True, that.
2019/20 Rivals - Chelsea
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
True, that.
To be fair everyone knows ( Chelsea included) that this season they're not going to do well, so they won't be a worry. Frank's really lucky the transfer ban and Hazard leaving releases a heap of pressure off him this season.
This season it's going to be:
City
Liverpool/Spurs
Arsenal/Utd
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Chelsea
fecking hell, this guy is going to break your heart one day.
He's not lucky, he probably would not have got the job without the ban.
Give Lampard a season, a few transfer windows to make changes before we start questioning whether he is a good manager or not.
Although one thing he must stop doing, like right now, is playign Tammy Abraham. Not good enough. Championship striker, nothing more. I know that will cause mayhem among the youth lovers, but if Abraham was signed from an Italian, Swedish, French, German etc side, you'd want him nowhere near the team. And im basing that off his poor premier league stint at Swansea, too. Can't absolve him of blame and molly coddle him just because he is an academy boy. Batshuayi is so much better imo. I dont see what Abraham adds. His hold up play is poor, i never feel like he is going to score when he gets a chance. Loses a lot of aerial duels. Goes to ground far too much. I think he is miles off being a prem striker
Although one thing he must stop doing, like right now, is playign Tammy Abraham. Not good enough. Championship striker, nothing more. I know that will cause mayhem among the youth lovers, but if Abraham was signed from an Italian, Swedish, French, German etc side, you'd want him nowhere near the team. And im basing that off his poor premier league stint at Swansea, too. Can't absolve him of blame and molly coddle him just because he is an academy boy. Batshuayi is so much better imo. I dont see what Abraham adds. His hold up play is poor, i never feel like he is going to score when he gets a chance. Loses a lot of aerial duels. Goes to ground far too much. I think he is miles off being a prem striker
He took over from Gary Rowett who makes Pulis look like Pep (style wise).
Maintaining a league position while changing a clubs culture is a decent season.
They scored 1 more goal the season before.
And again, that was without Wilson and Mount. Two PL level players.
It was fine. Nothing impressive or worthy of earning a PL job, if it wasn't Frank Lampard nobody would have batted an eyelid.
Come on man. Poch is a great manager for sure, but this Chelsea side is the worst it's been in 15 years with a rookie manager at the wheel. Maybe they will get their act together, but right now i dont see a single Chelsea player making it into the Spurs first XI, maybe Azpilicueta and/or Kante, but not anyone elseI'd call that a lucky break. It's been awhile that a manager comes to Chelsea with no pressure to do well due to the circumstances. However even though the acceptance of not getting 4th maybe there, for Franks sake the performances better be, otherwise it's going to a long season for you lot.
Their squad is looking very average and I actually think they will fall out of the top six and dare I say become a mid-table team in the coming years if teams like Wolves and Leicester start pushing hard, but it’s still only 2 games into the season. I’ll wait till Christmas to judge and decide.
Next week they'll be playing Norwich away. Think Pukki will trouble that back 4 a lot.
Kante and Kepa both start.
Kante walks in without a second thought, I'd fecking love him at Spurs. Unreal midfielder.
I'll wait until they've played about 10 games before deciding if Lampard has made a positive or negative impact.
Chelsea are extremely naive, I know Lampard wants to play pretty football but he needs some semblance of balance in the side.
Both vs United and Leicester, they played right into their hands. Teams who want to soak up the pressure and hit them on counter.
Both vs United and Leicester, they played right into their hands. Teams who want to soak up the pressure and hit them on counter.
I actually like how chelsea play now, lets give them a few more games before declaring Lampard a failure
People talking about top 6 as if that's something to aim for. If we can't finish top 4 then we'd be better off in 7th than 5th or 6th.
I've enjoyed watching them but today they were dross. The second half was just Leicester.
I stated somewhat, but Chelsea should have lost today. Performance wise, if I was a fan I would be concerned. Spurs didn’t have Kane at his top level last season and was injured numerous time. You could easily say Spurs was without their best player as well after looking at his performance and games missed. Pochettino was the main difference between what Spurs accomplished last season and the quality of football on display at Chelsea at the moment.
Kepa = Lloris(?)
Azpilicueta - Alderweireld(Verthognhen) - Christiansen(Rudiger) - Alonso = Rose
Kante - N’Dombele
Odoi - Eriksen - Son
Kane
A lot could actually.
Huh, so why do they look like absolute strangers on the bench? He’s rarely discussing anything with anyone
Hudson Odoi - we can all see, but yeah agree with you on Loftus Cheek. Seems to be amazingly hyped up though.
Can't say I've noticed that so far, I'll take your word for it.
Europa League, you are the defending champion of it. Twice even.
It's an massive drain on the league campaign. When we easily won the league under Conte, not having so many midweek games was a huge benefit.
#LampardOut trending on Twitter. Roman manager #15 incoming.
