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Hopefully the break he gets now will help him in our run of important matches after international break (Liverpool away, City home and Everton away).
 
His passing has gone hill since the Arsenal game. Really pissed me off with his passing today.
 
Yep another poor performance but he seriously does not have a partner in midfield. Fletcher looks like the kid in the school team trying to avoid the ball, which really does not help. I know I keep repeating after each game but Anderson also keeps getting slated which obviously is partly his fault but not totally. He did get a very crucial goal
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4 goals in his last 7 matches at OT. He's a goal scoring machine

Oh and absolutely dreadful today but I'm sure he'll be fine once he's got Cleverley next to him again.
 
I was shocked he came out for the second half. Even more so he was not replaced with Giggs. The goal masked a pathetic performance.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Getting quite a few nominations in the MOTM thread. What the actual feck?!?
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You really have to wonder what game some of these people were watching.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Getting quite a few nominations in the MOTM thread. What the actual feck?!?

Horrible performance today. Not at the races. Oh well.
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Well, neither of our players exactly covered themselves in glory. The goal alone elevates Anderson above Fletcher, Rooney, Nani, Hernández, Park... well, basically, everyone. I can see why he would be nominated after such a piss poor all round performance.

Evra was probably our best player and he wasn't that good...
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The old "it's Fletcher's fault Anderson can't pass the ball straight and fecking WALKS round the pitch" theory. Aye, that makes a whole lot of sense.
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Think that's only because of the goal. He had an horrendous match. I don't know why/how Fletch contributed to it as he was the same against Basle(or Basil as G. Nev puts it) when partnered with Carrick.
 
I wonder sometimes if it's a little bit mental with this guy. If lots of fans think that he performs better with Cleverley maybe he does too? Whether it's true or not is another thing but something like that can play on a players mind.
 
However he did surprise me with his header, didn't expect that out of him. Good to see that he was a little bit disappointed when taken off.
 
Anderson was good with Cleverley, shite with Fletcher or Carrick. Hence the "it's Fletcher's fault" theory.

It might be a case of putting two and two together and getting five but that's the thought process.
 
I haven't voted for MoTM but, I was considering where I would put him when he scored and if we ended up winning the match. He was dreadful but,a goal as crucial as that deserves a nod.

Strikers can do nothing all game and score the crucial goal and they'll get nominated, shouldn't be different for anyone else, if they chip in with a vital goal.
 
Siorac said:
Anderson was good with Cleverley, shite with Fletcher or Carrick. Hence the "it's Fletcher's fault" theory.

It might be a case of putting two and two together and getting five but that's the thought process.
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I really think that's a retarded theory.
 
Siorac said:
Well, neither of our players exactly covered themselves in glory. The goal alone elevates Anderson above Fletcher, Rooney, Nani, Hernández, Park... well, basically, everyone. I can see why he would be nominated after such a piss poor all round performance.

Evra was probably our best player and he wasn't that good...
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Jones saved a few goals single handedly. Giggs and Welbeck were the game changers. Had Anderson been only decent we'd have been a few goals ahead by half time.
 
Retarded is a strong word; Anderson certainly likes a partner who moves a lot and makes himself available and is capable of quick one-touch passes.

That he can't seem to adapt to other, different kind of partners is a failing of his though.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The old "it's Fletcher's fault Anderson can't pass the ball straight and fecking WALKS round the pitch" theory. Aye, that makes a whole lot of sense.
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I think with things not going well today he felt more pressure to try and force the issue and tried some passes which didn't really work out. He wasn't the only one today actually. Rooney in the first half couldn't get one pass right, Nani in the second half was the same and Fletcher was playing 1-2's with Nani and Hernandez where his passes were always just a little short. Anderson was very poor today but our whole team (Giggs apart) lost it's ability to pass to team mates today.

And Anderson - Fletcher rarely ever works tbh. Anderson Carrick was fantastic last year and Anderson Cleverley has been great this year but never Anderson Fletcher.
 
