Barcelona - a lot of moaning about them and some praise

[Devilton]

How much you wanna bet Barca forums don't have a single thread mentioning how disgusting United are. Much less one that's 26 pages long.

Why do we care?

Because deep down we hate that they are seen as the better team (and lets be fair, twice now they have proved to be the better team), and on some level we want some of what they have (and that's not just the players, but also the type of structure they have in place with the fan ownership / youth academy, etc).

 

[KM]

I don’t get the hate for Barcelona either. I think it is their success that is responsible for many people hating them.

I see a lot of comments like this from you.

You must have a very high opinion of yourself.

Their is no hatred for Barcelona if one is pointing out if they've divers in their players. This thread is a bit OTT and the OP is a OTT though.

No denying, that their style of play and youth philosophy is one to be admired but the people who are praising their ownership must also know that they're in huge debt and last year failed to pay the wages of their players. That's why probably they got a shirt sponsor.

And as for the bolded part, the same usual muppets continue to post the same shite in nearly all of the threads. Especially after the Basel defeat, it has become out of control. Usually when I say something to someone wrongly, I apologize immediately(ask Alastair).

 

[devilish]

Their is no hatred for Barcelona if one is pointing out if they've divers in their players. This thread is a bit OTT and the OP is a OTT though.

No denying, that their style of play and youth philosophy is one to be admired but the people who are praising their ownership must also know that they're in huge debt and last year failed to pay the wages of their players. That's why probably they got a shirt sponsor.

And as for the bolded part, the same usual muppets continue to post the same shite in nearly all of the threads. Especially after the Basel defeat, it has become out of control. Usually when I say something to someone wrongly, I apologize immediately(ask Alastair).

If you apologize for me, Il forgive you...

I'd better stop joking with you or you'll probably ask for my head next.

 

[Crustanoid]

They make very good teams look poor. They also have a confidence-sapping effect when doing so which seems to last many months afterwards. The 'hatred' is a subconscious reaction to the strong feelings of inferiority they cause. We could really do with them meeting City at some point soon, to knock them off their psychological 'perch' because they have done a pretty good job on both us and Real in recent seasons

 

[sajeev]

Because if you don't win the CL twice in a row then winning:
1- The World Cup
2- The World Club Cup
3- The Euro Cup
4- The UEFA Champions League (twice)
5- The League title (three times)
6- And A few other cups and supercups
in four years count for nothing, because we see that everyday.. (let alone a few other achievements like the sextuple, their goal scoring records, some astonishing results hitting Europe's best teams for fours and fives and sixes, and the list goes on...)

I'm sure you have like 25 teams in mind that have done this.. Care to share one?

i agree that they are a pretty great team. but when did they win the World Cup and Euro?

there could be a lot of commentary added to that, but i guess it is best to leave it as it is.

 

[Randall Flagg]

That Spanish side has a lot of Barcelona players to be fair.

 

[Rado_N]

So we're giving Barca credit for the Spanish WC win now? Bloody hell.

Pogue's point about a lack of a similarly themed Madrid thread may have some validity, but there is some crazy level of love thrown at Barca which will naturally bring about more discussion of them and people have a problem with some of their antics so it's naturally going to be discussed more.

It's also worth pointing out that Madrid get plenty of shit from people in plenty of threads, including this one, and both teams are pretty much as bad as each other.

Problem is, unless you declare them the bestest team in the whole wide world in every second breath there's always someone waiting to call you bitter, which is pretty childish.

 

[sajeev]

That Spainish side has a lot of Barcelona players to be fair.

yeah but it is still way over the top. or am i being bitter?

 

[BaldwinLegend]

So we're giving Barca credit for the Spanish WC win now? Bloody hell.

They've contributed about 70% of the players though. And Barcelona's resurgence and Spain finally losing their tag of perennial underachievers can't be coincidental, can it?

 

[Randall Flagg]

I think on this forum there appears to be more haters than fans who appreciate what we are currently witnessing. We should have a 25 page thread singing their praises and posting gifs of all the amazing moments they produce every week.

Real Madrid are a far more horrible side than Barcelona in just about every way. (Even though I am actually hoping they do take the title this season)

 

[sajeev]

They've contributed about 70% of the players though. And Barcelona's resurgence and Spain finally losing their tag of perennial underachievers can't be coincidental, can it?

yep, 6 starters in World Cup final (not counting Villa who went there afterwards) and 3 starters in the Euro final.

