That was my point when it was mentioned that Rafa got Liverpool to CL finals, meaning he must be a good manager.
This absolutely.
Benitez to Chelsea Discussion & Sack watch
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That was my point when it was mentioned that Rafa got Liverpool to CL finals, meaning he must be a good manager.
This absolutely.
Agreed.
That's the bizarre thing about the appointment. Was noone watching at Inter? Or at the end of his time at Liverpool? He was turning into a paranoid freak who noone wanted to talk to.
I hate Rafa, but I agree with him 100% in his latest 'rant'. The Chelsea fans are probably the worst in English football, it's embarrassing. They still have a great chance of finishing 4th and they're better than Arsenal anyway. Put up with having a fat cnut as your manager for a few months, support your team and try to get back into the Champions League. Changing the manager at this stage (yet again) isn't going to alter their chances IMO, especially when no one of note will be available. Better chance supporting than booing.
I'd say feck them anyway, but I am a fan of English football and I want our best teams in the Champions League.
I'd say feck them anyway, but I am a fan of English football and I want our best teams in the Champions League.
His rant at Inter.
"There are three possibilities for the club. One, 100% support for the coach and buy four or five players to build a stronger team with competition among the players to be able to carry on winning matches and trophies.
"Two, carry on like this without a project, without planning, and go ahead with one person to blame, for the whole season.
"The third," he added, "is to speak to my agent to reach an agreement if there is not this support. Simple."
"There are three possibilities for the club. One, 100% support for the coach and buy four or five players to build a stronger team with competition among the players to be able to carry on winning matches and trophies.
"Two, carry on like this without a project, without planning, and go ahead with one person to blame, for the whole season.
"The third," he added, "is to speak to my agent to reach an agreement if there is not this support. Simple."
Yeah, though Benitez can actually point to some achievements elsewhere, where Grant absolutely cannot.
Benitez would probably be doing the pointing in a slightly difficult way given that he should be wearing a strait jacket, but still.
So we support him, and are called plastic and fickle? We cant win.
Mount 'Roman out' protests on the same scale.
I agree with this, the problem with these kind of takeovers is essentially you've ruined any right you had to criticize the board or the owner. At the end of the day Chelsea wouldn't be in this position if it wasn't for him where by they're debating what world class manager they can appoint next. The same will probably happen to City as well eventually, but there is simply no where you can aim your discontent, it's a bit rich slagging off the people who spent millions to get you in to the place where you are.
I can understand Chelsea fans annoyance at the Benitez thing though. It'd be like Fergie retiring from us then we get another manager in who gets sacked after an average season, Giggs takes over when it all looks like it's gone to shit, wins a CL and FA Cup then gets sacked a few months after for someone who has openly criticized you in the past, people would be fuming and rightfully so. As I said though the main difference is people like RA have got themselves in a place where no one can really slate him, he's built the club up from being no where near league and Champions League winners to having huge success (England's most successful club since he took over.)
So will he get the sack before may?
I think getting any team to 2 CL Finals in 3 years is pretty good. You must have some ability to do that. But there you go.
Most successful and biggest joke.
It's a classic case of how much is your soul worth.
Benitez is just a symptom of what's wrong at Chelsea and unless they're prepared to address the underlying issue then these Chelsea fans have zero credibility, they're basically just spoilt, fair weather, glory hunters.
It's a classic case of how much is your soul worth.
Benitez is just a symptom of what's wrong at Chelsea and unless they're prepared to address the underlying issue then these Chelsea fans have zero credibility, they're basically just spoilt, fair weather, glory hunters.
Could be why Roman wanted him.
Why are you bothered about what other supporters think of you? Just stop booing the man for the next 80 something days you will see the difference.
There's not enough anti Roman supporters to get something like that going.
Protesting about Benitez is like one of those kids moaning about getting the wrong colour iPhone at Xmas.
Yep. That's the day they went from being worthy of competing for A-List managers, to having to go for unemployed or unproven.
Ramires is probably my favouite out of that chelsea four i listed.
I've always loved his game. I love that he's skinny as feck and does not shit out of any physical challenge. He grafts, is technically decent enough, good top end speed, just enjoy watching him play..dunno, i've always liked him well before he was at chelsea.
