.
I am not a fan of his but I must say that first half performance was very good. All credit for that. It's what he does now that's important. Can he build on it ?
For me he has a lot to prove and unlike many of his admirers who still wait for him to prove them right, I think he's very limited in what he does - overall. He can tackle and his passing can be good and penetrative at times but none of it is consistent. He's too reliant on his left and he can't shoot straight nor win the ball in the air. There's no doubt he's injury prone which isn't his fault but that's no good to United if it persists. His potential as a midfield goalscorer is virtually non existent. Cue a goal soon !
Our midfield plays deeper away from home, as a result we lose the initiative and Anderson just isn't as effective when we're not on the front foot. Off the ball he leaves a lot to be desired. In games like against Everton, who defend deep and basically concedes the midfield battle, he can concentrate on creating and driving on the ball and as a result he's good.
Teams pressurize us higher up the pitch away from home, and at the moment we struggle for a solution to that.
I think he was excellent for the duration of the Everton game, not just the first half. It's just that the whole team got more up to speed in the second half.
I don't feel he's one dimensional at all. We've seen snippets of his ability in terms of carry the ball and dribbling at real speed - he's a proper barrelling runner and when he gets into his stride, he's hard to bring to a halt. Players who are prepared to pick the ball up and drive at the opposition from central areas are a rarity these days.
He's also clearly got a fantastic passing range, as evidenced by three or four fantastic slide rule passes on Saturday. What he struggles on is his decision making, where he'll try the "Hollywood" ball instead of the square pass that will retain possession.
He is such a good footballer when he is on form. Theres three or four things that are missing from him to fulfill his potential though.
1) Shooting
2) Decision making
3) Stamina
4) Being one footed (doesn't matter that much as we see with Valencia)
1) Shooting
2) Decision making
3) Stamina
4) Being one footed (doesn't matter that much as we see with Valencia)
Two reasons.
One is the fact that the team itself has been consistently somewhere between poor and garbage away from home (by it's own standards).
Second is that he does need to work on his game when there is a lack of time and space. When teams come to OT and sit back his positioning to get the ball in partocular is not so much an issue because there is ample of open space around the centre circle. He just gets the ball and drives forward. In away games he has to be that much more clever off the ball and ensure he takes up enough good positions to get the ball and then be quick enough in thought to do something useful with it.
@ Top (can't seem to quote?) - tbf from that video, he's given a fair bit of room to strut his stuff in the first half which makes it easier. I've always rated his ability to spot a pass even if he does have inconsistent execution at times. When fully fit.. he can definitely producing a good passing performance across 90 minutes. However he always has these false dawns and then gets a serious injury which halts his progress, lets just wait and see if he can string an entire season together without injury before we really judge his merits as a player.
That's a very good observation. He is quite lazy off the ball. He needs to work harder to find space and make suitable angles to receive the ball.
I actually his great home form may actually help him with that. It hopefully will give him the confidence of being a more important member of the team and hence someone his team mates trust with responsibility rather than just another player to play his part.
Anderson had a great first half the other day.
I hope him and Hernandez get more playing time together this season. Anderson loves to get his head up and try to play runners in early. Hernandez is a perfect outlet, really.
If they can develop a proper understanding of each other's play I can see plenty more goals heading Hernandez's way.
I hope him and Hernandez get more playing time together this season. Anderson loves to get his head up and try to play runners in early. Hernandez is a perfect outlet, really.
If they can develop a proper understanding of each other's play I can see plenty more goals heading Hernandez's way.
Anderson had a great game the other day.
Great first half, decent second.
But whatever...
But whatever...
Having Hernandez making runs in behind makes it much easier for Anderson to slot the ball into Rooney in the hole as well, as he did several times yesterday to great effect.
Hernandez basically makes things much easier for our midfielders, at least when we get a bit of space and possession in midfield. Valencia sort of helps as well by sticking to the touchline and always providing an option.
I don't think that can an be used as as an excuse myself. Rooney, Valencia, Rio have all dealt with big injuries of late and come back in great shape and able to play on a very consistent basis for 90 minutes (well Rio slightly less so).
He needs to work on his fitness and he has had to for some time.
But he may naturally been prone to putting weight on - slower metabolism than the aforementioned players...? That's not ideal when you're sat on the sidelines for months at a time.
Either that, or he may just not be very professional.
Whatever, he really should get in better shape - it would improve his performance levels no end.
I've been reading some odd things about Anderson from rival fans on on general football forums. The general opinion is that he is slow, can't pass, can't shoot and is generally shite (bar 1 good game against Fabregas).
