Barcelona - a lot of moaning about them and some praise

Didn't Eduardo get a ban after a dive in a CL game? They obviously dropped that incentive quick enough.
 


Busquets clearly says "mono" to Marcelo. For those who don't know, that means "monkey."

Class.
 
Clearly? Not that I'd ever vouch for that idiot, I'm just curious who was the expert lip reader behind that.
 
He says it twice, you can see the inflection before the second "mo"
 
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Didn't Eduardo get a ban after a dive in a CL game? They obviously dropped that incentive quick enough.

Nah. The media pressed on that he should get but UEFA never charged him. It's not part of the law so why should they have.
 
What the hell is this cack?

Yes, I would LOVE to see Stoke City make it through to the Champions League (barring not in our place) and push through to the semi-final (Only if we were already out). Why? Because they would be a MASSIVE fecking underdog, and every second of every match would be nail biting. They would be playing the best brand of football they could play to WIN.

That is what matters, winning. Not how you win, just that you win within the rules of the game.

I also disagree with the "true great" teams of football being positive. First, what the hell is "positive" supposed to be. What you should say is "attacking" because all the term positive is, is a back handed way to suggest that there is something inherently good about attacking, and something bad about defending.

Defending and countering is every bit as enjoyable for a true fan of football.

There is something brilliant about a technical and smothering defensive display that still manages to put the game away.

This.
 
If that's true my dislike for him has gone up by 5 billion.

Racism's just pathetic these days Boss, as a black lad I can't pretend to advise you to ignore it but it is just pathetic and not worth getting mithered about it in my opinion mate, Busquets' is just a sad little tw*t resorting to calling coloured lads snide little names for a reaction, and don't think I'm ignoring it or condoning it by any means but it just shows that the Spanish are light years behind in culture when you have to resort to calling a fellow player names a la Stuart Pearce to Ince in December 1994...
 
Racism's just pathetic these days Boss, as a black lad I can't pretend to advise you to ignore it but it is just pathetic and not worth getting mithered about it in my opinion mate, Busquets' is just a sad little tw*t resorting to calling coloured lads snide little names for a reaction, and don't think I'm ignoring it or condoning it by any means but it just shows that the Spanish are light years behind in culture when you have to resort to calling a fellow player names a la Stuart Pearce to Ince in December 1994...

Maybe Busquets is actually a Hindu, and was honoring Marcelo by calling him a monkey.

He thinks Marcelo is GOD.
 
Maybe Busquets is actually a Hindu, and was honoring Marcelo by calling him a monkey.

He thinks Marcelo is GOD.

Well perhaps but in probability, he's just a sad pathetic racist who calls those in the minority naughty names for his self-satisfaction...

Would be funny if Keita, his midfield partner, turned round and belted him, do you think?
 
Well perhaps but in probability, he's just a sad pathetic racist who calls those in the minority naughty names for his self-satisfaction...

Would be funny if Keita, his midfield partner, turned round and belted him, do you think?

I know, I was just putting up the Harbhajan Singh against Andrew Symonds excuse :lol::lol::lol:

Not sure about this though....FIFA/UEFA don't care about cheating, but Racism is something they always get worked up about, so if he really did say it(I only know enough spanish to curse/greet/thank people) he would get charged, and Real would be making a really big deal out of it.

But that doesn't seem to be the case here...
 
I know, I was just putting up the Harbhajan Singh against Andrew Symonds excuse :lol::lol::lol:

Not sure about this though....FIFA/UEFA don't care about cheating, but Racism is something they always get worked up about, so if he really did say it(I only know enough spanish to curse/greet/thank people) he would get charged, and Real would be making a really big deal out of it.

But that doesn't seem to be the case here...

One thing I don't get about racist players is when they do when they play alongside black lads themselves.
Take Pearce when he called Ince a 'black cnut' and Incey nearly took Psycho's head off, Pearce was saying it in plain view of his team-mates such as Bryan Roy, Stan Collymore, Gary Charles etc, black lads from Forest who he played with, trained with, perhaps socialised with day in, day out.
You could say it was just a tactic to intentionally rile Ince into provocation to send him off but how can anyone ethically do that or how can a black player ethically condone that from their team-mates?
Unbelievable...
 
I know, I was just putting up the Harbhajan Singh against Andrew Symonds excuse :lol::lol::lol:

Not sure about this though....FIFA/UEFA don't care about cheating, but Racism is something they always get worked up about, so if he really did say it(I only know enough spanish to curse/greet/thank people) he would get charged, and Real would be making a really big deal out of it.

But that doesn't seem to be the case here...

Calling monkey is not meant as an honour. It is a slang in common language, and definitely not meant on racial terms when harbhajan said to symonds. But I can see why it might be thought of in such a manner and you should have common sense to avoid it.
 
