Aaron Ramsey

:lol: You mean you have no better answer because you realise your self-contradictions are making you look totally stupid. Unfortunately for you, I understand your words better than you do yourself.

No champion, i spelt it out exaclty what I meant. Your story of granny driving shawcross was fecken stupid.
 
No champion, i spelt it out exaclty what I meant. Your story of granny driving shawcross was fecken stupid.

No it wasn't and no it wasn't even a granny simile. It's just that you tried to change it to have no resemblance to the fact of what actually happened. I can't help it if you're struggling with simple concepts.

With Gallas in mind, would you answer me the following simple question. I'm sure even you will understand the words as I'm keeping them simple for you.


Which is worse:

A. A player going for a 50-50 ball who is a fraction slower than the opponent and catches him.

B. A player who deliberately targets high up on an opponent's leg with his studs well after the ball is played.

Just answer A or B please.
 
No it wasn't and no it wasn't even a granny simile. It's just that you tried to change it to have no resemblance to the fact of what actually happened. I can't help it if you're struggling with simple concepts.

With Gallas in mind, would you answer me the following simple question. I'm sure even you will understand the words as I'm keeping them simple for you.


Which is worse:

A. A player going for a 50-50 ball who is a fraction slower than the opponent and catches him.

B. A player who deliberately targets high up on an opponent's leg with his studs well after the ball is played.

Just answer A or B please.


B.

but B is not what Gallas did you fecken bellend.
 
Perhaps the rules should be changed so Arsenal players don't have to face these incredibly nasty tackles by men that are just horrible meanies.

So its settled, a rule stating Arsenal will play Liverpool every week next season. Excellent, always wanted a perfect 38-0-0 record.
 
That's exactly he did in that recent incident where Arsenal didn't even get a free kick against them (and if my memory serves me right led to an Arsenal goal). By the way, resorting to personal insults is a sure way of showing that you know your argument is wrong.

No its not, take a look at at the video, Davies slides in to get the ball and Gallas' foot is exactly where the ball was. So perhaps its your lack of facts that proves you are, in fact, wrong.

You talk of personal insults when your whole previous post was an attempt at a personal insult.
 
Now who has no argument eh? ;)

Alright you win - fast is slow, slow is fast, ban people who dare get to the ball before an Arsenal player, ban people who get to the ball after an Arsenal player, ban accidents, praise malicious fouls.

You're trying to bring me down to your level and I'm going to quit now before I get there. :D
 
Alright you win - fast is slow, slow is fast, ban people who dare get to the ball before an Arsenal player, ban people who get to the ball after an Arsenal player, ban accidents, praise malicious fouls.

You're trying to bring me down to your level and I'm going to quit now before I get there. :D


Seriously, can you get quotes in my posts where i say fast is slow and slow is fast, ban people who dare get to the ball before an Arsenal player and ban people who get to the ball after an Arsenal player. Also find where i said Gallas' challenge wasn't a foul.

Then i might start taking you seriously.
 
No its not, take a look at at the video, Davies slides in to get the ball and Gallas' foot is exactly where the ball was. So perhaps its your lack of facts that proves you are, in fact, wrong.

You talk of personal insults when your whole previous post was an attempt at a personal insult.
That does not matter. Nani got sent off the exact same or less worse tackle than that on Villa Park and he even got the ball first which Gallas did not. You can not lunge in like that with studs showing even if you are trying to go for the ball.

Regardless I have no idea how everyone is making sure shot judgments on this incident. With the video or pics going around it is impossible to tell how high the tackle was, only thing clear is that he went in with lot of force.
 
That does not matter. Nani got sent off the exact same or less worse tackle than that on Villa Park and he even got the ball first which Gallas did not. You can not lunge in like that with studs showing even if you are trying to go for the ball.

Regardless I have no idea how everyone is making sure shot judgments on this incident. With the video or pics going around it is impossible to tell how high the tackle was, only thing clear is that he went in with lot of force.

And that is all i've said on the incident.

It honestly looks like Gallas has no idea Davies is about to nick the ball from under him, not that it makes it any better, its still studs on the ankle.
 
You don't get football do you?

Shawcross barely deserved a yellow. Even the ref said he wouldn't have booked him if it wasn't for the injury.

You honestly can't believe the challenge was malicious, I mean that would be a stretch considering it was not even dangerous, just extremely unlucky.
Watching the highlights of the game, the ref called for a foul and looked to be getting on with the game without thinking too much about the challenge. Once he saw the extent of the injury, he showed the red card.
 
If, as it seems, PL managers have collectively decided that the best tactic against Arsenal is to 'rough them up' then it seems obvious to me that the average number of injuries sustained by Arsenal over any given period in the league is going to be higher than that of other teams. That goes for serious injuries too so I, for one, am not surprised that they've suffered these 3 injuries in 5 years.

I don't think Shawcross did it on purpose - of course he didn't - but these injuries would seem to undeniably be a side effect of the general approach used to play Arsenal. Watching United/Arsenal games, it's perfectly obvious that we adopt a similarly 'physical' approach.

To deny this is pretty senseless in my opinion. I also have a lot of sympathy for Wenger - he's only pointing out what I have above which seems perfectly fair to me.

nothing wrong with getting up in them. until they can prove to handle it why shouldn't they be hit physically? this isn't fecking la liga.

teams don't try to man handle us and chelsea even though we can dominate possession essentially as well as arsenal at times...that's because chelsea and us can handle the tackles. if we go soft and teams get up in amongst us, then i will blame us for going soft not for teams to be overly physical. the premiership is a fecking long war out there, no quarter given. either you handle it or you can feck off.
 
im a bit suprised that peterstorey is making this much of an issue about physical play when he chooses to name himself after one of english football's all time so-called 'hard men'.
 
B.

but B is not what Gallas did you fecken bellend.

The Gallas tackle is the worst I've seen from any player this season.

Basically, Wenger needs to shut his mouth and grow the feck up. Perhaps if he did your team might actually stand a chance of doing the same?
 
If you drive too fast in a built up area or without due care and attention and total someone no one claims it was intentional but it's still manslaughter.

That's what manslaughter means. It's killing someone with no intent and it being and accident. Otherwise it'll be murder of a certain degree.
Doesn't matter how fast you're going either.
 
If you drive too fast in a built up area or without due care and attention and total someone no one claims it was intentional but it's still manslaughter.

The clear difference being this is a football game, not a court of law. Poor analogy.
 
Anyone remember - I think Nasri - attempting to break Nani?

Hypocrisy is a terrible thing.
 
Has Nani got a broken leg? Well shut the feck up then.

So what you're saying is these situations should be judged on the outcome, rather than the intent or the action itself?
 
If you're speeding you get fined, if you're speeding and hurt someone it's much more serious. Unlucky? Yes. Unfair? Maybe. If it's good enough to be law of the land.........

That said the Arsenal supporters seem to have lost the plot and are acting like kids.
 
So what you're saying is these situations should be judged on the outcome, rather than the intent or the action itself?

Exactly, it's ridiculous. If someone goes in badly on someone then it should be punished regardless of the outcome. If we have to wait for a broken leg to start dishing out severe punishment then something is seriously wrong.
 
Has Nani got a broken leg? Well shut the feck up then.

The fact is Nasri's challenge was intentionally much worse than Shawcross, as Nasri evidently didn't care whether he got the ball or not, he just wanted to stop Nani at any cost.