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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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thanks for the entertainment....especially Lance and Randall.
I was so engrossed reading this I forgot to let my dog out.
hope she has not done the......
bloody ell.
I was so engrossed reading this I forgot to let my dog out.
hope she has not done the......
bloody ell.
"fanboy"... how old are you Saliph?
I've supported United all my life, I come from Manchester, I'm a season ticket holder, I sort other posters with tickets all the time, I go loads of Euro aways.
But yeah.... I actually support Tevez? what a little nerd you are.
Ah, the good ol' "look at me, I'm a great supporter, and my hatred of Berbatov is totally justified. Plus I don't even like Tevez".
Blatantly obvious that you're blaming Berb for the cnuts departure to City. You've never given him a break. I despise people like you.
If Berba had played as poorly as Chicha did in the final he'd be crucified. Don't even try to deny that.
zzzzzzzz!
I don't blame Berba for anything just so you know, what the feck could he do about it, refuse to sign or refuse to play? ha ha.
And I'll leave at that, like I should've done at the first mention of Tevez.
I like Berba, he's a very talented player and was our second best attacking player for at least half the season. His biggest problem is his head, he really lacks in confidence for long periods of time. He scored 11 of his 21 league goals in three games which is part of the problem. He isn't consistent and that's probably why Fergie chose Chicharito over Berba for the second half of the season.
Having said that, I hope Berbatov stays and proves how good he really is and does it consistently. Great player and I cannot understand why so many here are against him, we probably wouldn't be champions right now if not for him and Nani, Berba did wins us a few games along the way and was with Nani pretty much our only threat for a while this season.
Having said that, I hope Berbatov stays and proves how good he really is and does it consistently. Great player and I cannot understand why so many here are against him, we probably wouldn't be champions right now if not for him and Nani, Berba did wins us a few games along the way and was with Nani pretty much our only threat for a while this season.
thanks for the entertainment....especially Lance and Randall.
I was so engrossed reading this I forgot to let my dog out.
hope she has not done the......
bloody ell.
We should never have signed Red Dream's dog. She's too lazy, and we should have kept the cat.
Berba has his place in the united team. It's in Europe we play a different formation that does not require berba. I think berba is a bit upset thatvhe has been to 3 cl finals and not started any of them.
Understandable though that he be upset, surely ? Especially since we were so outclassed in our two final appearances?
looks pretty happy to me.
You're clearly as a stubborn as a mule. That much is certain. You still refuse to see the most obvious of things
Utter bullshit. Hernandez has had the same form all season long. Yet he spent most of it on the bench. Frankly I'm done with your stupidity. Waste some other person's time with it.
I should have known.
looks pretty happy to me.
And to me. Maybe there was some other explanation for his missing Wembley
I'm sick of hearing that little troll's name. He played for us for a few seasons but he hardly set the place alight!!! Well not for me anyway, but then my idea of skill isn't running all over the place like a headless chicken with little output
looks pretty happy to me.
he looks happy...
i can understand his dissapointment of missing from the 18 man squad for the final, any player would, yet alone an international class striker who is a very good player.
it is understandable if he feels very sad and unable to smile for a few days, yet he pick up himself and looks very fine to me now..
seriously lads. do you think he will be leaving?
Of course he is. But as mentioned before I don't think he would have made any difference our problems lie elsewhere.
As long as the players and managers understand his reaction that's what matters.
Great pics. Hope he stays.
Perhaps he just got out the right side of the bed this morning
It would take a knob of massive proportions to sulk and look sullen on a day like today
FFS are Randall and Sharky are really denying that they are huge Tevez fans?
Kinell
Posted by Sharky in the Tevez thread earlier. But yeah it was in past
Kinell
Posted by Sharky in the Tevez thread earlier. But yeah it was in past
FFS are Randall and Sharky are really denying that they aren't huge Tevez fans?
Kinell
Posted by Sharky in the Tevez thread earlier. But yeah it was in past
I think you have got issues. I am allowed to discuss a player without having an ulterior motive.
Perhaps sometimes my wording is a bit strong but really my assessments are quite fair.
I tell it how I honestly see it. Why would I think or express my opinions any other way?
If we have differing opinions thats all good. Football is a sport with many different views
FFS are Randall and Sharky are really denying that they are huge Tevez fans?
Kinell
Posted by Sharky in the Tevez thread earlier. But yeah it was in past
Your pretty pictures ( well the colours are nice ) do nothing to change my mind. We could something like that with Forlan, for instance.
