Don't really understand why we won't go 4-3-3 against fecking Arsenal with Fellaini instead of useless Valencia but yea, other than that I don't mind.
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That seems to be everybody preferred option bar Moyes. Even Jose carried it on from the previous 3-4 managers at Chelsea.
Do you remember SAF trying to play Rooney from the left? Not only was Rooney ineffective but people scoffed at the notion after a while. Moyes genuinely can't win with some of you, you'll always find something to moan about.
At least Rooney and van Persie will have more passes between them this time than on sunday when they kick off more than twice.
I think Rooney will drop deep. It's been ages since we've seen him properly in the box so I think we'll try to get a foothold in the game and then fingers crossed we get lucky. We shouldn't forget, though they are above us we've a good recent record against them and should be confident.
Because he's almost certainly not match fit? Valencia's pace could be useful against what looks like a rather slow Arsenal team.
I'm actually okay with the team selection. I can understand why Valencia is there, we'll need someone tracking back, particularly on Özil. I'm more interested to see how we set up now. Fellaini to come on and snatch the winner, calling it now.
Then basically anything that we can throw into a three-man midfield ?
If Rooney decides to play same kind of shit he played against Fulham we'll be more than vunerable down the middle.
The exact front 6 that played Fulham? I'm really not a fan of this 'interchanging' nonsense either, I can't think of a single top side in Europe with a system like that, other than Chelsea for 3 months under Di Matteo (which didn't work).
Jaysus, that PL table never ceases to put me into a deep depression when I see it. Anything less than a win and we're basically a dead duck in the water.
It is neither one thing nor the other, not quite as defensive as it could be or the optimum line-up for attack.
PLAY ALL THE GOOD PLAYERS!
JUST PLAY ALL THE....Oh I give up.
JUST PLAY ALL THE....Oh I give up.
A lot of people predicted that this will happen after we signed Mata. People who still trust on Moyes were in denial and said that Januzaj is being rested but no. It's typicall Moyes, sacrifice talented players for not talented hardworkers.
Valencia will maintain his routine of hitting the left back with his crosses. Both Kagawa and Mata can work with the fullback and cut in if they like. You dont need a out of form winger for that.
Stop crying, you've been at it all day.
This is my opinion, not one that should be thrown in with a boatload of others a number of years ago. I didn't mind Rooney in that position and I felt the team worked very well with him in there.
Ideally, he'd play similarly to the way David Villa played at Barcelona, with high work rate, clever, inside movement behind the defence, allowing Mata, or Kagawa, to utilise their best traits from the centre of midfield. They are attacking midfielders for a reason. Rooney in this current role, one which Moyes exaggerates by allowing him to stand on Van Persie's toes, continues to hinder our team shape and style of play.
It's amazing that we spend £37m on Mata and are constantly using him on the left in a 4-4-2 system, it's actually something people were taking the piss about before we got him, and now it's actually happening.
Not going to happen.
Rooney will help the midfielders as usual so it's a 4-4-1-1.
Is fletcher being rested
Who is their leftback? Poor guy will have a sore arse tonight.
Would've dropped Rooney for this game (call me insane, but he hasn't done a lot in recent weeks), play a midfield five of Carrick, Cleverley, Kagawa in the centre, Mata coming in from the right, Adnan coming in from the left, RvP upfront. No 'get it wide', no Rooney who is culpable of doing it all the time, no Valencia, no Young, width to be provided by both full-backs.
It's never going to happen under Moyes.
It's never going to happen under Moyes.
We're going to win.
What else were we going to do, though? Rooney pretty much has the club by it's balls, he's not going to be dislodged.
Which of Rooney and RvP would you drop to accommodate him?
bejesus, pray for rvp, mata, and rooney but why bring in a class player to replace our only bright spark this season.
For the love of kagawa is he injured? not even on the bench.
For the love of kagawa is he injured? not even on the bench.
Agreed. I find Fellaini an offense against mankind but the one thing he can do is crash the box and score off long balls, or at least provide the slick knockdown ball for a mate. This could be the night Fellaini begins repaying the insane 27.5 (plus wages, let's not forget) that we paid for him on Panic Day 2013.
Against this back line I could see a Rafael cross to Fellaini in the 88th minute resulting in the improbable match-winner, but only if our fuillbacks remain disciplined and our central defenders play their very best game. A butchering is likely to happen, but if all of Arsenal's possession results in nothing midway through the second half I can see the home fans turning on the gooners and us stealing the win.
At least nobody is out of position. More or less.
Looks like i'm one of the few content with Valencia playing. Rafael was lost at the weekend not having anyone infront of him all game, so atleast the 2 should be able to work in tandem tonight.
Rooney and RVP are hardly setting the world alight as a partnership. They don't link up at all.
Chelsea use it currently and they're top of the league. Plus we have players who can play in it (Januzaj, Young, Mata).
You can't actually use the Fulham result as a reason to criticize this formation. That was a freak game, we had 81 crosses, not something that happens every game.
Implying Kagawa has done a lot in recent weeks.
Against dropping Rooney - he, along with Januzaj, have been our only brightsparks all season. Dropping him, for me, would really mean Moyes has indeed ventured into insanity.
I think it was the only option using him and Rooney together anytime RVP is fit. What it is not however, is how to get the best out of your £40 million investment straight away
and i was in good mood until i read the line up
Kagawa hasn't played in recent weeks. Annoys me when people say someone's not done much, yet he's not played. How can he do anything when he doesn't get a game?
Exactly, I said Mata was signed to replace Januzaj in the team and a lot of people just wouldn't have it and said that he's only being rested, how much rest does an 18yo need?
Why not try a 3 man midfield with RvP, Rooney and Januzaj interchanging ahead of Mata? Is that so implausible? Or is it so vital to have Valencia in there to deal with their full back and offer absolutely nothing offensively and leave us with a two man midfield instead?
I thought we bought Mata to at least try to change the way we play, seeing as we spent THIRTY SEVEN MILLION POUNDS on him, instead, we're shafting him to the left and doing exactly what hasn't worked for us all season.
If we persist with this mind numbing cross at sight system, Fellaini will be a big asset to have out there. Which is in a way very sad because someone like Crouch instead of RVP would have seen us win the game at Fulham which says a lot.
We thought Kagawa would change the way we played, it didn't, and now the same is happening with Mata.
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