Spot on. Berbatov's champion league final omission was 100% to be expected. Even if he had been in top form. He has yet to consistently click for us in Europe since he arrived.
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Yup. Berbatov seems to have improved immeasurably since Saturday evening. Here's me thinking he's had a crap few months, scoring 2 in 16 and not particularly looking like he could hit a cows arse with a banjo. Never mind his dire output in Europe fullstop
Folk are kidding themselves if they think he'd have made feck all difference against Barcelona
Hitting a cow's arse with a banjo is a phrase I will definitely be using again
It's not beyond reason that he might rise to it? Who knows? He's tremendous at holding up the ball under pressure and might've allowed our deep-lying team to get forward more before the ball was lost again.
Quite possibly not, but to rubbish the notion completely is nonsense.
Quite possibly not, but to rubbish the notion completely is nonsense.
How many times did you come on the boards after a game this season and read "The midfield didn't give any service to Berbatov."
It was relentless and considering his form, I seriously doubt he would have made a difference because he would have never gotten the ball. That's the point.
the fact that Chico hardly got the ball is the key.
our goal came about us beating their offside trap...some would say it was offside even..arguable.
Berba would have had to get the ball first, before he could hold it up.
think the team Fergie played was set to beat their offside trap. And Owen rather than Berba on the bench is a similar player to Chico....fast. Fergie had decided the only way we were going to beat them is quickly get at them before their midfield regained possession. Cause once they did, it would be near impossible to get the ball back...as it so proved.
I hink Chico bottled it a little in the final as it was his first taste of something on that scale and he was slightly offside everytime the ball was played to him which is uncharacteristic.
But Berba is not a big game player really and Chico has proven to be a big game specialist so there was never a chance that Berba was gonna be in the team and I was delighted t see Owen on the bench before him as in a tight game you need a fox in the box and not a player like Berba
But Berba is not a big game player really and Chico has proven to be a big game specialist so there was never a chance that Berba was gonna be in the team and I was delighted t see Owen on the bench before him as in a tight game you need a fox in the box and not a player like Berba
less Chico bottling then, their defence playing him well. Their left back pretty much kept Valencia silent too.
You tell me? I can't recall having favoured that point this season. I've been more shocked about certain people sticking to their guns that they didn't care for Berba when he was our topscorer and was showing his best form. And I didn't exactly harp on about him being needed in our line-up, I've been happy to see Chicharito favoured, so I don't see why you have me jotted down as a relentless spin doctor on Berba's behalf this season.
And I wasn't saying that it was likely that he'd turn it around or make much of a difference... I was just saying that to put down people's musings about that possibly being a scenario is not justified, he just MIGHT have made a difference.
I like Berbs but if he is on his way I hope Gill at least has his phone on vibrate.
I think this might be the end of his United career (I actually said a couple of months ago that he might be gone), he has barely played in the past few months and Hernandez has moved ahead of him, he is in the last year of his contract and I imagine he won't extend his given his squad status. There will be plenty of teams willing to take him, pretty much all Italian top sides except Inter would find him useful, Bayern won't mind him at all and there will be a whole group of less prestigous clubs keeping an eye on him. We could probably use some money during the rebuilding of our squad that seems to be inevitable with the amount of coming departures, he will probably cost around £10m.
It's a bit like van Nistelrooy situation where he was dropped in the middle of the season in spite of not doing that bad, he got benched and Saha took his role, and then got sold the following Summer. I still cannot believe we let him go for £10m though.
It's a bit like van Nistelrooy situation where he was dropped in the middle of the season in spite of not doing that bad, he got benched and Saha took his role, and then got sold the following Summer. I still cannot believe we let him go for £10m though.
he wants regular first team football...and at his age, we cant blame him.
there wont be lack of takers mind.
there wont be lack of takers mind.
Welbeck obviously comes in but Owen and Berba both leaving at the same time is a hit not to be underestimated. Big loss in experience especially when Hernandez is still for for his impact still learning.
Fergie mentioned Diouf coming back too...
not sure what the situation is with Kiko either.
he may get a striker too...but I doubt it.
Whatever happens I think SAF and United will not let it linger.
I may be wrong here but didn't Nani leave the ground once after not being in the squad?
I may be wrong here but didn't Nani leave the ground once after not being in the squad?
Fergie mentioned Diouf coming back too...
not sure what the situation is with Kiko either.
he may get a striker too...but I doubt it.
Kiko has done very little at a struggling Samp and Diouf has hardly got a kick at Blackburn when the buisness end of the season kicked in.
I suspect Macheda will end up in Italy this season even if it means him coming back to England initially.
Diouf will come back because Blackburn don't want him but I see no future for him at United.
