It's a terrible injury but you gotta be kidding with that.It's not like he has to be amputated or something
Aaron Ramsey
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It's a terrible injury but you gotta be kidding with that.It's not like he has to be amputated or something
How do you know?
Sorry, I thought you were on about an earlier tackle. I didn't see the later one.
Whilst watching the match my first impression it was never a red. I've not seen anything since to change my mind.
Bad luck for the kid.
Bad luck for the kid.
Ahahaha.
You've finally snapped, Christofaux. This is the point at which you went insane.
You think that there's even the slightest possibility that Aaron Ramsey, victim of an albeit horrible broken leg but one that countless other people will suffer every week, will need to have his leg aputated? Seriously?
Who the feck knows eh?
Im more referring to people commenting on the severity of it then when they have no idea.
Say you knew someone who was a very promising guitar player who was tipped to break onto the scene and really show his talent when aged 19 he suffered an injury that could potntially put all that in jepordy, or saying it did? i can safely say if that happened to anyone i know id be devestated for them, robbing someone of thier one chance at a career very few get to attempt is seriously sad. I know world wide its nothing and things like this happen to people all the time but within his and his team mates personal world it is more than distressing.
Has there been any images of the injury anywhere or are just speculating on the extent of the injury?
You don't amputate people for a broken leg, at least not for one like Ramsey's.I don't need to be a doctor to tell you that Christofaux
How do you know what impact it will have on his career?
Quite horrific
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I'm not saying he shouldn't be distressed, I'm taking umbridge at the fact people are implying I should be. As if offering my sympathies for a nasty injury is not enough, and I should be grieving for the poor lad.
No. But for someone who's tipped to have a glittering career and now that it hangs in the balance, its rather bad.
Its how you choose to look at it really. The odds of such freak incidents happening on a football pitch are low, so its tough on any player who gets at the wrong end of it. Especially when they work all their lives towards it. As it may be with any profession in the world.
Its really a personal point of view. You can choose to look at life, the bigger picture et al and say its still not that bad but for some people it may be and I can understand that.
That's nasty, the poor sod.
I didn't say anything about the impact on his career.
That does not look good from that angle, looks like his studs got caught in the turf therefore there was very little give.
No matter. The original comment was that it "can't get any worse than this" for a kid of 19. It was a silly but fairly innocuous comment, doesn't really deserve this debate.
The person you replied to was.
fecking hell, that looks worse then eduardo's
Count Duckula, I've broken my leg and played for 40 more minutes thinking I'd just bruised it! This kind of injury, what appears to be a compound fracture of both lower leg bones from the photos, is far more horrific than the rather generic "broken leg" you say many people suffer every day. It comes down to the terminology -- we tend to say broken leg to cover everything from a tiny hairline fracture to this kind of compound fracture. Check this out:
Bone fracture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Although, I do agree with you to an extent that this isn't like someone finding out they have cancer or AIDS, it's still shattering for the lad himself (not to mention traumatic for the witnesses, don't underestimate that), as right now he probably doesn't know whether he'll have a career in football. I mean, remember David Busst, right?
One more thought, though: why do the TV people think they have the right to make the decision not to show the injury? I know that there are kids watching, but you can always announce the replay with a strong disclaimer, so the rest of us adults can make, uh, an adult decision whether we want to watch it. Just seems stuffy and matronly for them to make the call, as if they know what's best for all of us.
Anyway, I hope the lad makes a full recovery.
Bone fracture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Although, I do agree with you to an extent that this isn't like someone finding out they have cancer or AIDS, it's still shattering for the lad himself (not to mention traumatic for the witnesses, don't underestimate that), as right now he probably doesn't know whether he'll have a career in football. I mean, remember David Busst, right?
One more thought, though: why do the TV people think they have the right to make the decision not to show the injury? I know that there are kids watching, but you can always announce the replay with a strong disclaimer, so the rest of us adults can make, uh, an adult decision whether we want to watch it. Just seems stuffy and matronly for them to make the call, as if they know what's best for all of us.
Anyway, I hope the lad makes a full recovery.
Ouch!
That looks horrible. Here's hoping the kid recovers fully from the injury.
That looks horrible. Here's hoping the kid recovers fully from the injury.
Really depressing injuries are ones like these high school kids suffering paralysis from neck injuries playing gridiron football. Or that top rated US hockey player on his first shift in his fresman year breaking his neck. They're lives and futures are severely interupted. Ramsey will probably be back in a year, granted he may never reach the threshold he's picked to reach, but he's not going to die or lose his leg or be paralyzed (unless he develops a staff infection or whatnot).
