I say Kiddo
Banks vs. Schmeichel
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you say 'Kiddo' what? Where are you by the way mate, you're not in UK are you at this time?
Are you in Oz or states or something?
'Eusebio!, Eusebio I say Kiddo, Kiddo Kiddo'
Portand, Oregon
Portand, Oregon
Ah, I get it. Portland eh? Lot's of chainsaw-wielding psychos jibbing about round there is there? You sound like you're a Manc originally.
I once met a chap on New Years Eve in Sydney, I was up at the bar and I clocked a dapper looking bloke and his bird looking at me and smiling. I asked them if something was wrong and they both started laughing and said they had made a bet I was from Manchester from the way I look and walked. I got chatting to him and he was from Ancoats and owned a 'garbage-disposal' business in America. He said he lived in 'Minnesota in the summer and Arizona in the winter'. The bloke had more gold than Ron Atkinson. Bought me drinks all night, star man.
One of the few sensible informed posts amongst a heap of crap from myopic Sky generation youngsters who believe football started in 1992 unless it involved a United player of yore.
I saw them both. There wasn't much in it. Schmeical was better off his line, Banks positional sense was second to none. I would put both right up there amongst the very best. banks is easily the best keeper this contrty has ever produced including Clemence and shilton.
yeah, well Denmark produced Schmeichel and he was miles better than any English keeper, and I am well aware football existed before 1992, you Scouse twat
Banks won the World Cup behind one of the best English sides. Schmeichel won the European Cup with Denmark.
Scientifically analysed and proven that Schmeichel's save was more difficult.
Banks had less reaction time, but Schmeichel's shot was faster and he had to cover a greater distance to make the save.
No he feckin wasn't. Thank feck for the penal colony, get shut of halfwits.
what about paddy roach???
The English tend to overrate their players.
that could be said of any nation
that poll has kevin keegan as 38 in players of the century
proves it is flawed
proves it is flawed
As I said at the beginning Johnno, I wouldn't like to say who was the best because they were all fantastic including Big Pete. I would never say that Banks was the best but my problem is that people talk about the best ever and they haven't seen the rest. What I was trying to say in my little way was that no person can say that so-and-so is the best ever, what they can say is that he/she is the best they have ever seen. I've had the pleasure of seeing some of the best but we do tend to put players on a higher pedastal than they possibly deserve where as at the other end of the spectrum players are often slagged off far more than they deserve. Lets just accept that there are great players in every period of time and it's bloody near impossible to say one is better than another, except for Big Dunc who was the best ever.
I would have Banks as no.1, Zoff as no. 2 and Schmeichel as no. 3.
European Player of the Year TWICE. You're talking shite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvRBv3kMB4c
Didn't that save keep the Scousers out of the Champions League that year?
Didn't that save keep the Scousers out of the Champions League that year?
1) Denmark also failed to qualify for the tournament and only got in because Yugoslavia were kicked out.
2) Rapid Vienna. Fantastic save - even better because I was sat, eating a Steak dinner, next to a City fan. I was on a course at Disley.
Not as much as the English though.
big nev was probably the best british keeper i've seen, ten times the player groblar was, quite similar to schmiechel in the way they both made them selves big when charging out, whilst the great dane is the best keeper i've seen, although i havn't seen much of banks
As I said at the beginning Johnno, I wouldn't like to say who was the best because they were all fantastic including Big Pete. I would never say that Banks was the best but my problem is that people talk about the best ever and they haven't seen the rest. What I was trying to say in my little way was that no person can say that so-and-so is the best ever, what they can say is that he/she is the best they have ever seen. I've had the pleasure of seeing some of the best but we do tend to put players on a higher pedastal than they possibly deserve where as at the other end of the spectrum players are often slagged off far more than they deserve. Lets just accept that there are great players in every period of time and it's bloody near impossible to say one is better than another, except for Big Dunc who was the best ever.
spot on
sounds about right
This is what I'm talking about -- Neville Southall -- to anyone who is too young to remember one of the most under-rated keepers of all time - a feckin giant of a man in goal, looked as though he put a couple of gallons down his neck every night in the pub but could spring like a cat - definately the best shot stopper I've ever seen including Schmikes who is the best all round keeper I've seen.