You argue either ways on this, depending on your inclination

 

[Kinky Melinky]

How much you wanna bet Barca forums don't have a single thread mentioning how disgusting United are. Much less one that's 26 pages long.

Why do we care?

Because deep down we hate that they are seen as the better team (and lets be fair, twice now they have proved to be the better team), and on some level we want some of what they have (and that's not just the players, but also the type of structure they have in place with the fan ownership / youth academy, etc).

Nail on the head

 

[adexkola]

Yawn. I absolutely loved the 2006 Barcelona team, when they swept up everything. That team was a classier (and better, IMO) team than this one. Ronaldinho

It's not about jealousy. Why does no one jump on my back when I say I hate Real? Bunch of Barcelona fanbois on here...

 

[adexkola]

How much you wanna bet Barca forums don't have a single thread mentioning how disgusting United are. Much less one that's 26 pages long.

Why do we care?

Because deep down we hate that they are seen as the better team (and lets be fair, twice now they have proved to be the better team), and on some level we want some of what they have (and that's not just the players, but also the type of structure they have in place with the fan ownership / youth academy, etc).

They don't have a thread on us being a despicable team because we don't systematically act like cnuts on the pitch, we don't tap up players publically, and we are known for attacking football.

The reason why this thread was created is because there's a wide disparity between how Barcelona are depicted by the media and fanbois on the site (mes un club bollocks), and how they really are. I think it's widely accepted that Real are cnutish, hence no 26 page thread. If you watched the semifinal that made so many people crazy in this thread, no stupid things like jealousy would be mentioned.

 

[7even]

How much you wanna bet Barca forums don't have a single thread mentioning how disgusting United are. Much less one that's 26 pages long.

Why do we care?

Because deep down we hate that they are seen as the better team (and lets be fair, twice now they have proved to be the better team), and on some level we want some of what they have (and that's not just the players, but also the type of structure they have in place with the fan ownership / youth academy, etc).

There are so many fanboy's on this forum who buy's into the concept of success is everything. Isn't it sweat. Young men believe's they have found the salvation.

 

[Randall Flagg]

There are so many fanboy's on this forum who buy's into the concept of success is everything. Isn't it sweat. Young men believe's they have found the salvation.

You are talking out your arse there buddy

In this sport playing fantastic football, have an amazing youth system and being successful is everything.

What else would you want? It is very easy to admire Barcelona and their set up. It does not make anyone a fanboy

Answer - Duh, but they dive sometimes they are disgusting

 

[VP]

How much you wanna bet Barca forums don't have a single thread mentioning how disgusting United are. Much less one that's 26 pages long.

Why do we care?

Because deep down we hate that they are seen as the better team (and lets be fair, twice now they have proved to be the better team), and on some level we want some of what they have (and that's not just the players, but also the type of structure they have in place with the fan ownership / youth academy, etc).

If United were all conquering as their current side are and behaved half as badly as they do, there'd be 26 page thread in almost every football forum in Europe forget Barca forums.

Also so what if we hate Barca for being better than us?

Our rivalry with Liverpool largely stems from them being successful. No one complains about that?

 

[Ludens the Red]

There's no denying that each Clasico is packed with embarrassing nonsense from both teams. Sanchez made a total tit of himself the other night and Di Maria was just as bad.

However, the absence of a 26 page thread on why "Madrid are a disgusting football team" speaks volumes.

Words of wisdom from you once again.

I'm not even sure why you bolded that line to make your attempt at a grand statement. I genuinely do wonder if Iniesta would fit into the Prem, I know Silva has but I'd still have to wonder if at 27 Iniesta could adapt. If you didn't wonder that I'd consider you a Barca wanking fanboy muppet, but I'm sure you're not.

Because you implied the 4th best player in the world would not shine in the Premier League, it's just a nonsense.
I'm guessing this plays into the myth about the Premier League being so ridiculously hard to play in because of the pace.
Cos as you see, Barcelona struggle to move the ball quickly and tend to play at a slow pace. Real Madrid were closing Barcelona down at a stupidly high level and yet Iniesta still managed to take a large dump over their entire midfield.
I don't know what makes people think players like Iniesta and Messi will come to the Premier League and somehow struggle against the likes of Wolves and Stoke, when they take regular dumps on the chests of Real Madrid, ourselves and Arsenal.