Welbeck is the one.
really? thought Anderson went back home..is what I remember.
Nani has urged Dimitar Berbatov not to turn his back on Manchester United despite his UEFA Champions League final snub.
He said: "I don't know what he has in mind but everyone knows he's a fantastic player.
"He has scored a lot of goals for us, finished as the top scorer in the league, and I would like him to play for Manchester United again next season.
"I don't know which players will be coming in but most important is that the ones who stay fight for us."
Berbatov's agent Emil Dantchev rejected as 'nonsense' suggestions his client had stormed away from Wembley after learning he would not be involved, but refused to be drawn on his long-term future with United.
He said: "Let us take a few days."
He said: "I don't know what he has in mind but everyone knows he's a fantastic player.
"He has scored a lot of goals for us, finished as the top scorer in the league, and I would like him to play for Manchester United again next season.
"I don't know which players will be coming in but most important is that the ones who stay fight for us."
Berbatov's agent Emil Dantchev rejected as 'nonsense' suggestions his client had stormed away from Wembley after learning he would not be involved, but refused to be drawn on his long-term future with United.
He said: "Let us take a few days."
Too early for Keane even if we let Berba and Owen go. A good prospect and glad we have him coming through but I think we need to let him develop naturally.
in that scenario it sounds like we should bring someone in.
maybe Gill was not kidding about being very busy
maybe Gill was not kidding about being very busy
Rooney-Hernandez' flaws were indeed exposed against those 2 teams. Yes, the midfield is crap, but when you've got no quality there you go for quantity
Hernandez was useless, Rooney would have done better up top and we'd have had the extra man behind. The tactics were all wrong again. We learned nothing from 2009.
Sigh...I still believe we stood a chance. I blame Phelan
Berba is back in Sofia now and is not answering questions on his future. His agent just said that they will see in the next few days.
Berba, in his speech at his foundation reception, actually apologized to the nation saying that he is ' really sorry that so many people were disappointed that he did not take part in the CL final but he could not do anything about it.'
He also said that he is already thinking ahead to the new season and that he hopes to win more trophies. I wonder if this means that he is staying?!
Berba, in his speech at his foundation reception, actually apologized to the nation saying that he is ' really sorry that so many people were disappointed that he did not take part in the CL final but he could not do anything about it.'
He also said that he is already thinking ahead to the new season and that he hopes to win more trophies. I wonder if this means that he is staying?!
We can rule out a move to Arsenal then.
His wife?
goal.com claims he is leaving, those quotes must be true then
Manchester United star Dimitar Berbatov 'would consider' a sensational return to Tottenham
Out-of-favour Bulgarian almost certain to leave Old Trafford following Champions League final omission & is willing to consider a controversial £10m return to White Hart Lane
Manchester United star Dimitar Berbatov is keen on making a sensational return to Tottenham, Goal.com has learned.
The Bulgarian striker looks set to leave Old Trafford for £10 million this summer after he was completely left out of the squad for the Champions League final defeat to Barcelona last Saturday.
Berbatov joined United from Spurs in acrimonious circumstances on the last day of the summer transfer window in 2008, but he has told friends he would be interested in a return to White Hart Lane.
The 30-year-old was a huge hit in north London as he scored 46 goals in all competitions in two seasons at Spurs following a £10.9m switch from Bayer Leverkusen in 2006 - but he angered fans and the club by refusing to play as he forced a move to Old Trafford.
Tottenham are believed to have discussed the possibility of re-signing Berbatov but are unlikely to make a bid due to the unsettling influence he had in the dressing room during his time at White Hart Lane.
Chairman Daniel Levy is also wary of Sir Alex Ferguson's interest in playmaker Luka Modric, and any discussions about Berbatov will inevitably raise the prospect of a deal including the Croatian. Spurs manager Harry Redknapp is adamant that Modric will not be sold despite the 25-year-old's suggestion that he is open to a move to a club in the Champions League.
"Dimitar will take some time to think about his future but the only clubs in England he would consider are those in the Champions League - or Tottenham," a source close to the player told Goal.com. "Right now, he does not want to play for United - and they don't seem to want him either."
Berbatov appeared with the rest of the United squad on Monday as they paraded through Manchester to celebrate winning the club's 19th English title.
But both the player and the club accept he will leave Old Trafford, with Berbatov out of contract next June and refusing to sign a one-year rolling deal worth £120,000-a-week.
Berbatov finished as the Premier League's joint top scorer with 21 goals but is unhappy at being relegated down the United pecking order following the emergence of Javier Hernandez.
Despite his age, he will not be short of suitors, although United will want to recoup as much as possible of the club record £30.75m fee they paid Spurs for the player in September 2008.
