I don't want to get into a vs debate either, but Nani is the more versatile player, yes. Valencia is a proper right winger!
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I don't want to get into a vs debate either, but Nani is the more versatile player, yes. Valencia is a proper right winger!
Very impressed with the way he's come back.
I can see what Weaste is saying, Tony V is a no nonsense knock it past yer man, get yer 'ead down whip it over type of winger which I think Rooney and Chicharito will thrive on.
Nani is very different but no less effective.
I can see what Weaste is saying, Tony V is a no nonsense knock it past yer man, get yer 'ead down whip it over type of winger which I think Rooney and Chicharito will thrive on.
Nani is very different but no less effective.
Which is what I'm saying. Is Nani a better "right winger" than Valencia? I don't know. But he's a better all round player playing "on the wings" than Valencia for sure. But as you said Valencia is a proper right winger and we've missed him big time, especially away from home.
I think it does when it comes to a choice between him and Valencia.
But we all know he plays better on the right?!!
No coincidence he's had his best season ever... playing on the right. Have a think about that.
On the right. Nani can play on the left!
I just can't wait to see them both play together on either wing.
It's interesting how you appreciate something so much more once its been gone
It's interesting how you appreciate something so much more once its been gone
I think this is what it is with Valencia. He is completely devoid of emotion. He never seems to smile and rarely loses his temper, even when fouled. He just gets on with it in an almost robotic fashion.
You just feel that he's going to do the right thing when he's on the ball and not get sucked into the moment and try something silly.
I don't think he can anywhere near as effective on the left. His advantage is that Giggs cannot play all the time but if Cleverley comes back next season and if we make investment in someone else with a left foot in consideration of Giggs's age...
I think that Nani's just going to have to battle it out with Valencia on the right and I think Ferguson will prefer Valencia there more often than not.
Yup. Nani will be brilliant either side. And valencias involvement should allow nani more space instead of being double marked all the time.
Imagine as defender seeing nani go off only to be replaced by valencia
No need to start a crusade for Valencia over Nani. We all appreciate them. But it's a bit unneccesary how you're so quick to underrate Nani's productivity for us. He's been the best right winger by any definition this season. That includes the predictable and the unexpected.
Great to have Valencia back and looking sharp though.Nah, strongly disagree. Fergie will play both of them whenever possible. Nani will play left and Valencia on the right. Wait and see.
The best I've ever seen Nani play is on the left, and he's not a traditional winger, he very rarely goes to the line, he likes to cut in around the 18, and from there a right foot works wonders. Nani isn't really a winger, the same as Ronaldo wasn't, even though played in that position.
Manchester United play traditionally with width. And in that case, Valencia is a better winger. Why you can't accept that I'm not sure, but it's quite clear!
Are you having a laugh?
Nani is too good to be left out because fergie will prefer someone els more often than not. And he's also too good at football to have a problem with playing on the left. He's done it very well many times before. It will be nani left and valencia right or one of them right and giggsy or park left.
Where did Nani play most often last year?
Ferguson likes Valencia. He's uncomplicated, highly effective and never makes a fuss.
Our strikers would probably prefer to play with Valencia than with Nani because the former is less selfish and more intelligent on the ball. Nani can play on the left though, so Fergie we'll play both of them.
He's on Twitter as well apparently:
AntoV25
Rio's following him so must be him.
AntoV25
Rio's following him so must be him.
As opposed to nani who he hates despite him being the leagues most creative player.
Big bad fergie!
Go and rewatch his performance on the left v Bayern last year.
Good point about how beneficial it will be if Nani plays on the left. The amount of times you watch the lad cut in from the right in desperate hope of getting a chance to find a bit of space adjust his body and get a shot away with his right foot without much success it will be good for him to have the chance to operate from the left again.
Can still remember his first season when nobody looked like scoring for us he scored a couple of crackers in this way.
Can still remember his first season when nobody looked like scoring for us he scored a couple of crackers in this way.
Don't be silly. I was merely pointing out that Ferguson has, last season, given Valencia the nod on the right and Nani played on the left for the vast majority of last season. Idiocy aside, that's what happened.
History tells us that given the choice, the boss goes for Valencia on the right.
On the left. Where he'll play most often now Valencia is back. And play well too.
Not a hope in hell of him sitting out games when he's fit and available. He's established himself as one of the first names on the team sheet. The return of Valencia won't change that.
You can say that about any player during a season but I think on the whole he's better on the right.
Valencia started 29 games on the right in the PL. The majority of Nani's play was on the left. If given the choice of who to play on the right, Valencia, if fit, will get the nod.
I think Giggs is a very big reason why, if as you say Nani is pushed over to the left, Nani doesn't play as much as Valencia from hereon in. And Park in big games when he returns.
That's what im telling you!
You just said that nani will have to battle it out with valencia for the right wing position.
I'm saying that well go with valencia on the right and nani on the left whenever we can.
Yup. Spurs and Middlesborough. Amazing.
Giggs will play through the centre again.
Which is something Fergie's obviously wanted to do for ages having previously said Giggs no longer has the legs to run up and down the wing for 90 minutes, well over a year ago.
So if I'm wrong and Nani goes to the left he's competing with Giggs when fit and Park in the bigger games where we're more conservative in midfield. And Rooney gets played there often from time to time too.
It was his best game of the season and it came on the left. His form this season is not because he's been playing on the right, it just happens to coincide with him playing there more due to Valencia being out. He's moved over to the left plenty of times and performed just as well, and he'll continue to do so when playing there regularly with Valencia on the right.
almost forgot how good he was. Calmness personified.
Him on one flank, nani on the other, Rooney as playmaker and Hernandez as finisher .... happy dayz ahead ... as long as we can get 4 fit defenders onto the bloody pitch!
Him on one flank, nani on the other, Rooney as playmaker and Hernandez as finisher .... happy dayz ahead ... as long as we can get 4 fit defenders onto the bloody pitch!
But how does that affect nani really? He can play well right or left.
Nani's better on the right this year than last year so looking at his poor performances on the left last year is a bit pointless, he's just better all round this term. I'd play em both, but if I could only have one I'd take Valencia.
There's more competition on the left. Giggs, Park, Rooney when we play a 4-5-1 often in practice.
I think Nani on the left and Valencia on the right will be too gungho for Sir Alex in the bigger games between now and the end of the season. It would mean dropping Park, centralising Giggs and restricting Evra's forward runs.
Nani won't really compete with them. When fit he starts unless hes rested. He's our best wide player.
There's only been competition due to circumstance and that will always apply, but especially next year, of the current squad, you'd be mad not to play Nani left and Antonio right.
No way. It worked like a charm against bayern till we went a man down.
Since when has united playing with two attack minded wide players been too risky?
He proves tonight that sometimes the simplest way really is the best. Taiwo has Nani pretty well sussed on the night but didn't have a clue how to handle Valencia.
Since we adopted that approach in the bigger games that we have for the last five or six years now.
We'll just have to wait and see to be honest but I think tonight gave you an insight into something Nani wasn't struggling, Giggs is 37 and playing okay but not untouchable. Ferguson could have put Giggs off, stuck Nani on the left and Valencia on the right.
Of course the circumstance of the game should be considered but I'd be willing to return to this point at the end of April and just see what has happened. I'd predict Valencia will play on the right and Nani will play on the left in the league bit in the bigger games will see himself losing out often to Park or Giggs.
And he's quite right in doing so!
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