I can understanding people believing Cleverley makes a better partner for Anderson but to blame a poor performance of a player on another is plain silly. Do we think Rooney was so bad because of Hernandez? Anderson gave the ball away loads of times. What did that have to do with Fletcher? Sure, maybe Cleverley allows him to play to a new level (if you believe that) but it doesn't mean he should miss simple passes in his absence.

Anyway, at the same time I can understand naming his as the man of the match as well. Almost the whole team was poor and he popped up with what could be a crucial goal come the end of the season.
 
Sultan said:
Jones saved a few goals single handedly. Giggs and Welbeck were the game changers. Had Anderson been only decent we'd have been a few goals ahead by half time.
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Not if Rooney, Hernandez, Nani and Park had played at the same level. Anderson was poor, but so were they. Given how poor the rest were, Anderson being decent wouldn't have guaranteed anything. It's a team game and none of those players were decent.
 
Sultan said:
Jones saved a few goals single handedly. Giggs and Welbeck were the game changers. Had Anderson been only decent we'd have been a few goals ahead by half time.
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Jones was okay, his positioning could still be better but he's learning. His tendency to always attack the man with the ball is a bit annoying, it gifted Basel several chances; fortunately, Norwich did not have a strike partnership of similar quality.

Giggs had a half-decent corner, not really a game-changer, he did reasonably well for those 20 minutes or so. And Welbeck should have put the game to bed earlier, he missed an absolute sitter.
 
wr8_utd said:
I was even more shocked that Park wasn't taken off.
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Same here, when I saw Nani taken off and Park staying on... well, that was a WTF? moment comparable to the Basel game's Giggs-Park substitution.
 
wr8_utd said:
I was even more shocked that Park wasn't taken off.
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Park was better than Nani today and was our best attacking player today. Even Fergie agrees with me and that's why he was kept on instead of Nani and Hernandez.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I can understanding people believing Cleverley makes a better partner for Anderson but to blame a poor performance of a player on another is plain silly. Do we think Rooney was so bad because of Hernandez? Anderson gave the ball away loads of times. What did that have to do with Fletcher? Sure, maybe Cleverley allows him to play to a new level (if you believe that) but it doesn't mean he should miss simple passes in his absence.

Anyway, at the same time I can understand naming his as the man of the match as well. Almost the whole team was poor and he popped up with what could be a crucial goal come the end of the season.
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I didn't blame his poor performance on Fletcher. He's just seemed more comfortable when he's got Cleverley next to him who can pass the ball around pretty well.

And I can understand him being a MOTM option as well. Jones and Welbeck and maybe Evans apart everyone was rubbish today.
 
KM said:
Park was better than Nani today and was our best attacking player today. Even Fergie agrees with me and that's why he was kept on instead of Nani and Hernandez.
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Giggs was our best attacking player today and he barely played 30 minutes.

Nani was our only threat in the first half. What did Park do (apart from the assist) that made him our best threat?
 
Siorac said:
Jones was okay, his positioning could still be better but he's learning. His tendency to always attack the man with the ball is a bit annoying, it gifted Basel several chances; fortunately, Norwich did not have a strike partnership of similar quality.

Giggs had a half-decent corner, not really a game-changer, he did reasonably well for those 20 minutes or so. And Welbeck should have put the game to bed earlier, he missed an absolute sitter.
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Sorry, but this is now getting silly.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The old "it's Fletcher's fault Anderson can't pass the ball straight and fecking WALKS round the pitch" theory. Aye, that makes a whole lot of sense.
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It's always someone else's fault when a player starts playing poorly or stops being capable of passing the ball.
 
wr8_utd said:
Giggs was our best attacking player today and he barely played 30 minutes.

Nani was our only threat in the first half. What did Park do (apart from the assist) that made him our best threat?
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Nani was rubbish today. He wasn't a threat at all, looked lazy and uninterested. I still stand by the statement that Park was our best attacking player over the 90 mins. Probably the reason why our best play came from our left side in the first half and probably the reason why Fergie decided to sub Nani off instead of Park.
 