Berbatov is understood to favour a move to German giants Bayern Munich, while Italian side Juventus have also expressed an interest in the former Bayer Leverkusen striker.
Newcastle have also been linked with a £7.5m bid but Berbatov is understood to have no interest in a move to St James' Park despite supporting the club when he grew up.
Once Berbatov leaves Old Trafford, Sir Alex Ferguson will turn his attention to securing a younger replacement for the Bulgarian.
Manchester United star Dimitar Berbatov 'would consider' a sensational return to Tottenham - Goal.com
Manchester United star Dimitar Berbatov 'would consider' a sensational return to Tottenham
Out-of-favour Bulgarian almost certain to leave Old Trafford following Champions League final omission & is willing to consider a controversial £10m return to White Hart Lane
Manchester United star Dimitar Berbatov is keen on making a sensational return to Tottenham, Goal.com has learned.
The Bulgarian striker looks set to leave Old Trafford for £10 million this summer after he was completely left out of the squad for the Champions League final defeat to Barcelona last Saturday.
Berbatov joined United from Spurs in acrimonious circumstances on the last day of the summer transfer window in 2008, but he has told friends he would be interested in a return to White Hart Lane.
The 30-year-old was a huge hit in north London as he scored 46 goals in all competitions in two seasons at Spurs following a £10.9m switch from Bayer Leverkusen in 2006 - but he angered fans and the club by refusing to play as he forced a move to Old Trafford.
Tottenham are believed to have discussed the possibility of re-signing Berbatov but are unlikely to make a bid due to the unsettling influence he had in the dressing room during his time at White Hart Lane.
Chairman Daniel Levy is also wary of Sir Alex Ferguson's interest in playmaker Luka Modric, and any discussions about Berbatov will inevitably raise the prospect of a deal including the Croatian. Spurs manager Harry Redknapp is adamant that Modric will not be sold despite the 25-year-old's suggestion that he is open to a move to a club in the Champions League.
"Dimitar will take some time to think about his future but the only clubs in England he would consider are those in the Champions League - or Tottenham," a source close to the player told Goal.com. "Right now, he does not want to play for United - and they don't seem to want him either."
Berbatov appeared with the rest of the United squad on Monday as they paraded through Manchester to celebrate winning the club's 19th English title.
But both the player and the club accept he will leave Old Trafford, with Berbatov out of contract next June and refusing to sign a one-year rolling deal worth £120,000-a-week.
Berbatov finished as the Premier League's joint top scorer with 21 goals but is unhappy at being relegated down the United pecking order following the emergence of Javier Hernandez.
Despite his age, he will not be short of suitors, although United will want to recoup as much as possible of the club record £30.75m fee they paid Spurs for the player in September 2008.
Berbatov is understood to favour a move to German giants Bayern Munich, while Italian side Juventus have also expressed an interest in the former Bayer Leverkusen striker.
Newcastle have also been linked with a £7.5m bid but Berbatov is understood to have no interest in a move to St James' Park despite supporting the club when he grew up.
Once Berbatov leaves Old Trafford, Sir Alex Ferguson will turn his attention to securing a younger replacement for the Bulgarian.
Manchester United star Dimitar Berbatov 'would consider' a sensational return to Tottenham - Goal.com
Well that's certainly a reliable source
I like it when they say a source close to the player, what bollocks...
enough said.
He was too embarrassed...yes, definitely comparable to Tevez. What a cnut.
No smoke and all that
That is nice to hear. I am pleased he said sorry.
But this summer may not be up to him. Its up to Fergie to offer him a new deal. If not he will be off if he likes it or not
can''t help but feel for the guy after putting in an excellent effort this season, to the extent that despite being ignored for the latter half was still top scorer - and he isn't even an out-and-out striker, lost his place to another because he was deemed not to do the biz when it counted and then his replacement didn't do the biz when it counted
yes - I'm aware of the alternative views but he has reason to be pissed off yet shows an excellent attitude
yes - I'm aware of the alternative views but he has reason to be pissed off yet shows an excellent attitude
The smoke comes from the fact Berbatov's a big name player, he's been left out of the Champions League final and he's got one year left on his contract. The amount of bullshit rumours you put up should surely make you aware that very often the smoke comes purely from the journalists and not from our side.
You never seem to have any form of sympathy, empathy or positive feeling about Berbatov - even if you're speaking the truth - so is it any wonder people think you don't like Berbatov?
Yeah, I don't think he was saying sorry for the reasons you think though....
Would you prefer to see him go? It certainly reads that way RF.
Whatever anyone says, Berbatov is an absolute class act. Sadly, I think he'll be off.
He'll stay.
Great player
Great player