Calling monkey is not meant as an honour. It is a slang in common language, and definitely not meant on racial terms when harbhajan said to symonds. But I can see why it might be thought of in such a manner and you should have common sense to avoid it.

Easy tiger, he's not being malicious, it was a joke to me as an Aussie...
 
One thing I don't get about racist players is when they do when they play alongside black lads themselves.
Take Pearce when he called Ince a 'black cnut' and Incey nearly took Psycho's head off, Pearce was saying it in plain view of his team-mates such as Bryan Roy, Stan Collymore, Gary Charles etc, black lads from Forest who he played with, trained with, perhaps socialised with day in, day out.
You could say it was just a tactic to intentionally rile Ince into provocation to send him off but how can anyone ethically do that or how can a black player ethically condone that from their team-mates?
Unbelievable...

Not just players, so many fans do the same thing, of course you then have the odd principled racist(haha) who make sure they're not hypocrites and abuse their own minority players too. People in general really are horrible.

Calling monkey is not meant as an honour. It is a slang in common language, and definitely not meant on racial terms when harbhajan said to symonds. But I can see why it might be thought of in such a manner and you should have common sense to avoid it.

I was being facetious, you know my background, so I know what he meant.
 
I know Btv is familiar with this. I'm just putting it out there before someone starts picking on it.

Good and I'm glad you're looking out for him because someone might jump on a comment when no-one here is being daft, we all think Busquets is a dirty cnut for what he said.
I just find Busquets sad more than anything...
 
Cristiano Ronaldo unhappy with José Mourinho's defensive tactics

• Ronaldo criticises coach's approach to semi-final first leg
• And Messi had it easy: 'I'd like to play against 10 men too'



Sid Lowe in Madrid
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 28 April 2011 13.25 BST
Article history


Cristiano Ronaldo says he was frustrated by Real Madrid's negative tactics against Barcelona.

Cristiano Ronaldo has revealed he was unhappy with José Mourinho's defensive tactics against Barcelona, while implying that Real Madrid would have settled for a 0-0 draw at the Bernabéu.

Asked if he liked the kind of football Madrid had played in the turbulent 2-0 defeat in the Champions League semi-final first leg, the £80m winger said: "No, I don't like it but I have to adapt to what is asked of me." He added: "This is the way it is. We have a strategy."

Ronaldo cut a picture of frustration. Having initially been asked to play as a lone striker he was seen imploring his reluctant team-mates to get forward and support him. When he was then switched to the right to take on Carles Puyol, who was being played out of position at left-back, he found himself starved of the ball as Mourinho's side pursued their policy of containment.

"Being honest, it is true that we did not have a shot on target when it was 11 against 11 but 0-0 is not a bad result at home. We could have gone [to Camp Nou] and scored. We didn't play well but the game was under control."

Before the match the talk was of a head-to-head with Leo Messi over who could lay claim to being the world's greatest player but in the event the Portuguese winger found himself overshadowed.

"Messi?" he replied, when asked about the Argentinian's two goals. "It's easier against 10 men. I would like to play against 10 men too, like he does. It is no excuse but they always play against ten men.

"I don't understand why this always happens. I couldn't talk to the referee because if I had I would have got a card for sure. The ref sent off Pepe: what more can I say? Every year is the same.

"I feel bad for us and for Mourinho – because it always happens to him. Barcelona are a great team but these guys have a lot of power off the pitch too. Chelsea, Inter, Arsenal. It's always the same. Is that a coincidence?"


Where does he say he was unhappy with Mourinho's tactics?
 
I know, I was just putting up the Harbhajan Singh against Andrew Symonds excuse :lol::lol::lol:

Not sure about this though....FIFA/UEFA don't care about cheating, but Racism is something they always get worked up about, so if he really did say it(I only know enough spanish to curse/greet/thank people) he would get charged, and Real would be making a really big deal out of it.

But that doesn't seem to be the case here...
Bhajji's excuse or story was that he was calling Symonds Maa-chod.
 
Cristiano Ronaldo unhappy with José Mourinho's defensive tactics

Where does he say he was unhappy with Mourinho's tactics?

The journalist does not write the headline.

But Ronaldo has stated he is not pleased with the tactics.
 
Ah. Just read it.
agree with your thoughts. Real were highly defensive. But who knows what they had planned to do in the last 15 mins if not for being 1 man down.

What if mate, what if?
Life's full of what ifs...
I can't deny Barca's dirty tactics but in all honesty Real were poor too.
Had it remained 0-0 then who knows but even with Marcelo you wouldn't have stopped either goal.
 
Putting Unicef on your jersey must be some sort of immunity, bunch of players rolling about at every little touch and Messi is looked at like some saint when his behaviour hardly reflects it. He may not show his petulance like what Ronaldo does, but I've never seen Ronaldo spit at an opponent before.
 