 

[rcoobc]

If United were all conquering as their current side are and behaved half as badly as they do, there'd be 26 page thread in almost every football forum in Europe forget Barca forums.

Also so what if we hate Barca for being better than us?

Our rivalry with Liverpool largely stems from them being successful. No one complains about that?

Take away success and you'd have a similar rivalry to that of Leeds, but probably a bit more. It would still be there.

 

[Devil may care]

There's no denying that each Clasico is packed with embarrassing nonsense from both teams. Sanchez made a total tit of himself the other night and Di Maria was just as bad.

However, the absence of a 26 page thread on why "Madrid are a disgusting football team" speaks volumes.

There are also multiple threads here praising the Barca players for their footballing talent, where as with Madrid bar Ronaldo no one really has much to say about their players, except Boss and his Marcelo thing.

The reason Barca have this thread here is the multitude of cnuts they have and the level of cuntery on display with them on a regular basis.

Iniesta would dick everyone in the PL.

I'm not interested in what he'd do off the field.

 

[kouroux]

Yawn. I absolutely loved the 2006 Barcelona team, when they swept up everything. That team was a classier (and better, IMO) team than this one. Ronaldinho

It's not about jealousy. Why does no one jump on my back when I say I hate Real? Bunch of Barcelona fanbois on here...

I agree with the rest but not with the part I put in bold.

 

[RedThaiDevils#7]

To be fair, some of the tackles made in el Classico were really horrible... Mainly pepe and ramos... Still I don't like the way they spin around... Falling down touching where u were kicked would be enough... Too many drogba acts

 

[Devil may care]

Because you implied the 4th best player in the world would not shine in the Premier League, it's just a nonsense.
I'm guessing this plays into the myth about the Premier League being so ridiculously hard to play in because of the pace.
Cos as you see, Barcelona struggle to move the ball quickly and tend to play at a slow pace. Real Madrid were closing Barcelona down at a stupidly high level and yet Iniesta still managed to take a large dump over their entire midfield.
I don't know what makes people think players like Iniesta and Messi will come to the Premier League and somehow struggle against the likes of Wolves and Stoke, when they take regular dumps on the chests of Real Madrid, ourselves and Arsenal.

The difference is they meet us or Arsenal once a season at best and neither our team or Arsenal's practice the art of kicking the shit out of players. Whether Iniesta at his age and with his little frame could take that week in and week out is what I wonder. Messi is different, he has quite a chunky little frame and has shown a toughness as well as rarely being injured despite getting the harshest treatment. As for 4th best player in the world, I'm curious now, who is number 3?

 

[RedThaiDevils#7]

1 messi 2 xavi 3 Ronaldo 4 iniesta if I can guess correctly

 

[Rado_N]

They've contributed about 70% of the players though. And Barcelona's resurgence and Spain finally losing their tag of perennial underachievers can't be coincidental, can it?

So because they have a large presence in the Spanish team they can claim to have won the WC? No, that's just daft by any measure.

I think on this forum there appears to be more haters than fans who appreciate what we are currently witnessing. We should have a 25 page thread singing their praises and posting gifs of all the amazing moments they produce every week.

Real Madrid are a far more horrible side than Barcelona in just about every way. (Even though I am actually hoping they do take the title this season)

Why does it have to be haters or fans? Why can't it be that some of us recognise what a fantastic team they are, acknowledge that they play some absolutely incredible football, have a brilliant collection of players including the best in the world, but still feel the need to dive, feign injury, crowd the ref over almost everything that goes against them and generally act like cnuts?

In fact, them having all that talent and still resorting to the shit they do is probably what makes it grate with some people so much. They don't need to do it.

Madrid are also a bunch of cnuts, but perhaps the fact that people aren't proclaiming them to be the best side in the history of football means that other people don't feel the need to mention it quite so much. Pointing out that Barca are a bunch of irritating cheats a lot of the time doesn't mean a person thinks they're a shit team.

 

[KM]

Anyone who thinks that Barcelona's financial model is very good needs to look up more on that subject. Their president Sandro Rosell said this last year

Rosell said: "We found a club in debt, with liquidity problems. At this point we have to take a loan to pay the wages of the players.
"The squad were supposed to be paid at the end of last month and still haven't been.
"We'll fix a loan of 150m euros (£125m). The banks know we have a business plan that will allow them to recover the money. The club is not bankrupt because it generates income."

