So you reckon he'll give Bibi a call, and ask him to bomb some dilapidated structure somewhere, and then ask Syrians to unite against the Zionists....
It would be win-win for all concerned.
It would be win-win for all concerned.
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There is no need for this level of collaboration, BTV.
Hezbollah: We have evidence linking Israel to Hariri assassination - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
So basically it was in Israel's best interest to deliberately destabilize its neighbours (who are keeping in check internal radical elements hostile to Israel), and then this destabilization creates more problems for Israel in the long run and compromises Israel's security, and that's exactly what Israel wants? Makes sense.
I thought the potential collaboration would add to the intrigue. Assad doesn't have much else going for him.
These brutal dictators have been a real letdown for me - all this talk of thousands and thousands of people killed, decades of power, secret police, internal spying etc etc. Yet they are now, one after another being attacked at their very heart, and don't seem to be able to do much.
Avatar whats the situation at Cairo? Seems like the Egyptian Junta still bears remnants of the Mubarak tyranny.
Kicking off in Cairo
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Egypt's military police backed by armoured vehicles launch new assault on protesters in Tahrir square, Cairo. More soon BBC News - Home
BBCBreaking BBC Breaking News
Egypt's military police backed by armoured vehicles launch new assault on protesters in Tahrir square, Cairo. More soon BBC News - Home
Mubarak had to leave because it was in the army's best interests to refrain from shooting protesters. Had Mubarak kept his mouth shut, he may very well have survived. Gadaffi would have crushed his rebellion had NATO not intervened. Saleh is still leader in Yemen, the Bahrainis crushed their rebellion and Assad is on the verge of leading his country into civil war. All of them, at some point or another, brought in the military to mete our damage.
What are you expecting, cluster bombs and napalm in Cairo and Damascus?
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This is what it's all about.. I have no idea how it will fare out....it's a deadlock
Istanbul on the Nile | Foreign Affairs
Istanbul on the Nile | Foreign Affairs
Ali Abdullah Saleh, the president of Yemen, has arrived in Saudi Arabia to sign a Gulf power-transfer initiative brokered by the six-member Gulf Co-operation Council (GCC), the country's state television has reported.
"The president of the republic arrives safely to the airport of Riyadh to visit the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, following an invitation from the Saudi leadership, to attend the signing of the Gulf initiative," the station announced on Wednesday.
Saleh's visit came after the UN's Yemen envoy said on Tuesday that a deal aimed at ending months of political deadlock had been approved both by the opposition and by the president.
"All the parties have agreed to implement the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) initiative," envoy Jamal Benomar told reporters in the capital Sanaa.
However, Al Jazeera's special correspondent in Sanaa said that the opposition has been fragmented and it remained unclear what groups supported the deal.
“In the last hours, there was speculation as to whether the armed groups, rather than political groups, would be in on the signing, quite literally.
"On top of that, you have the students who started the protests and social activists that are still in Change Square, saying no matter the outcome of it, they will reject the signing because they weren’t involved.
"We also have rumors that people at the president’s own party have been pushing him not to sign it."
The plan put forward last spring by the GCC countries headed by Saudi Arabia offers Saleh and his relatives immunity from prosecution if he hands over power to his deputy, Vice President Abdrabuh Mansur Hadi.
Saleh has repeatedly promised to sign the deal, only to change his mind at the last second.
Saleh's continued refusal to sign the initiative has triggered months of political deadlock that has left the government in a state of chaos and the economy in shambles.
The political crisis has also exacerbated tensions on the street where tens of thousands of anti-government protesters have faced a brutal 10-month government crackdown that has left hundreds dead and thousands wounded.
The plan submitted by the six-nation GCC will effectively bring an end to Saleh's 33-year rule.
Yemen leader in Saudi for power-transfer deal - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
"The president of the republic arrives safely to the airport of Riyadh to visit the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, following an invitation from the Saudi leadership, to attend the signing of the Gulf initiative," the station announced on Wednesday.
Saleh's visit came after the UN's Yemen envoy said on Tuesday that a deal aimed at ending months of political deadlock had been approved both by the opposition and by the president.
"All the parties have agreed to implement the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) initiative," envoy Jamal Benomar told reporters in the capital Sanaa.
However, Al Jazeera's special correspondent in Sanaa said that the opposition has been fragmented and it remained unclear what groups supported the deal.
“In the last hours, there was speculation as to whether the armed groups, rather than political groups, would be in on the signing, quite literally.
"On top of that, you have the students who started the protests and social activists that are still in Change Square, saying no matter the outcome of it, they will reject the signing because they weren’t involved.
"We also have rumors that people at the president’s own party have been pushing him not to sign it."
The plan put forward last spring by the GCC countries headed by Saudi Arabia offers Saleh and his relatives immunity from prosecution if he hands over power to his deputy, Vice President Abdrabuh Mansur Hadi.
Saleh has repeatedly promised to sign the deal, only to change his mind at the last second.
Saleh's continued refusal to sign the initiative has triggered months of political deadlock that has left the government in a state of chaos and the economy in shambles.
The political crisis has also exacerbated tensions on the street where tens of thousands of anti-government protesters have faced a brutal 10-month government crackdown that has left hundreds dead and thousands wounded.