Putting Unicef on your jersey must be some sort of immunity, bunch of players rolling about at every little touch and Messi is looked at like some saint when his behaviour hardly reflects it. He may not show his petulance like what Ronaldo does, but I've never seen Ronaldo spit at an opponent before.

Nor shoot the ball towards the crowd and say "what did I do ? " . Messi is a cnut.The only decent players in the Barca team are maybe Abidal and Keita
 
Nor shoot the ball towards the crowd and say "what did I do ? " . Messi is a cnut.The only decent players in the Barca team are maybe Abidal and Keita

That's racist!
Seriously though Kou-kou, as an African kid in France playing footy, did you ever have anyone turn round and shout racist abuse at you ever?
I know the modern hot-spots are Russia and obviously Spain but did you ever have it in France?
 
That's racist!
Seriously though Kou-kou, as an African kid in France playing footy, did you ever have anyone turn round and shout racist abuse at you ever?
I know the modern hot-spots are Russia and obviously Spain but did you ever have it?

Yes Johnno, I was subjected to racism in France when I was younger (in the region of Alsace Lorraine)I felt more pity towards the people who insulted me than anything else.
Tbh I can't think of other players in the Barca team who aren't moaning,faking little bitches than the 2 I mentioned.
 
Is it only wishful thinking of me that the UEFA or FIFA would step in and go against this horrible playacting?
 
Yes Johnno, I was subjected to racism in France when I was younger (in the region of Alsace Lorraine)I felt more pity towards the people who insulted me than anything else.
Tbh I can't think of other players in the Barca team who aren't moaning,faking little bitches than the 2 I mentioned.

Sorry you had that sort of shite as a kid mate, that's a more provincial area of France isn't it with less ethnicity than the urban areas of Paris, Marseilles, Lyons etc.
I grew up in area called Cheetham Hill in Nth Manc with a high proportion of Afro-Carribbean kids so colour was never an issue for me.
As for Abidal, he weren't there so will take your word he would've refrained but as per my earlier post, disgraceful from Busquets doing that when he does actually have black team-mates...
 
Clearly? Not that I'd ever vouch for that idiot, I'm just curious who was the expert lip reader behind that.

You can't be certain but it does look incriminating the way he tries to hide his mouth with his hand.

He's such an unpleasant, cheating little prick I wouldn't put it past him doing it as a tactic to try and wind Marcelo up and get him sent off. Almost worked too, when Marcelo stamped on Pedro. I guess justice was done when the ref didn't see the incident. Shame it wasn't Busquets getting stood on, hopefully he gets what's coming in the next leg.
 
Cristiano Ronaldo unhappy with José Mourinho's defensive tactics

• Ronaldo criticises coach's approach to semi-final first leg
• And Messi had it easy: 'I'd like to play against 10 men too'



Sid Lowe in Madrid
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 28 April 2011 13.25 BST
Article history


Cristiano Ronaldo says he was frustrated by Real Madrid's negative tactics against Barcelona.

Cristiano Ronaldo has revealed he was unhappy with José Mourinho's defensive tactics against Barcelona, while implying that Real Madrid would have settled for a 0-0 draw at the Bernabéu.

Asked if he liked the kind of football Madrid had played in the turbulent 2-0 defeat in the Champions League semi-final first leg, the £80m winger said: "No, I don't like it but I have to adapt to what is asked of me." He added: "This is the way it is. We have a strategy."

Ronaldo cut a picture of frustration. Having initially been asked to play as a lone striker he was seen imploring his reluctant team-mates to get forward and support him. When he was then switched to the right to take on Carles Puyol, who was being played out of position at left-back, he found himself starved of the ball as Mourinho's side pursued their policy of containment.

"Being honest, it is true that we did not have a shot on target when it was 11 against 11 but 0-0 is not a bad result at home. We could have gone [to Camp Nou] and scored. We didn't play well but the game was under control."

Before the match the talk was of a head-to-head with Leo Messi over who could lay claim to being the world's greatest player but in the event the Portuguese winger found himself overshadowed.

"Messi?" he replied, when asked about the Argentinian's two goals. "It's easier against 10 men. I would like to play against 10 men too, like he does. It is no excuse but they always play against ten men.

"I don't understand why this always happens. I couldn't talk to the referee because if I had I would have got a card for sure. The ref sent off Pepe: what more can I say? Every year is the same.

"I feel bad for us and for Mourinho – because it always happens to him. Barcelona are a great team but these guys have a lot of power off the pitch too. Chelsea, Inter, Arsenal. It's always the same. Is that a coincidence?"


Where does he say he was unhappy with Mourinho's tactics?

Erm... here:

Asked if he liked the kind of football Madrid had played in the turbulent 2-0 defeat in the Champions League semi-final first leg, the £80m winger said: "No, I don't like it but I have to adapt to what is asked of me." He added: "This is the way it is. We have a strategy."