If anything, the ownership model of Bayern is something to be envious of.

 

[Snow]

Real got way more hate than Barcelona. So much a thread called "Why all the hate for Real Madrid" was created. Pogue and Danny shouldn't think that people on here don't hate them as well.

This here thread just has a stupid thread title. It's a knee jerk thread after one of the most awful and blatant diving, referee manipulating games that we've witnesses in recent years.

People here love to bash divers and Barcelona have too many to have an individual thread for each of them. And since there are so many Classicos, Di Maria gets slated on here as well. Perhaps also Marcelo and Pepe.

Let the people have their outbursts on one thread. Create a Madrid thread if you don't like it. Or just wait. The heat is always at the highest setting after a Real-Barca clash.

 

[Boss]

There's no denying that each Clasico is packed with embarrassing nonsense from both teams. Sanchez made a total tit of himself the other night and Di Maria was just as bad.

However, the absence of a 26 page thread on why "Madrid are a disgusting football team" speaks volumes.

To be honest I think most of it is to do with the Ronaldo factor. Barca's biggest detractors on here mostly seem to be fans of Ronaldo. I can list them off the top of my head and give reasons but I don't want to open that can of worms.

It's all understandable to a certain degree though, because why would you want a player you personally like a lot to do badly? For that player to do well, you would like his club to perform so he can win the trophies for him to be happy. You like the player so much you start to become more infactuated with their club and then it expands to things like wanting Mourinho to do well and defending the club even when it's irrational to do so, also hating Barcelona more than ever because it's real's rivals and Ronnie's media arc nemesis plays for them etc

What's the difference between personal fans of Ronaldo to want Real to do well or people who like Keane to do well at managing whatever club he's at? Or me wanting Drake to release some more videos so people can truly understand what a piece of art his latest work is?

 

[Danny1982]

To be honest I think most of it is to do with the Ronaldo factor. Barca's biggest detractors on here mostly seem to be fans of Ronaldo. I can list them off the top of my head and give reasons but I don't want to open that can of worms.

It's all understandable to a certain degree though, because why would you want a player you personally like a lot to do badly? For that player to do well, you would like his club to perform so he can win the trophies for him to be happy. You like the player so much you start to become more infactuated with their club and then it expands to things like wanting Mourinho to do well and defending the club even when it's irrational to do so, also hating Barcelona more than ever because it's real's rivals and Ronnie's media arc nemesis plays for them etc

What's the difference between personal fans of Ronaldo to want Real to do well or people who like Keane to do well at managing whatever club he's at? Or me wanting Drake to release some more videos so people can truly understand what a piece of art his latest work is?

I think you just did..

What you said is quite obviously true though..

 

[Boss]

It's natural though to a great extent.

Ronaldo played for us, grew up to become one of the best players in the world and helped us win trophies at Old Trafford. Barca players have done feck all for us except knock us out of key comps. It does become a bit strange when you're forcing hatred for all things Barca through the love of Ronaldo but it's understandable.

It's natural for a lot of fans to want Ronaldo and Madrid to do well though the love and respect for Cristiano.

It's the same as a lot of United fans wanting Beckham and La Galaxy to do well. I know there's many who were chuffed for him and his team winning whatever cup they won.

So when I see posters with 7s in their usenames or 'aldos or Ronaldo as their favourite player in their profiles showing disdain for all things Barca etc. I'm not surprised and I understand it to a certain extent.

I also believe people can have selective memories. The Barcelona under Rijkaard was just as despicable at times. I remember when they played Chelsea at the Nou Camp in 06/07 and the amount of diving made me so angry I had to leave the room. If anybody thinks this Barca are bad I ask you to find a video of that game and get ready to be truly revolted.

In my opinion when it comes to cheating and Barca it's as bad as it always has been, the only main difference is that Ronaldo has moved to Real so I guess it's highlighted more than ever?

Or maybe more people are watching Barca games because they're keeping tabs on Ronnie and it's the first time people are seeing this. None of this is new for me, having watched laliga for well over a decade now.

 

[kouroux]

To be honest I think most of it is to do with the Ronaldo factor. Barca's biggest detractors on here mostly seem to be fans of Ronaldo. I can list them off the top of my head and give reasons but I don't want to open that can of worms.