The plan submitted by the six-nation GCC will effectively bring an end to Saleh's 33-year rule.
Yemen leader in Saudi for power-transfer deal - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
Good article by Seamus Milne, well worth a read:
Egypt has halted the drive to derail the Arab revolution | Seumas Milne | Comment is free | The Guardian
Egypt has halted the drive to derail the Arab revolution | Seumas Milne | Comment is free | The Guardian
Egypt Elections: Turmoil In Tahrir Square Casts Pall Over Ruling Military Regime, An American Ally
getting really bad in Egypt...
getting really bad in Egypt...
Islamists are taking over the parliament in Egypt...and not just the MB , the hardliner Salafis are making unexpected gains.
Egypt
Early returns from the Egyptian elections leave no doubt that Islamist parties are winning by a landslide. The Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) has apparently received 40-45 percent of the vote, with another 20-25 percent going to the hardline Salafi al-Nour party. Elections have so far been held in only nine of Egypt’s 27 governorates, but there is no reason to believe that results of the next two rounds, scheduled respectively for mid-December and early January, will be substantially different.
Democracy's a bitch aint it 
The Muslim Brotherhood won't get a free pass to rule as they wish, the sizeable secular opposition would prove a natural buffer to that.
The Muslim Brotherhood won't get a free pass to rule as they wish, the sizeable secular opposition would prove a natural buffer to that.
From my friend Syrian_Scholes in the newbs.
Haven't watched it yet, not on a computer capable of doing so.
Haven't watched it yet, not on a computer capable of doing so.
Interesting how these authoritarian dictators delusionally believe that doing TV interviews somehow helps their cause. This sort of blatant lying on serves to fuel further public rage and expedite their demise.
Why are his ears so pointy? The interviewer should have put that question to him. Never trust a man with pointy ears.
syrian_scholes said:
syrian_scholes said:
From Syrian_Scholes. Sorry I don't have time to say something clever
I've already been debating this him via PM so I'll just echo what I've said:
1) Why is it that my source is 'full of lies'? Its a well-researched article written by a private investigative journalist who traveled to Syria and reported his findings. And using Sky News of all networks isn't exactly a convincing argument...
2) The undeniable fact that these rebels are being backed by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and radical elements that wish for Syria follow their footsteps in becoming a backwards Islamic state. Add to that the hypocrisy of the Arab league expelling Syria while ignoring the atrocities committed by the regimes of Yemen and Bahrain They're also of course being championed by the west since Syria is an ally of Iran. And of course there's no mention in the media of the atrocities committed by them - mass killing of pro-assad supporters, decapitations and brutal executions of soldiers and police, ignoring the fact how a bulk of hospital casualties are also mostly comprised of soldiers and police.
3) The huge pro-Assad rallies which of course isn't reported anywhere in the mainstream media, since they've decided that they rather Assad bugger off for a more compliant puppet who isn't pro-Iran. Here's a few said rallies:
1) Why is it that my source is 'full of lies'? Its a well-researched article written by a private investigative journalist who traveled to Syria and reported his findings. And using Sky News of all networks isn't exactly a convincing argument...
2) The undeniable fact that these rebels are being backed by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and radical elements that wish for Syria follow their footsteps in becoming a backwards Islamic state. Add to that the hypocrisy of the Arab league expelling Syria while ignoring the atrocities committed by the regimes of Yemen and Bahrain They're also of course being championed by the west since Syria is an ally of Iran. And of course there's no mention in the media of the atrocities committed by them - mass killing of pro-assad supporters, decapitations and brutal executions of soldiers and police, ignoring the fact how a bulk of hospital casualties are also mostly comprised of soldiers and police.
3) The huge pro-Assad rallies which of course isn't reported anywhere in the mainstream media, since they've decided that they rather Assad bugger off for a more compliant puppet who isn't pro-Iran. Here's a few said rallies:
If you wanna feel sick and discusted just watch adunia channel.
From Syrian Scholes
English language documentaries that I'm guessing are alright.
Next step, the ICC.
So it's not just unsubstantiated claims and dodgy YouTube clips anymore, eh? The West should be ashamed for letting this happen, while going ape shit to "help the Lybian people".
What could "the West" have done without a security council resolution, which Libya had. Its Russia and China who deserve 100% of the blame here.
Can't remember whether you waited for Russia and China's backing prior to the Iraq and Balkans campaigns.
There was no need to wait then, as both were carried out under legal frameworks of existing UN Resolutions.
Resolution 1441 stating that Iraq was in material breach of Resolution 687 (the original Gulf War surrender) was passed by the UN in 2002.
I'm sure the UN has passed a resolution, and perhaps even has it in its charter, that it should prevent genocides and mass civilian murder. If it can't carry out its duty it should be scrapped.
I think there are some legal ways to navigate around a security council veto - the Genocide angle being one of them. Russia and China are quite obviously concerned that Syria going the way of Libya may embolden reform movements in their own countries.
Happy navigation. Syrians are being let down and left to be butchered because powerful democracies let Russian and Chinese dictators call the shots for them.
Scrap the useless UN.