Battered by a top 4 rival now held at home by a top 6 rival
Not looking good
Not looking good
The 4-2-3-1 formation is killing us. Can be easily exposed. How many times did Leicester bypass the midfield with 2 or 3 passes and went through on goal. Also don’t understand Lamps obsession with an attacking mid, that is so 2012. Game has moved on man ! Despite the goal, I thought Mount was poor, looked out of depth sometimes.
I like Abraham, but he’s not meant for this level.
Azpilicueta was shocking. His legs might be done. Sad to see him fall off a cliff so quick.
Don’t get me started on Willian. My God
Why isn't he starting Michy?? He may have his deficiencies but he's still a great finisher, better than Giroud and Abraham imo. I fear for Chelsea against Norwich. Imagine the scenes if they don't come away with a win?
spurs have the better team in terms of attacking creativity... yes. you take kante out of that chelsea team and they truly are fked. chelsea needs to get back to buying players
no chance of them competing for the league. they need to get back to spending the $$$. and let the manager buy the players of course.
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Not great start. Always going to be very difficult putting in a new system after Sarri and without Hazard though.
I think playing youngsters untried in the premier league, or any top league and selling Luiz smacks of overconfidence though.
Second half today will have been big wake up call. Lampard got lot of work to do.
I think playing youngsters untried in the premier league, or any top league and selling Luiz smacks of overconfidence though.
Second half today will have been big wake up call. Lampard got lot of work to do.
Leicester game also summed up Jorginho.
One of the most boring and pointless central midfielders I can remember being in the Prem. Sideways, sideways, sideways... andddd then go missing whenever an opposition midfield puts real pressure on you.
One of the most boring and pointless central midfielders I can remember being in the Prem. Sideways, sideways, sideways... andddd then go missing whenever an opposition midfield puts real pressure on you.
I only saw chelse v man utd and liverpool and thought there is a lot of potential. Frank has a lot of work to do to steady the ship and get them winning again before theyve lost the season before it starts. At least they will be able to concentrate on the cl league if these results continue.
True that. I’d have preferred us to have capitulated properly last season and finish outside of a Europa spot.
Sometimes you have to just take a season or two to regroup, and the Europa is a pain in the rectum schedule wise during that period.
As an oppo and just an normal guy I wouldn’t be wishing anyone bad luck, but all I can say is keep up the work. It helps the cause!
I think you're putting too much effort trying to talk people into making rational posts right after a game. It's basically peek time for kneejerk right after a game.
I mean we're talking 2 games into the season and people have already decided who isn't going to make top 4 or top 8. This is the Caf where opinions swing with every results at the drop of a hat, that's all you need to know.
I personally think Chelsea is right there into that top 4 fight(lmao at Chelsea not making top 8
). They've been playing good football and if they carry their performances they should start getting results soon.Only issue is they run out of steam. My opinion is that Frank should have done a bit more or peraps a lot more fitness work if he wanted to adopt such a high octane pressing style he's trying to do. Chelsea start at 100 miles an hour then tail off due to fatigue which wouldn't be that much of an issue if fitness were higher.
Either that or they start managing their game. Cool off on the ultra pressing, the players just aren't fit enough to carry that type of game for a full 90 minutes.
The good news for Chelsea is that they've been creating chances which is what important and also means they'll start getting results. The bad news is if Chelsea get another bad result, the Caf will collectively come to the conclusion that Chelsea will get relegated
Lampard sack watch, not a chance for him to arrive in October
I think you're putting too much effort trying to talk people into making rational posts right after a game. It's basically peek time for kneejerk right after a game.
I mean we're talking 2 games into the season and people have already decides who isn't going to make top 4 or top 8. This is the Caf where opinions swing with every results at the drop of a hat, that's all you need to know.
I personally think Chelsea is right there into that top 4 fight(lmao at Chelsea not making top 8
Only issue is they run out of steam. My opinion is that Frank should have done a bit more or peraps a lot more fitness work if he wanted to adopt such a high octane pressing style he's trying to do. Chelsea start at 100 miles an hour then tail of due to fatigue which wouldn't be that much of an issue of fitness were higher.
Either that or they start managing their game. Cool off on the ultra pressing, the players just aren't fit enough to carry that type of game for a full 90 minutes.
That's the thing. I think they will run out of steam, especially when the cup games kick in. They just need a couple of injuries and they're royally fecked. They really should be getting some credit in the bank for when those lean times come along. But dropping 5 points already which they will never get back before even getting going is why people are getting jittery.
How much would you like to bet?
I don't think he fits this Chelsea team. I saw a compilation of Jorginho's passes in 2016/17 and 2017/18 and they were great. He was pinging some lovely balls to Mertens, Insigne, Callejon etc.
He has quality but it's not really working out so far at Chelsea.
For 15 minutes they were brilliant. Looked like a cricket score. Then they fell off.
Leicster unlucky to not have won.
Leicster unlucky to not have won.