It's all understandable to a certain degree though, because why would you want a player you personally like a lot to do badly? For that player to do well, you would like his club to perform so he can win the trophies for him to be happy. You like the player so much you start to become more infactuated with their club and then it expands to things like wanting Mourinho to do well and defending the club even when it's irrational to do so, also hating Barcelona more than ever because it's real's rivals and Ronnie's media arc nemesis plays for them etc

What's the difference between personal fans of Ronaldo to want Real to do well or people who like Keane to do well at managing whatever club he's at? Or me wanting Drake to release some more videos so people can truly understand what a piece of art his latest work is?

Drake is shit but his stuff sells

 

[7even]

It's natural though to a great extent.

Ronaldo played for us, grew up to become one of the best players in the world and helped us win trophies at Old Trafford. Barca players have done feck all for us except knock us out of key comps.

It's natural for a lot of fans to want Ronaldo and Madrid to do well though the love and respect for Cristiano.

It's the same as a lot of United fans wanting Beckham and La Galaxy to do well. I know there's many who were chuffed for him and his team winning whatever cup they won.

Once again I don't understand this analyze. I'm a Ronaldo supporter but my team is United. I love Beckham but I don't care about his new team. My first United hero was Coppell, I don't give a flying feck about his new career as a manager. I love Manchester United. Can you get that?

I have plenty of admiration for the majority of the Barcelona players. Xavi is a personal favorite and the disgusting character named Busquets is the best defensive midfielder in the world. Hands down. As a neutral I can honestly say that five of Barcelonas starters are Nr 1 in their position. Three others are top 3. I don't like Guardiola's personality but I see that he's a tactical genius. It's impossible to dismiss his influence in his teams success. And finally Messi is on his own. He is fast becoming the only player to rival Maradona as the best ever. Finally this team is possible the most effective team ever. The way they play is phenomenal and I find it hard to remember a better team, that including Brazil and AC Milan.

So why do dislike them? I'm not a hater or jealous. To old for that. I had no problem with them beating us two times. They where better and we where without a chance. Nothing to complain about. Last season they where superior to Madrid and every other team in the world. They where a level above. Nobody denying their superiority and there is nothing to argue. But what I know is that when they play, against every team bar Madrid and United, I find myself losing interest and after a while I switch channel. I also have big problems with part of their attitude. Busquets, Alves and Mascherano are all disgusting characters. Iniesta and Messi don't dive all the time but they are cheaters, nothing wrong with that because half of the football world do the same, but they try to act like they are something else. Something better.

With fame and success comes responsibility. If you want to be considered as a all time great you need to accept your moral responsibility to respect the game and your opponents. It's fair they react against Pepé and Mourinho, they deserve it. But I can't accept that they defend Busquets when he abuse Marcello with racial slurs. It's also provoking how they act in the transfer market and how they use their position to unsettle future targets and how they act against other selling clubs. It's also provoking when they try to look better and morally above their opponents. Like they have monopoly of what is right or wrong. All in all that make me dislike the club, their philosophy and how they handle their success. Is that OK with you without you calling me and others for jealous and haters?

 

[Boss]

Once again I don't understand this analyze. I'm a Ronaldo supporter but my team is United. I love Beckham but I don't care about his new team. My first United hero was Coppell, I don't give a flying feck about his new career as a manager. I love Manchester United. Can you get that?

I have plenty of admiration for the majority of the Barcelona players. Xavi is a personal favorite and the disgusting character named Busquets is the best defensive midfielder in the world. Hands down. As a neutral I can honestly say that five of Barcelonas starters are Nr 1 in their position. Three others are top 3. I don't like Guardiola's personality but I see that he's a tactical genius. It's impossible to dismiss his influence in his teams success. And finally Messi is on his own. He is fast becoming the only player to rival Maradona as the best ever. Finally this team is possible the most effective team ever. The way they play is phenomenal and I find it hard to remember a better team, that including Brazil and AC Milan.

So why do dislike them? I'm not a hater or jealous. To old for that. I had no problem with them beating us two times. They where better and we where without a chance. Nothing to complain about. Last season they where superior to Madrid and every other team in the world. They where a level above. Nobody denying their superiority and there is nothing to argue. But what I know is that when they play, against every team bar Madrid and United, I find myself losing interest and after a while I switch channel. I also have big problems with part of their attitude. Busquets, Alves and Mascherano are all disgusting characters. Iniesta and Messi don't dive all the time but they are cheaters, nothing wrong with that because half of the football world do the same, but they try to act like they are something else. Something better.

