Can anyone be certain if Israel will not vote in extreme right wing loons any time in the future?
Jordan next please.
Jordan next please.
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1. If you believe some of the crap that's been posted on here, we already have.
2. Since Israel has been holding democratic elections for over 60 years now you could have a pretty good idea of the balance of political power here.
Good luck
No more egypt/israel/pali chat please guys.. major events happening. we could be witnessing history today
Thanks for you all for your support
Thanks for you all for your support
Hats off Avatar, hope Suleiman will call an election soon.
All speculation at the moment
True, but that doesn't prevent the extreme right from potentially getting bits of its agenda implemented in return for supplying a handful of votes to the government. That's where the true balance of power lies.
Israeli politics is fiendishly complicated, and much more murky (to me) now than it was even just 5 years ago. I would not hazard a guess to the outcome of an election, and put money on it, much less the evolution of future Israeli peace policy.
Sulaiman is not in power too it seems. news since yesterday of conflict between him and the army.. I would love that. TV shots just now showed the Army meeting with neither Mubarak nor Soliman anywhere to be seen. Most of us here are worried of Sulaiman and his latest words past weeks were provocative. he threatened us implicitly yesterday and he said to Amanpour that Egypt was not ready for democracy 2 days ago
Only problem now is the army may want to cling to power or will they work for a civil democratic state. Either way, the people are not gullible nor passive anymore. we will continue what we started god's willing
I heard he may not even be in the mix, with the army likely to tap one of their own. Not sure.
Best of luck regarding tonight.
Oh and what happened to about half a dozen of my posts
Oh and what happened to about half a dozen of my posts
feckin' teaser !!!
News that his speech is live not recorded and that he may transfer power to Solaiman. I don't want both !!!
News that his speech is live not recorded and that he may transfer power to Solaiman. I don't want both !!!
Again, I don't want to go off topic, but the extremists have limited power because a national unity coalition (Likud/Kadima/Labour) is an alternative to whatever adventurous policies the loons may want to promote.
Future Israeli peace policy brings us back on topic. If MB influence becomes substantial in the post-Mubarak era regarding the peace treaty I can't see Israel handing a square inch to Arab hands. Moreover, with a fragile regime in Jordan feeling the heat, a possible direct route from Iran through Iraq and a Palestinian trans-Jordan to Israel will make Israel reluctant of giving up any land west of the river Jordan.
2 hours later we are still waiting for Mubarak...
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WOAH... The mods need to look into this... it appears that at least 6 posts vanished. HLR, did you not appreciate my Democracy review of our nations?
Obama on now
3 sentences by Pres. Obama... he didn't say much other than ''blah blah history unfolding...' ... praised the young people of Egypt.
For your listening pleasure in the meantime:
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*Someone deleted my earlier posts... but that's ok.. good news ahead....
WOAH... The mods need to look into this... it appears that at least 6 posts vanished. HLR, did you not appreciate my Democracy review of our nations?
Obama on now
3 sentences by Pres. Obama... he didn't say much other than ''blah blah history unfolding...' ... praised the young people of Egypt.
Damn it up just realized Naguib Mahfouz is dead, I was looking to see if he was writing something about this haha, guess not.
Sky are reporting this.
Soft Military Coup Takes Place In Egypt.
What the hell is a soft coup?
Sorry if this sound stupid but I don't understand , theere has either been a coup or not.
Soft Military Coup Takes Place In Egypt.
What the hell is a soft coup?
Sorry if this sound stupid but I don't understand , theere has either been a coup or not.
I belive no bullets fired
ahh right I understand that , cheers.
It's a constitutional provision or better yet revision to bridge the gap in the transition to a democracy of the people... from what the anchors are saying... but nobody is absolutely sure what's going on.
...I gotta say Leon Panetta has done good, today. I know I don't always have a glowing review of what his dept. does, but today is a win if this all comes off the way it looks like it might.
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Oh, no... this isn't sounding very good.
Mubarak is making a live statement. It should be clear what direction the situation is going to take within just a few minutes.
Mubarak does not get it... shocking that what looks like a million people in the streets at 11pm is a sign that he needs to start packing his bags.
So basically after the media hype there's nothing new
It's incredible how wrong the media got this. It seemed a certainty that he was going to step aside.
Can't see the protesters liking this.
the protests could turn violent now.
more violent I mean. Not good.
more violent I mean. Not good.
Is this guy mad , does he not know when he is not wanted.
Has B9 said this could turn really nasty now , the protester's will not like this.
The next 24 hours are going to be tense in Cairo
Has B9 said this could turn really nasty now , the protester's will not like this.
The next 24 hours are going to be tense in Cairo
It's all kicking off
I have a question what side is the Army on , If Mubarak order's the Army to clear the square will they do it ?
Or I am being to simplistic.
Or I am being to simplistic.
Ladies and Gentlemen::
May I present to you the most feckin' deluded clown the history of humanity
marching to state tv building and presidential palace will be soon this way..very soon
May I present to you the most feckin' deluded clown the history of humanity
marching to state tv building and presidential palace will be soon this way..very soon
Brilliant move by the protesters... they have a choice of marching on the Palace or State TV... If they march on the Palace, Mubarak will slaughter them.... but they are marching towards the State TV building... any successful revolt takes over the media... smart group these protesters.
FFS.
Mubarak is the greatest WUM in the Middle East. With a statement like, "all your wishes will be answered", you can't possibly blame the media or the protesters for believing he might actually concede defeat.
Mubarak is the greatest WUM in the Middle East. With a statement like, "all your wishes will be answered", you can't possibly blame the media or the protesters for believing he might actually concede defeat.
people want the army to intervene now or we're taking it in our hands
Already thousands surrounding the State Tv building
Also hear thousands are marching to Heliopolis, that's where the presidential palace is
Also hear thousands are marching to Heliopolis, that's where the presidential palace is
And all this for 6 more months of power.
6 more months to consolidate existing power, pull strings, call in favors, et cetera, possibly with the aim of manufacturing some further "emergency" that requires him to stay in power forever.
Maybe he's just buying himself some time to get out of the country safely. Actually announcing that he's about to step down would leave him very vulnerable.
How long is he planning to live? He's already 82. Can a man at that age still want more?! I'd go visit some places where old people like to hang out, like France, or go fishing. Instead of being locked up in a palace. How ridiculously boring!
It's like the octogenarian billionaires who think they need tax cuts. Being the sort of person who was willing to devote their entire life amassing that money/power/whatever is how they got to where they are in the first place. Giving it up to kick back and play some golf isn't in their makeup.
Could you imagine that this pretty much happened a hundred years ago in Russia.