Just to clear up an answer to my previous post, Neville Southall >>>>> Grobbelar ... by a long way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0lNsBAsb-U
The man is an absolute legend some top top drawer saves in there. Easily the best keeper i have seen in my lifetime.
The man is an absolute legend some top top drawer saves in there. Easily the best keeper i have seen in my lifetime.
I was referring to the fact Denmark were famously sunning themselves on the beach before the tournament; though I guess it did apply to England too!
OldRed is correct I guess that nobody can say that so-and-so is the greatest, rather they are the greatest they've ever seen. But Schmeichel was so good, I'm gunna willfully break that rule anyway! He is the greatest, perhaps the only player I've ever seen play that would get into a best ever XI (Bar Maradona, I seen him play)
How about Yashin?
He was a good keeper, first few players too actually study and think about the game.
I prefer Schmeichel over banks, but they are both great keepers.
My dad always mentioned that save but also said Eusebio should have scored but hit it straight at stepney, albeit with such power stepney did well to hold it. My dad also thinks that the reason Eusebio applauded stepney was because he know's he should have scored and therefor deflected the attention from his 'miss'. As opposed to Pele who believed he had scored, until Bank's came from nowhere.
But have seen both saves (TGD against veinna & Banks's) there is nothing to choose between them.
Peter is the greatest goalkeeper i have ever seen and my dad,75 and football mad, says he is the best to ever put on a pair of gloves. Thats good enough for me
Banks and Shilton were a good bit better than your Danish bloke.
When it comes to Schmeichel I'm completely biased and ignorant to any other opinions on the matter, greatest goalkeeper of all time, end of!
Shilton?! Come come now, I have seen him play live, and he simply isn't in Schmeichels class. But then what would an Arsenal supporter know about class
Shilton at his best probably shades it from Banks. Then a pack of Seaman, Schmeichel, Clemence, Jennings (Spurs days) maybe. Cech might make it in time, no one else playing in the PL today is in that league.
Big Pete, clearly the best keeper, ever.
Shilton?! Come come now, I have seen him play live, and he simply isn't in Schmeichels class. But then what would an Arsenal supporter know about class
No, he wasn't. Neville Southall was better than him. Probably the second best keeper, I've seen.
.. seriously - how old are you mate ? Is that a wind-up ??
Old enough to have seen football over the decades and therefore qualified to make a valid judgement. Jennings was quality and with Banks, Shilton, Clemence, Stepney and Bonetti all around at that time the late 60's early
70's was a golden age for keepers.
I'd definitely put Cech up there mind.
Bonetti - I will always equate with letting that 2 goal lead slip against the Germans in the 1970 World Cup (QF I think) - one of the goals especially was a howler. He must have only found out he was playing at the last minute due to Bank's last minute stomach complaint. I just found out today though he hadn't played for 2 months previously.
I'd put Schmichel, Banks, Yashin and Southall all above Jennings, Shilton, Clemence, Stepney and Bonetti, though they were all good keepers. I would put Zoff and Sepp Maier and Grosics all above your list too.
Petr Cech is for me the best in the world at the moment, hard to believe he's just turned 25 - no doubt's he's going to be one of the all-time greats too.
How old are you? If you're qualified to judge Grosics I make you at least 77.
I'd go with that. Can't believe no one else has mentioned the fat Welsh cnut(not Davo). I thought he was easily better than any other keeper in the league during the 80's. As for Cech, he is brilliant, but Buffon has to be up there with him too.
I never saw Banks play but I can't believe that 2 of the Arsenal fans have the audacity to mention Seaman in this thread.
Shilton at his best, when he played for forest, was as good as any I have seen and I would bracket him Banks, Schmeichel and Jennings as the top four keepers during the last 50 years thats in no particular order.