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I think it's just a mental thing, I'm sure Nani could be as good as Valencia if he tried fully and looked at his weaknesses.

Thats easy to say - like saying "I could have been a great player if I'd only been a bit faster or a bit better".

The test of whether a player will be truly great is often down to his attitude and whether he's willing to put the work in.

Its no coincidence that the likes of Messi and Ronaldo are top players - they both clearly have the drive to work hard to better themselves.

Nani has great talent and has developed a lot in terms of willing ness to track back and work hard in a game and he should be commedned for that. Still not the finished article though.
 
Yeah, he's really excelled at that, shows some great desire and discipline.

Especially given the quality we already possess in players who do that now, as you say, but he will learn all the more from them.

It's wonderful to see.
 
Does anyone else think a big factor in Valencia looking so impressive these last few weeks is down to him being so fresh, while other players in our team and the defenders he's up against are jaded after a long season?

Obviously, it's a trade off between being fresh vs rusty but it's easy to forget how much of a toll, physically, the huge amount of football we've played this season has had on other players in our squad (thinking of Nani here)

It is a factor, it's also a factor in other areas of the team.

Early 2011 I recall posting something about how the fact that we are so limited on wing options with Nani and Giggs only that we were looking a bit tired out there and the return of Park / Valencia will be huge for us in terms of having options and freshness.

There was always the risk both of them came back and didn't get back to playing form soon, more so was worried about Park. Valencia I assumed would hit the ground running - when he came back in August he had done just that, had a bit of a dip and then was getting back to form before the serious injury. He did that on this return, though through a far more serious injury, played well from the off - had a game or two where he wasn't at his best but, now continuing to play at a very high level.

For Nani on top of the tiredness, am sure the injury is another factor but, also a negative I'd say he is a lot more of a confidence player than Valencia, so having been on the bench since his return and then aside from the Fulham game, am sure has affected his form. However, he still looks dangerous out there, he over any other in our team that can score out of nothing or create when you think there was nothing on.

SAF always talks about the need of 4 good strikers but, the need of 4 good wingers, each providing their own unique qualities is evident by our performances as the rotation certainly helps keep things fresh and also allow for different tactics depending on the game.
 
Nice tribute in the Guardian:

Lonely Planet describes Lago Agrio as an "unkempt oil town, not high on tourists' lists" and advises that any visitors should "keep their heads down". This scruffy, sometimes scary, outpost of north-east Ecuador is where Antonio Valencia was born and spent much of his youth either playing football barefoot or helping his mother sell drinks outside a sports stadium.

Carved out of Amazonian jungle when, in the early 1960s, oil was discovered and Texaco began drilling, Lago Agrio has suffered for its black gold. While an amalgam of appalling pollution and destruction of rainforest became the subject of a lawsuit involving Texaco's parent company, Chevron, local problems have been further exacerbated by a flood of refugees from the cocaine wars raging across the nearby Colombian border. "Kidnapping is a problem," says Valencia, who ensured his parents and six siblings moved to Quito, Ecuador's capital, once he exported his skills to Europe. "But I had a very happy childhood."

Considering he spent countless hours scouring the streets for empty, discarded, glass bottles which his father sold to a recycling operation, that upbringing also ranks among the harshest experienced by any Manchester United player. A subscriber to the theory that tough backgrounds breed hungry achievers, Sir Alex Ferguson has extracted considerable capital from the deprivations of his own youth in Govan, but all things are relative. Set alongside Valencia's back story, the United manager's early experiences on Clydeside suddenly look safely suburban while Rio Ferdinand's infancy amid Peckham's meanest estates appears almost cosily twee.

Lago Agrio very possibly imbued Valencia with the mental resilience that facilitated the right-winger's timely recovery from a horrific ankle injury sustained against Rangers in September. Since returning to the side in March, he has helped United secure a place in the Champions League final and to within a point of a 19th league title.

Much has changed since the day, nearly five years ago, when a quiet young man arrived at Wigan, on loan from Villarreal. Noting that this 20-year-old speaking no English was barely able to read Spanish, staff wondered how he would cope – only to be astounded to learn he had swiftly, independently, found himself a house and a car. "Antonio could have buckled," says Paul Jewell, who was Wigan's manager at the time. "But he's got rare self reliance."