So tedious
You are allowed to discuss a player, I agree.What I meant was that anyone can imply from your posts, that you're an huge fan of Tevez, so why denying it?
Also please stop going on "about my assessments being fair" thing, it's obvious you think so, that's why you keep on harping about but that doesn't mean it's fair.
I loved Tevez when he was with us and I still consider him a cracking player. I dont see where I have denied that? But it certainly does not have an effect on how I rate other players.
Why would it?
And I think I have only ever said "about my assessments being fair" once before and I recalled someone taking issue with it and decided to say it again.
It wasnt you was it?
FFS are Randall and Sharky are really denying that they are huge Tevez fans?
Kinell
Posted by Sharky in the Tevez thread earlier. But yeah it was in past
How fecking sad are you lot, leave Tevez out of it you Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime, we're duscussing Berba.
My pic was to show that Tevez did a great job for us, in the fecking past, exactly as I wrote u fecking clown.
Just leave it mate, SAF could turn round, sell Berb and call him a let down but they'd still throw Tevez at us the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
Berba being totally fecking DROPPED has nothing to do with Tevez u tards.
Just found it strange than anyone could go to these lengths for a City player. Anyways, stop getting so wound up Sharky, I didn't started this whole Berba/Tevez discussion.
If we are to take the final step in the transition to SAFs last all conquering team (and mark my words, he will build a team that will beat Barcelona en route to becoming champions of Europe again), then we will need Dimitar Berbatov. What SAF needs to do is add significant talent which raises the quality of our options, NOT start losing players and weakening what is already a very good squad.
Fighting on all fronts is a demanding, complicating and exhausting business and you need as much strength in depth as you can muster.
Berbatov is a committed Manchester United player. Sure, it will have hurt his professional pride not to have been chosen for the bench in the CL final, but he is mature, wise and experienced enough to separate personal emotions from what is best for the team, his team. He knows he is a senior member of our squad, that SAF values his contributions (he is one of our best paid players and wears our 9 shirt!!
Anyway, every season is different and whichever player was dominant one season may not be the next. Hernandez will find next season far tougher then this years, as clubs will have experience playing against him and he will have high expectations from SAF and fans alike. Who's to say that next season, berbatov starts off with a bang and makes himself undroppable, much like Teddy Sheringham did in 2000/1?
This season is over, there is so much to be happy about and to celebrate. Please get off Berbatov's back, out title win belongs to him as much as any other player .... lets put it this way, if we had not had his service this season, Manchester City would be champions!
Fighting on all fronts is a demanding, complicating and exhausting business and you need as much strength in depth as you can muster.
Berbatov is a committed Manchester United player. Sure, it will have hurt his professional pride not to have been chosen for the bench in the CL final, but he is mature, wise and experienced enough to separate personal emotions from what is best for the team, his team. He knows he is a senior member of our squad, that SAF values his contributions (he is one of our best paid players and wears our 9 shirt!!
Anyway, every season is different and whichever player was dominant one season may not be the next. Hernandez will find next season far tougher then this years, as clubs will have experience playing against him and he will have high expectations from SAF and fans alike. Who's to say that next season, berbatov starts off with a bang and makes himself undroppable, much like Teddy Sheringham did in 2000/1?
This season is over, there is so much to be happy about and to celebrate. Please get off Berbatov's back, out title win belongs to him as much as any other player .... lets put it this way, if we had not had his service this season, Manchester City would be champions!
Why ruin a decent post with some absolute drivel at the end.
hindsight is a great thing but would anyone have preferred Berbatov to Hernandez for this game?
The way we played I can't help but think him holding the ball up with strength and having ability to do a bit more would have helped rather than hopeful long balls. I think this game just came a bit early for Hernandez who can develop to do what we needed him to do in the future.
Considering how the game panned out and how we did not freshen up the midfield Berbatov on at half time might have helped. I actually think he is more suited to play Barca than most teams but he has not had much chance in the finals we have played against them.
The way we played I can't help but think him holding the ball up with strength and having ability to do a bit more would have helped rather than hopeful long balls. I think this game just came a bit early for Hernandez who can develop to do what we needed him to do in the future.
Considering how the game panned out and how we did not freshen up the midfield Berbatov on at half time might have helped. I actually think he is more suited to play Barca than most teams but he has not had much chance in the finals we have played against them.