With fame and success comes responsibility. If you want to be considered as a all time great you need to accept your moral responsibility to respect the game and your opponents. It's fair they react against Pepé and Mourinho, they deserve it. But I can't accept that they defend Busquets when he abuse Marcello with racial slurs. It's also provoking how they act in the transfer market and how they use their position to unsettle future targets and how they act against other selling clubs. It's also provoking when they try to look better and morally above their opponents. Like they have monopoly of what is right or wrong. All in all that make me dislike the club, their philosophy and how they handle their success. Is that OK with you without you calling me and others for jealous and haters?

Why don't you show the same disdain to Real though? Surely they're just as bad in the despicable stakes, even worse at times. Everything you've thrown at Barca can be thrown at Madrid.

Also you said you're a Ronaldo supporter, you do realise he's one of the biggest cheaters to play the game of football? He probably has zillions of videos of dives alone. This is a fact right? Even on the weekend he was trying it on. It just doesn't all add up to me.

 

[Cal?]

Because if you don't win the CL twice in a row then winning:
1- The World Cup
2- The World Club Cup
3- The Euro Cup
4- The UEFA Champions League (twice)
5- The League title (three times)
6- And A few other cups and supercups
in four years count for nothing, because we see that everyday.. (let alone a few other achievements like the sextuple, their goal scoring records, some astonishing results hitting Europe's best teams for fours and fives and sixes, and the list goes on...)

I'm sure you have like 25 teams in mind that have done this.. Care to share one?

Those in italics are not won by Barcelona!! Arsenal contributed a lot of French players when they won the WC & Euro, did they win those?

2, 4, 6 have all been done by plenty of other sides before. Real in the late 90s- early 00s, Milan in the late 80s, some have won multiple CL/ECs to go with multiple titles.

No one is denying they are a great side and ONE of the best teams ever, but to outright call them the best ever, it's just stupid.

 

[7even]

Why don't you show the same disdain to Real though? Surely they're just as bad in the despicable stakes, even worse at times. Everything you've thrown at Barca can be thrown at Madrid.

Also you said you're a Ronaldo supporter, you do realise he's one of the biggest cheaters to play the game of football? He probably has zillions of videos of dives alone. This is a fact right? Even on the weekend he was trying it on. It just doesn't all add up to me.

You have know idea of my thoughts about the club Real Madrid. But for years they have been non existent at top level competition. But just to clarify my position I have post several times that I dislike the Galactio project and that I think that Florentino Peréz, and his counter part in Barcelona, is destroying La Liga.

Regarding Ronaldo I found your comments strange. Together with the majority of all United supporters I witness his journey from a young boy to a world class player plying for my team. It was a joy and probably United's best time ever regarding success and glory. To say that Ronaldo is "one of the biggest cheaters to play the game of football" is a exaggeration of epic proportions. Off course he dives and he also cheats a lot but most of the time he falls down when he fells minimal contact or enter potential dangerous fouls. I don't defend him or even like it but I understand his actions. The same way I understand some of Messi's actions.

But maybe I understand your problem with Ronaldo, he looks like a superstar and attracts all kinds of people because his shining charisma. That must hurt grey mouse's who never witness such admirations. On top of that he earns shiploads of degos and can if he will lay down all beautiful ladies who comes in his way. It must hurt to know that.

I don't care what adds up for you or not. I gave you a fair reason for my thoughts but it was impossible for you to accept this. So let's end this. My admiration for Ronaldo continue and I hope he live's a wonderful life, I life you and I can only dream of. How about that Big Boss.

 

[Boss]

You have know idea of my thoughts about the club Real Madrid. But for years they have been non existent at top level competition. But just to clarify my position I have post several times that I dislike the Galactio project and that I think that Florentino Peréz, and his counter part in Barcelona, is destroying La Liga.

Regarding Ronaldo I found your comments strange. Together with the majority of all United supporters I witness his journey from a young boy to a world class player plying for my team. It was a joy and probably United's best time ever regarding success and glory. To say that Ronaldo is "one of the biggest cheaters to play the game of football" is a exaggeration of epic proportions. Off course he dives and he also cheats a lot but most of the time he falls down when he fells minimal contact or enter potential dangerous fouls. I don't defend him or even like it but I understand his actions. The same way I understand some of Messi's actions.