If such inner resourcefulness would later enable him to handle the pressures inherent in replacing Cristiano Ronaldo at United, his steely physical constitution commands instant respect. "Saw Valencia in the gym today," Ferdinand tweeted recently. "The guy throws weights like I threw Robbie Savage around. Strongest winger in the game. Fact."

Happily, Kirk Broadfoot's accidental tackle on that fateful Champions League night eight months ago has not diminished the extraordinary acceleration that makes Valencia among the fastest in his position. A combined fracture and dislocation that left bone protruding through skin imposed inevitable psychological scars yet he recovered his nerve in record time.

"When I saw my leg it was horrible," Valencia says. "I was in a lot of pain so the first challenge after returning was a bit of a concern. That tackle came against Marseille. I went in on my left foot and it did hurt a little but then I forgot about it and got stuck in."

Such commitment has characterised Valencia since, aged 10, he played his first organised game. At 16 football's lure saw him defy his father by leaving home and taking an eight hour bus journey to Quito to join El Nacional, a club with such a strong army association that players occupied barracks and partook in regular military parades. So great was his determination that when a coach advised increased pasta consumption, Valencia, confusing the word with that meaning toothpaste, dutifully gobbled tubes of Colgate.

Reward arrived with a transfer to Villarreal. Although a then slow-burning talent restricted him to a couple of La Liga appearances before a loan switch to Recreativo Huelva in Spain's second division, Valencia trained with Argentina's playmaker, Juan Román Riquelme. "I learnt a lot from Riquelme at Villarreal," he says.

So much indeed that in 2006 he emerged as one of the brightest young stars of a World Cup destined to change his life. "I was in Germany scouting and went to Poland v Ecuador looking for interesting Poles," Jewell says. "Ecuador won and Valencia's was the first name in my notebook. I liked his reading of the game, his understanding of play."

A loan move, subsequently made permanent by Steve Bruce, ensued, with the winger delighted to discover that, while he still preferred frittatas to meat pies, Wigan was rather wonderful. "Real Madrid wanted me before I joined United but I turned them down because I was happy at Wigan," says a man who meets compatriots in Bem Brasil, a South American restaurant in Manchester's Northern Quarter and lives a quiet, Paul Scholes-esque type existence with his partner, Zoila, and their small daughter. "I never felt right in Spain. I wasn't at ease but Wigan felt like*home."

Bruce appreciated Valencia's twin enthusiasm for tracking back and beating his man. "Antonio's a great kid, a wonderful professional and tough as old nails," Sunderland's manager says. "He's also got something not many English players have anymore, dribbling ability."

Capable of bringing the best out of Wayne Rooney while keeping Nani on the bench, his sheer consistency, defensive discipline and high-calibre crossing revive memories of Steve Coppell hugging United's touchlines. It did not take long for fans to stop lamenting Ferguson's failure to recruit Franck Ribery as Ronaldo's successor. Instead, at £16m Valencia represents one of his finest signings. "Antonio has a great tactical brain," United's manager says. "The boy's got everything – balance, power, speed – and he's strong as an ox."

As Ashley Cole, the England left-back humiliated when Chelsea crumbled at Old Trafford last Sunday, will testify, Valencia's catalytic role in an unexpectedly glorious Old Trafford spring cannot be over‑emphasised.
Antonio Valencia overcomes poverty and injury to sparkle at United | Louise Taylor | Football | The Guardian
 
Cracking read. Highlights everything that makes him excel as a professional football player and emphatic human being. What a man he is, I'm getting all emotional here dammit!
 
Excellent read, I didn't knew that he had such a tough upbringing.
 
Great article. It's fantastic how, despite having that now familiar footballing rags to riches story, he's maintained a down to earth attitude and real professionalism. He's become a superb player.
 
^^^ Same.

He's my favourite player at the moment with Hernandez. Love em to bits. In a gay way.
 
That article made me think about how absurdly diverse our current team is. I know it's not uncommon in modern football, but in terms of having players from absolutely all over the place we must be something like the best, didn't we field 11 different nationalities at some point this season? That we do this while retaining a distinctly British/Irish core to the squad is rather impressive.