I always thought it was absolutely ridiculous to get rid of Ancelotti, but I remember a Chelsea fan on here (I assumed it was RisingSun or EssexRob but it's obviously not the latter considering his post above, and it maybe wasn't RisingSun, could've been back in the newbies) arguing that Ancelotti wasn't doing that good a job at the end of his tenure and it wasn't really a mistake to get rid of him. The way he presented it, it sounded like it was a popular view amongst Chelsea fans.
ancelotti would be one of my top choices for our job if we are not going to appoint someone to stay for 5+ years.
can't think of a better manager who'll just get his head down and execute to the best of his abilities quietly. Trophy haul and breadth of managerial experience is up there with the best of them in the game.
can't think of a better manager who'll just get his head down and execute to the best of his abilities quietly. Trophy haul and breadth of managerial experience is up there with the best of them in the game.
Why should it matter if a certain part of the club support boos the manager? They still support the team and cheer the players on during matches. In the past, when asked about it, Benitez would say he doesn't hear the abuse and doesn't understand what the fans were singing anyway. Now, suddenly it's the root of all problems.
Rafa knew he was a short term hiring and that he's very much a figure of hatred at the Bridge. So why bitch now? Nobody forced him to take the job and he knew what was in store.
Now, that the danger of finishing without any trophies and even outside of the top four looks quite possible, he chooses to rant at everyone associated with the club, while totally absolving himself from any blame. How convenient.
I think if you're a proud man and regard yourself as professional in what you do, despite the financial trappings of the job, there comes a time, when enough is enough.... of course he knew what he was taking on, and of course, in the back of his mind he must have known he was going to be a temp, but he wanted to get back in the saddle and give it his best shot......unfortunately for him , he was undermined from the start
Rafa has been a whipping boy of the fans from day one. Yes, he must have expected stick from the fans, but at the end of the day, it is the board's appointment, but will the CFC fans have ago at their board ? No, of course not, and the fans have never let it go....
Then to have the team sheet circulated around the 'Bridge for his first home game with the title "interim manager" emblazoned upon it must have been particularly galling and set the tone really for his tenure with players, fans and the press.....
may be the guy has had enough now, and is actively seeking the immediate bullet ! I don't blame him.....
summer's on the way, waiters will be in high demand
Rafa has been a whipping boy of the fans from day one. Yes, he must have expected stick from the fans, but at the end of the day, it is the board's appointment, but will the CFC fans have ago at their board ? No, of course not, and the fans have never let it go....
Then to have the team sheet circulated around the 'Bridge for his first home game with the title "interim manager" emblazoned upon it must have been particularly galling and set the tone really for his tenure with players, fans and the press.....
may be the guy has had enough now, and is actively seeking the immediate bullet ! I don't blame him.....
summer's on the way, waiters will be in high demand
I think Rafa genuinely believes he deserves a top job, the problem is he stopped being a good manager before he left Liverpool, everyone can see it, apart from him.
There'll be lots of fun to be had with Benitez if results going our way in the FA Cup.
...and the Scousers.
HAHAHHAA
just saw the internview in SKY NEWS now...Rafa is blaming...what's the point of hiring him? interim coach?..he going to leave anyway..short term...useless...
STUPID Roman...stupiest decision...
just saw the internview in SKY NEWS now...Rafa is blaming...what's the point of hiring him? interim coach?..he going to leave anyway..short term...useless...
STUPID Roman...stupiest decision...
You might have been talking about me. I wasn't Ancelotti's biggest fan. I thought that when he came up against top tacticians in Jose and Ferguson in two consecutive CL's he was tactically out-thought both times and lost every leg of both ties.
He didn't seem to have a plan B and was seemingly unable to change games with substitutions/tactical changes. Some of the stuff we were playing towards the end of his tenure was pretty tumescent. I don't think it's necessarily a popular view amongst our support, but it's one that I personally hold.
Abramovich out yet?
I've always thought he was a good coach, but latterly in his time at Liverpool and since, he's looked like a bloke who has lost whatever he had. Not all that dissimilar to Torres, tbh.