Fletcher does not deserve his starting place at all at the moment. He's been really really bad since returning. But blaming Andersons poor form on him is very silly.
 
I saw one part of the game where he started walking, and didn't actually seem to walk anywhere. I do wonder though if Fletchers tendancy to roam all over the pitch leave Ando a little alone in the middle at times. Unsure to attack or sit, I remember seeing earlier in the game that he was tracking runs in to our box and getting about, but going forward he seemed to just stroll.
 
KM said:
Nani was rubbish today. He wasn't a threat at all, looked lazy and uninterested. I still stand by the statement that Park was our best attacking player over the 90 mins. Probably the reason why our best play came from our left side in the first half and probably the reason why Fergie decided to sub Nani off instead of Park.
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This is silly statements. He absolutely did not. He clearly had a poor game like many other of our players but I didn't see anything that suggested he was and disinterested. Was Rooney disinterested? He was just as rubbish. Why Nani?
 
amolbhatia100 said:
This is silly statements. He absolutely did not. He clearly had a poor game like many other of our players but I didn't see anything that suggested he was and disinterested. Was Rooney disinterested? He was just as rubbish. Why Nani?
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Wr8 mentioned Nani, that's why I replied to him. I didn't single him out, he was just one of many(Rooney, Ando, Evra) who looked disinterested in the first half.
 
Every player looks disinterested when the tempo of our football is so fecking slow. Of course that might be down to the players being actually disinterested, I don't know.

Our sexy football at the start of the season was brilliant but it seems that if any member of the Nani-Cleverley-Anderson-Young-Rooney-Welbeck front six is absent, we cannot replicate that. Well, maybe Hernández on a good day can make up for his technical deficiencies with killer movement, like against Arsenal when he opened up a lot of space for the others.
 
KM said:
Wr8 mentioned Nani, that's why I replied to him. I didn't single him out, he was just one of many(Rooney, Ando, Evra) who looked disinterested in the first half.
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Ah alright. Guess I jumped the gun there. I still don't agree, though. Rooney seemed to be working hard. Nani was trying to take a lot of responsibility by getting on the ball and taking on his man. It just didn't seem to be working out for either (like the rest of the team).
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Ah alright. Guess I jumped the gun there. I still don't agree, though. Rooney seemed to be working hard. Nani was trying to take a lot of responsibility by getting on the ball and taking on his man. It just didn't seem to be working out for either (like the rest of the team).
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Exactly. Nani was anything but disinterested and was the only one who seemed to be trying to do something in the first half but unfortunately everyone was off form today.
 
Odd amount of stick he's getting from some people for today.

Just abot every United players was awful in the first half. The amount of times our entire team seemed to all be stood perfectly still when in possession was embarassing. I've never seen anything like it in a competitive PL game. Every player took about four touches before deciding what to do with it. A few times Hernandez shaped to make a run, and then didn't, but that was it.

In the second half I thought Anderson and Fletcher noticably upped the tempo and forced us to start moving more, though Fletcher still looks rusty as feck and was playing in some kind of time warp again. Anderson's cannon foot had also returned.

There's not much point moaning about Anderson anyway. He's played virtually every game this season and will continue to do so because we've given ourselves no choice. He's comfortable taking possession under pressure, Carrick and Fletcher aren't. When he inevitably gets injured we're fecked unless Cleverley develops at an unheard of rate. Scholes and Giggs can't keep bailing us out...one of them's already retired.
 
He looked no more comfortable receiving the ball under pressure than Fletcher did today. In fact, Fletcher played much better. Anderson just had a bad game. Don't think it's any more complicated than that.

For me, the only real worry is that the fitness issue seems to be rearing it's ugly head again. He could barely move faster than walking pace for most of the second half. Which is a real shame because he looked so much fitter a few weeks ago.
 
Seems like he is still not able to perform well on a consistant level. Hope he gets back to his best after the international break
 
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