In my view he has all the tools needed to become excellent.
He has great vision, great acceleration, is strong and is a good tackler. Yes he can't shoot for beans but I would suggest that is more to do with snatching at chances he gets due to nerves or over-excitedness.
He's only 23 and I certainly have seen enough from him to suggest that there is more to come.
In my view he has all the tools needed to become excellent.
He has great vision, great acceleration, is strong and is a good tackler. Yes he can't shoot for beans but I would suggest that is more to do with snatching at chances he gets due to nerves or over-excitedness.
He's only 23 and I certainly have seen enough from him to suggest that there is more to come.
So many different ways to look at it. He's bloody quick, can get stuck in, almost impossible to beat in terms of upper body strength, good vision and at his best a brilliant passer. It's simple about all of it coming together and clicking. It's starting to do so in home games where he's been very good this season. Now he needs to keep up the good work at home and also raise himself for the away games (as does the team).
Aye, Hernandez's presence does wonders for the team. I think the last time we looked so well-balanced was when we had Saha up front.
There are so many ways Hernandez improves us it's amazing. He pulls defenders away giving Rooney more space to orchestrate play from. He's brilliant on crosses whether areally or on the ground which is great for the wingers. And he makes terrific runs which makes better use of our midfielders who can pass well.
Yes I love him
Yes I love him
I would suggest that it would have clicked for him already if he hadn't kept getting injured at crucial points.
I do love watching him play, I like that every now and again he will burn past players as if they weren't there. I like that he can smash a ball 50 yards to a waiting Hernandez.
There's been times when I've seen him play and thought "feck, this boy is good" and there have been times where I've had my head in my hands.
I have faith.
Absolutely. You have to have faith with his level of talent. And it's important to remember that every player progresses at a different rate, for whatever reason. It's just that Anderson is doing all his development at a giant club where he's judged as harshly as one can be, and the standards/expectations are highest.
It's entirely possible that he'd have fulfilled his potential if it wasn't for the constant injuries and disruptions. He's never really had a prolonged run in the side and maybe that's what he needs in order to take his performances to the next level. He can become the best midfielder in the league if he finds some consistency.
When his passing is on form it's amazing... the weighting of his through balls is unreal. Then you have that ability to drive 40, 50 yards with the ball and beat men in midfield, speed and power, a natural tendency to play one or two touch football around the box and someone who relishes a physical battle. He's a sight to behold when he's on form.
When his passing is on form it's amazing... the weighting of his through balls is unreal. Then you have that ability to drive 40, 50 yards with the ball and beat men in midfield, speed and power, a natural tendency to play one or two touch football around the box and someone who relishes a physical battle. He's a sight to behold when he's on form.
I think that's why.
Wasn't there pretty solid rumors that he was out on the town with Bibo-telli was night or something mental like that?
He was pretty much dead after 75 mins against Everton, looked incapable of running. I hope he sorts all of this out because it's hindering the progress of a highly talented fellow.
Just to confirm that, here are Anderson's starts this season:
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23/04 H-Everton PL W 1-0 4-4-2 1st
09/04 H-Fulham PL W 2-0 4-5-1 4th
19/02 H-Crawley FAC W 1-0 4-3-3 8th
12/02 H-Man City PL W 2-1 4-3-3 No votes
01/02 H-Aston Villa PL W 3-1 4-4-2 No votes
22/01 H-Birmingham PL W 5-0 4-4-2 4th
26/12 H-Sunderland PL W 2-0 4-4-2 1st
13/12 H-Arsenal PL W 1-0 4-3-3 2nd
07/12 H-Valencia CL D 1-1 4-4-2 1st
27/11 H-Blackburn PL W 7-1 4-4-2 3rd
20/10 H-Bursaspor CL W 1-0 4-3-3 4th
16/10 H-WBA PL D 2-2 4-4-2 8thAWAY
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19/04 A-Newcastle PL D 0-0 4-4-2 7th
29/01 A-Southampton FAC W 1-2 41212 No votes
01/01 A-WBA PL W 1-2 4-3-3 No votes
28/12 A-Birmingham PL D 1-1 4-3-3 No votes
30/11 A-West Ham CC L 4-0 4-4-2 1st
02/10 A-Sunderland PL D 0-0 4-3-3 7th
29/09 A-Valencia CL W 0-1 4-5-1 6th
22/09 A-Scunthorpe CC W 2-5 4-3-3 4thTBF, we had a brilliant team when we won the CL 2 years ago, very well balanced
You can really say the same thing about our whole team for the majority of the season.
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