Ancelotti was getting boos at the end of his 2nd season. Chelsea fans didn’t give him much leeway at all, even though the previous year he won them the double.
AVB got no time at all and again the Chelsea fans turned on him too.
Roman is the only reason why they have been so successful but he is also the reason why their fans are such spoilt twats.
Also when was the last time they had a manager that didnt fall out with their big name players? So their players are spoilt shits too.
Its an hilarious mess (even though they are reigning Euro Champs).
AVB got no time at all and again the Chelsea fans turned on him too.
Roman is the only reason why they have been so successful but he is also the reason why their fans are such spoilt twats.
Also when was the last time they had a manager that didnt fall out with their big name players? So their players are spoilt shits too.
Its an hilarious mess (even though they are reigning Euro Champs).
It all started to fall apart when he lost Xabi Alonso to not get Gareth Barry. What a move.
Its beginning.
They will bite the hand that feeds them. If he fecks off they are in even worse shite.
I'm surprised he has suckered some posters in with this rubbish. As stated above, he has gone from saying that he can't hear any chants to it being the root of all problems. The rant was completely pre-meditated, coming in response to an innocuous question. The fact that he has the audacity to blame the interim title not being conveyed on his translator/agents says it all.
This is nothing more than a desperate last-ditch attempt to try and salvage credibility from a messy situation, a typical Rafa/Scouse blame apportioning/victimhood exercise.
This is nothing more than a desperate last-ditch attempt to try and salvage credibility from a messy situation, a typical Rafa/Scouse blame apportioning/victimhood exercise.
Chelsea fans didn't "turn" on AVB or Ancelotti in terms of asking for their heads, bad performances were booed.
This is the funny thing about Chelsea. As much as everyone slags the chaos there, and the fact that the lunatics clearly run the asylum - the fact is no other English club has won as many trophies as they have over the past ten years.
Then you look at Arsenal, who've got down the stability route - and they've won diddly squat for eight years.
Obviously an enormous difference in transfers/wages is a contributing factor - and I'd rather be in United's position than either of theirs - but still, an interesting debate nonetheless.
As mental as he is, nobody can say that Roman has been bad for Chelsea. And that's the mindfeck their supporters find themselves in - they can't have a go at him, even if they disagree.
i would be suprised if he is not sacked tomorrow 
Likewise, you can't blame everything on Rafa. The hierarchy have made a mess of Chelsea despite enormous investment.
Rafa does make some valid points.
It's not just a small section of fans that boo him now it's a majority and it affects how the team play and the general the atmosphere inside SB. The only time I have seen Rafa get questioned about the booing was at the City game, I am sure he heard it but there was no way he was going to admit in public that the fans hated him on his first day at work. I still think they're in a good postion to finish in the top four maybe getting knocked out of the Europa League will help them achieve this.
He does. And if I were him, I'd be annoyed that everyone (namely SSN) are calling it a rant. I thought he was quite calm in the press conference. Must be like when you're having an argument with someone and you're very calm, and they keep telling to you calm down. Well annoying!
Bit more anger in his voice in the 5 Live interview mind...bordering on rant status.
I agree - RDM should never have been sacked and Benitez should never have been appointed. Even if they didn't rate Di Matteo, his blip wasn't bad enough to warrant being sacked 6 months after winning the FA and European Cup. He had completely overhauled our playing style and we were playing some excellent stuff, still well in touch in the title race.
It should have been obvious to everyone involved that this unseemly marriage of convenience was doomed to end in disaster - including Benitez and the Chelsea board.
That is the problem when you have clueless advisors floating around trying to sort out jobs for the boys. You've got Michael Emenalo as Director of Football, someone headhunted from an under-12 girls team in America because he was old pals with Avram Grant, another toad who should have been nowhere near the boardroom of a top football club. Emenalo was angling for a job for his old pal from Spain, Benitez and naively thought that the fans would accept him.
The way the club is run is rotten to the core - a cabal of nodding dogs, shady advisors and nepotistic promotions.
If you could turn back time would you wish RA had never bought Chelsea and not won all those titles?
Imagine that, Terry would've never won a thing, which would have been so much more appropriate to the cnuts career.