As for Antonio himself, I can't really think of any other player who excites so much simply by stopping. That moment when he gets the ball by the touchline and just stands still over it, and you can see the left-back's sudden surge of fear, is one of my favourite things about this United side. This is probably the best example:



Badstuber never had a chance.
 
That article made me think about how absurdly diverse our current team is. I know it's not uncommon in modern football, but in terms of having players from absolutely all over the place we must be something like the best, didn't we field 11 different nationalities at some point this season? That we do this while retaining a distinctly British/Irish core to the squad is rather impressive.

As for Antonio himself, I can't really think of any other player who excites so much simply by stopping. That moment when he gets the ball by the touchline and just stands still over it, and you can see the left-back's sudden surge of fear, is one of my favourite things about this United side. This is probably the best example:



Badstuber never had a chance.


Could watch that goal all night. Stunning.
 
Where do people reckon this guy ranks/will rank in SAF's shrewdest signings? I personally reckon that once his career here is complete, he'll be right up there.

I remember the clamour for Franck Ribery/David Silva to come in and replace Ronaldo, yet Fergie went for a guy twice as cheap and IMO twice as effective as either in terms of what he offers this team.

His comeback from the injury has been nowt short of phenomenal. I expected a few sub appearances and a few starts when SAF rotated the squad but he's been awesome and forced our best attacking player this season IMO onto the bench. That's testement to just how strong he is mentally and how good he is technically. Kudos to our medical staff aswell for recovering him so quickly and so thouroughly, he's come back even better than he was prior to the injury, and he was superb then.
 
His predictablity on the ball hurt us tonight, we needed him to carry the ball for us.. but just didn't happen for him.
 
Can't believe how Barca are able to force their game on us that he never got the chance to truly run at them.
 
Had nothing against starting him, but Fergie took too long in taking him off. Oh well.
 
"I have signed a 3 year contract extension and I am very happy to be at the best club in the world"

- off his twitter account.

Great news!:drool:
 
I love this guy. I wasnt even aware contract talks were on going. No media bullshit to improve his salary, no fuss whatsoever. He's a true role model to youngsters.

Also, his Twitter exchange the other day with Rooney made me feel warm and fuzzy inside like a little girl.
 
Pretty significant news, maybe an amendment to the thread title is in order?
 
He hasn't signed a new contract yet.

His official twitter is @AntoV25. He tweets there only in Spanish. Rio, Rooney and Lindegaard follow him.

@A_Valenica25 is account of a random cnut who tweeted someone (yes, it was a mention) that he signed 3 year extension.
 
Chris Wheeler of the Daily Mail writes...

New deal for Valencia hits snag
Manchester United have opened talks over a new contract for Antonio Valencia but negotiations have hit an impasse over image rights. The Ecuador winger is halfway through the four-year deal he signed after arriving from Wigan for £16million in June 2009. United are prepared to improve Valencia’s £50,000-a-week contract but early discussions faltered when his representatives asked for image rights to be included in the new package. Old Trafford chief executive David Gill is refusing to agree to image rights clauses while investigations continue by HM Revenue and Customs, who believe they may be able to recoup millions owed in tax on the payments across the Premier League. United are still optimistic they will reach a compromise with Valencia, 25, who has been one of their most impressive performers after recovering from the serious ankle injury he suffered in September.
 
To this point, I almost can't imagine United without his dynamic approach and always solid balance.

He deserve a very, very decent contract.
 
Has he finished developing i.e is it the final product we have at hand - or can you lot see him progress and kick it up a notch more?
 
Has he finished developing i.e is it the final product we have at hand - or can you lot see him progress and kick it up a notch more?

I think this is the best we can get out of him. The good thing is that he is very strong physically, and even if he doesn't improve, he's still very good.
Oh, maybe he can start using his left foot more. I said this before, and still think he is the most one footed player I have seen!
 
Rivaldo is the most 1 footed player i've ever seen. He just doesn't fancy his right even if it was just a 3 yard sideway pass, but then who would when one has such a magical left foot?
 
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