Ok, i still think we should have never signed Berbs, never let that Argie cnut leave and when you ask me it's United with Tevez > United with Berbs. But feck me- can we stop this nonsense and move on? Berbatov had a very good season with us, scored 20 goals, carried us on when we baldy needed him and feck me sideways if there is any reason for him to leave. This rumour has no substance whatsoever yet has been widely discussed for last2 weeks. FFS why?
I think when the manager leaves the top scorer of the domestic division out all together in a European final, when he isn't injured, then it's not unreasonable to ask questions about the player's future. Especially given the reduced role he has played in the later stages of the season. it's hardly journalists causing trouble for the sake of it, making something of this story.
We cannot just be like Comical Ali, ignore what happens and say 'nothing to see here, move along'. The boss will do that because that is what the boss does, but it's bordering on the belief in the easter bunny to think everything is 'fine' between Berbatov and the club.
We cannot just be like Comical Ali, ignore what happens and say 'nothing to see here, move along'. The boss will do that because that is what the boss does, but it's bordering on the belief in the easter bunny to think everything is 'fine' between Berbatov and the club.
I'm honestly bewildered by this sort of comment.
If Berbatov was on, it would have been the same thing we've seen in thread after thread..."The midfield couldn't get Berba the ball...on and on."
The problem was the mid-field. Berba wasn't going to make a difference. Plus, with Berba up front, you've then got their defenders making runs forward because they aren't worried about the movement of Hernandez.
The loss had absolutely nothing to do with Hernandez or Berbatov. Nothing. We were completely dominated in the mid-field. End of.
It's very easy afterwards to say who should have played, but how many complained before the game?
Berbatov has, sadly, done nothing in the CL, so why would he have achieved anything against Barcelona?
If he had played, you can guarantee that there would now be people saying that Hernandez should have started.
Berbatov has, sadly, done nothing in the CL, so why would he have achieved anything against Barcelona?
If he had played, you can guarantee that there would now be people saying that Hernandez should have started.
Form Berbatov's perspective, you'd surely think that you've had the season of your life in terms of goals, and still didn't get to play in the biggest games. Where is his motivation next season coming from? He's 30 now, he only has a limited number of 'big' seasons left in his arsenal, why spend them at a club where he must question whether, regardless how well he does, he knows he may not even be there sharing the spoils at the end.
I don't think the boss made the wrong call at all, but from a player's perspective it'd be reasonable for that to be going through his head right now.
Aside from the fall out with Fergie that RvN had, the situations seem reasonably similar to me. I think Ruud was dropped because our style had evolved, despite the season before being an absolute goal machine. The rows sealed it, but he ended up spending more and more time on the bench and the arguments then would have been similar 'He scored 30 goals last season, we'd be crazy to let him go, we need to keep our best players not sell them'.
There's no conclusive evidence that writing is on the wall but I get the suspicion it might be.
I don't think the boss made the wrong call at all, but from a player's perspective it'd be reasonable for that to be going through his head right now.
Aside from the fall out with Fergie that RvN had, the situations seem reasonably similar to me. I think Ruud was dropped because our style had evolved, despite the season before being an absolute goal machine. The rows sealed it, but he ended up spending more and more time on the bench and the arguments then would have been similar 'He scored 30 goals last season, we'd be crazy to let him go, we need to keep our best players not sell them'.
There's no conclusive evidence that writing is on the wall but I get the suspicion it might be.
Just got back from a trip to Bulgaria. I watched the match in a hotel bar in the SW mountains and the Bulgarian coverage was fascinating. First of all, Berbatov was interviewed for almost 10 minutes before the match in the empty Wembley Stadium. He announced straight away that he was not even in the squad and he was clearly unhappy. The interviewer was incredulous as were the locals watching the match with me. His body language and tone throughout the interview was defeatist, self-pitying and humiliated. He was repeatedly asked if this meant the end of his career at United and he kept saying he did not know.
The general consensus in the bar after the match was that he would seek a move to a club where his skills would be better appreciated. Oh and everyone cheered on Barca throughout. Not the experience I was expecting.
The general consensus in the bar after the match was that he would seek a move to a club where his skills would be better appreciated. Oh and everyone cheered on Barca throughout. Not the experience I was expecting.
Its not about what would be commentate4d in thread after the game, its about how the team would have played with him in it. Strange post.
Try reading it again. I said how the team would have played throughout my comment. The answer is: "no different, regardless of the forward because the mid-field was the problem."