But maybe I understand your problem with Ronaldo, he looks like a superstar and attracts all kinds of people because his shining charisma. That must hurt grey mouse's who never witness such admirations. On top of that he earns shiploads of degos and can if he will lay down all beautiful ladies who comes in his way. It must hurt to know that.

I don't care what adds up for you or not. I gave you a fair reason for my thoughts but it was impossible for you to accept this. So let's end this. My admiration for Ronaldo continue and I hope he live's a wonderful life, I life you and I can only dream of. How about that Big Boss.

Fair enough. I don't actually have an issue with Ronnie, he's one of my favourite players, well before Jose came along.

Mourinho's killed the magic in game almost completely and these days he's like a speedy Gerd Muller, even his assists are mostly pulling the ball back, not that's a bad thing.

I think he peaked under Pellegrini, just awesome to watch bar the clasicos. For me he was even better than his 42 goal season and his 06/07 season. He had everything, why that season of his is so underrated I don't know. fecking sensational, the performances vs Mallorca, Sevilla, Ossasuna, the incredible goal vs Almeria, performances vs Lyon etc. That season he was on fire, injury is what fecked him the most.

Anyway Madrid are back in the spotlight, I don't see anywhere near the sort of disdain from you or a lot of certain posters, BUT you don't have to explain anything to me. I have my conclusions you'll have yours.

I'm also not jealous of Ronaldo being incredibly handsome, earning serious cash or fecking fabulous women. If that was the case I would be jealous of a lot of footballers. Jealousy is a female trait, such a concept raised is bizarre for me and really has nothing to do with the discussion.

I mean I would loathe Becks for fecking Victoria even though I've always had a crush on her the fecking wanker.

 

[Cal?]

Because if you don't win the CL twice in a row then winning:
1- The World Cup
2- The World Club Cup
3- The Euro Cup
4- The UEFA Champions League (twice)
5- The League title (three times)
6- And A few other cups and supercups
in four years count for nothing, because we see that everyday.. (let alone a few other achievements like the sextuple, their goal scoring records, some astonishing results hitting Europe's best teams for fours and fives and sixes, and the list goes on...)

I'm sure you have like 25 teams in mind that have done this.. Care to share one?

Those in italics are not won by Barcelona!! Arsenal contributed a lot of French players when they won the WC & Euro, did they win those?

2, 4, 6 have all been done by plenty of other sides before. Real in the late 90s- early 00s, Milan in the late 80s, some have won multiple CL/ECs to go with multiple titles.

No one is denying they are a great side and ONE of the best teams ever, but to outright call them the best ever, it's just stupid.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Fair enough. I don't actually have an issue with Ronnie, he's one of my favourite players, well before Jose came along.

Mourinho's killed the magic in game almost completely and these days he's like a speedy Gerd Muller, even his assists are mostly pulling the ball back, not that's a bad thing.

I think he peaked under Pellegrini, just awesome to watch bar the clasicos. For me he was even better than his 42 goal season and his 06/07 season. He had everything, why that season of his is so underrated I don't know. fecking sensational, the performances vs Mallorca, Sevilla, Ossasuna, the incredible goal vs Almeria, performances vs Lyon etc. That season he was on fire, injury is what fecked him the most.

Anyway Madrid are back in the spotlight, I don't see anywhere near the sort of disdain from you or a lot of certain posters, BUT you don't have to explain anything to me. I have my conclusions you'll have yours.

I'm also not jealous of Ronaldo being incredibly handsome, earning serious cash or fecking fabulous women. If that was the case I would be jealous of a lot of footballers. Jealousy is a female trait, such a concept raised is bizarre for me and really has nothing to do with the discussion.

I mean I would loathe Becks for fecking Victoria even though I've always had a crush on her the fecking wanker.

Welcome back Boss.

 

[Plan M]

How much you wanna bet Barca forums don't have a single thread mentioning how disgusting United are. Much less one that's 26 pages long.

Why do we care?

Because deep down we hate that they are seen as the better team (and lets be fair, twice now they have proved to be the better team), and on some level we want some of what they have (and that's not just the players, but also the type of structure they have in place with the fan ownership / youth academy, etc).

Spot-on.

This is such a bitter and embarrassing thread.

 

[Boss]

Welcome back Boss.

I'm kidding



Well not about my crush on VB, she is real fine