Oh ok thats fair enough, sorry i thought you were implying the players themselves etc... shouldnt be overly bothered.
They probably figure if people want to see it they will find a way (i.e internet) and its safer for them not to show it.
So what ?
Professionally this is as bad as it gets. I mean what worse can happen for a footballer. As I have already said, considering the odds of such incidents happening, whichever player is at the recieving end of it, comes out worst PROFESSIONALLY.
Again, it is as bad as it gets for him Professionally. Should have included the word professionally in my original post, but I thought it was rather obvious I was implying that.
Again, it is as bad as it gets for him Professionally. Should have included the word professionally in my original post, but I thought it was rather obvious I was implying that.
No, really, professionally it can get a lot worse.
Do tell how.
feck that's sickening. Hopefully he can make a full recovery.
Tbh like Christofaux said or implied we don't know the full extent now so we can't say if it's the worst thing happening to him professionally or not yet
Apart from the obvious.
I feel a bit bad for pointing this out but really there is no need for such hyperbole.
Having to retire because of heart problems?
Actually losing a limb a la Dario Silva?
Suffering a fractured skull that could have almost killed you?
Dying?
Personally, and this may just be me, but I reckon your career takes a bigger hit if you die than if you break a leg. Again, just my take on things.
Yeah, I suppose. Not that I actually wanted to see it, even, it's just the principle. Those photos are far too much for my stomach!
I'm going to preface this by saying that is a horrible injury and that I wish Ramsey all the best in his recovery.
But these are the one type of horrific injury that occurs reasonably regularly in football. I was very disappointed to see Wenger and Fabregas implying that Stoke or any other club intends to hurt Arsenal players. That Arsenal deserve special treatment, Wenger described the tackle as horrendous/ horrific, it wasn't, unfortunately the consequences were. But that's the important word. Unfortunate.
No doubt the reply will be that they were emotional, very upset and so should be excused for saying ridiculous things about their treatment from referees and the nature of opposing players. But if I remember correctly Arsenal were praised for grinding out the result, praised that they had learned to deal with these situations, that they didn't let it affect them on the pitch. As that was the case, it is inexcusable for Wenger particuarly, to make the remarks he did. He should have learned from last time.
I would like to think that most managers would have said, it's awful for Ramsey, but I don't blame Shawcross, you could see how distraught the lad was. But Wenger sadly couldn't do that.
So to finish, best wishes to Ramsey, but I thought Wenger's remarks were not acceptable, Fabregas less so, but he also said that they don;t moan normall when they get kicked?? and I'm sure they both didn't condemn Gallas for that tackle earlier in the season. The implications made against Stoke and Shawcross should be condemned.
But these are the one type of horrific injury that occurs reasonably regularly in football. I was very disappointed to see Wenger and Fabregas implying that Stoke or any other club intends to hurt Arsenal players. That Arsenal deserve special treatment, Wenger described the tackle as horrendous/ horrific, it wasn't, unfortunately the consequences were. But that's the important word. Unfortunate.
No doubt the reply will be that they were emotional, very upset and so should be excused for saying ridiculous things about their treatment from referees and the nature of opposing players. But if I remember correctly Arsenal were praised for grinding out the result, praised that they had learned to deal with these situations, that they didn't let it affect them on the pitch. As that was the case, it is inexcusable for Wenger particuarly, to make the remarks he did. He should have learned from last time.
I would like to think that most managers would have said, it's awful for Ramsey, but I don't blame Shawcross, you could see how distraught the lad was. But Wenger sadly couldn't do that.
So to finish, best wishes to Ramsey, but I thought Wenger's remarks were not acceptable, Fabregas less so, but he also said that they don;t moan normall when they get kicked?? and I'm sure they both didn't condemn Gallas for that tackle earlier in the season. The implications made against Stoke and Shawcross should be condemned.
Yes, but by the looks of it potentially can be. Which is all I said really. I dont see what the debate is about.
Fair fecks to people who choose to see the bigger picture and all. But for people who dont, think its rather fair too.
Quite horrific
good on you for putting it in a spoiler. I didn't watch the game and definitely, i don't want to watch it especially when i'm going to bed. From what i've read, it's a horrific injury and him being a promising young player only deepens the agony of it. I hope he recovers soon and regains complete fitness and be able to go on and become a fantastic player.
For someone who missed it, what did Wenger say?
I think what's making this disturbing is seeing the visual effect. To be fair, if Aaron pulled up like Anderson I doubt we'd be even having a debate. In fact I'm pretty sure as rival fans we would have even welcomed Arsenal losing his services for the season.