fecking hell some big names in that list. Llorente and Edinson Cavani. Why are these up for sale?
I would be very surprised if Ancelotti said that by the way
I would be very surprised if Ancelotti said that by the way
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It could well be true, but its funny how anything positive about Berbs he will have no doubts.
But if you posted a quote about him leaving he would rubbish it
But if you posted a quote about him leaving he would rubbish it
They probably aren't, I imagine they are trying to drum up interest so that they are in a stronger bargaining position when they come to renew their contracts.
SkySports are running with the story now and has a little more to it, so seems the comments are slightly true.
Although, it does mention that the calls of come from agents, not the clubs, could just be the case of money grabbing agents trying to get a sale!
Weird that Ancelotti would reveal something like that.
Unless he was trying to be tongue in cheek.
Unless he was trying to be tongue in cheek.
We will not sell Berbatov this January, you can quote me on that and ban me for 3 months here if we do. Fergie has always emphasis on 4 strikers in his squad and he is one of them. Owen and Diouf don't count. In fact i think we'll extend his contract for a further year
It was on manutd.com.
What is the situation with Berbatov, Sir Alex did come out and say we would take up the option to extend his current deal for a further year. I'm a big fan of Berbatov and would be keen to keep him on, he brings loads of quality to the team.
No-one knows, that's football. It's all pretty much guess work in here.
If you're a big Berba fan then I suggest you believe that SAF was telling the truth regarding the extension and hope that means he wants him to stay for at least another season.
Bayer Leverkusen know nothing of speculation linking them with a January move for Dimitar Berbatov - and will not make a summer bid either.
The Bulgarian was widely reported to have flown to Germany earlier this week, which led to speculation linking him with Leverkusen and Bayern Munich.
Now Leverkusen, who sold Berbatov to Tottenham in July 2006, have confirmed that they have no interest in bringing the striker back to the BayArena.
"I have been reading that Dimitar (Berbatov) would have flown over to Frankfurt and that we would be in for him there to negotiate a transfer. That was interesting news to me," Bayer Leverkusen executive Wolfgang Holzhauser told Express. "I am clearly out to never say never, but this is nothing we are looking forward to at this point in time.
"And from today's point of view I would also say we are not after him in the coming summer."
Speaking to the Russian media, his agent Emil Danchev also insisted that a move was not on the cards, after Anzhi Makhachkala and CSKA Moscow were also linked.
"Usually I don't comment on speculation from the press. They can say whatever they want," Danchev told Sovetski Sport.
"But the only thing that I can say is that at this moment the eventual transfer of Berbatov to another club is not on the agenda."
The Bulgarian was widely reported to have flown to Germany earlier this week, which led to speculation linking him with Leverkusen and Bayern Munich.
Now Leverkusen, who sold Berbatov to Tottenham in July 2006, have confirmed that they have no interest in bringing the striker back to the BayArena.
"I have been reading that Dimitar (Berbatov) would have flown over to Frankfurt and that we would be in for him there to negotiate a transfer. That was interesting news to me," Bayer Leverkusen executive Wolfgang Holzhauser told Express. "I am clearly out to never say never, but this is nothing we are looking forward to at this point in time.
"And from today's point of view I would also say we are not after him in the coming summer."
Speaking to the Russian media, his agent Emil Danchev also insisted that a move was not on the cards, after Anzhi Makhachkala and CSKA Moscow were also linked.
"Usually I don't comment on speculation from the press. They can say whatever they want," Danchev told Sovetski Sport.
"But the only thing that I can say is that at this moment the eventual transfer of Berbatov to another club is not on the agenda."
Will this quash the rumours then.
Wonder if he'll feature for us against Arsenal at all. Personally, I wouldn't play him. I'd save him up for some of our games against the smaller sides in the league.
I doubt he will start, I just posted that because they are saying he went to see a specialist in Germany (as opposed to thrashing out a transfer with Leverkusen).
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Right now, Welbeck cant be dropped - he's probably our most in-form striker
For this window yes.
Plus, I think Welbeck's the perfect type of player to play at Arsenal: a pacey, physical striker, who can trouble their defence.
If we have a slow team i.e a midfield encompassing scholes and or giggs. Berbatov should play to hold the ball up, if we are playing Anderson and Carrick or even by some miracle Cleverley go with Welbeck.
Getting really tired of Berbatov barely getting any action.
Far too good for this. He is wasting his amazing talent playing the Michael Owen role.
Should have come on for Welbeck earlier. No nead for Hernedez in a game like that.
Far too good for this. He is wasting his amazing talent playing the Michael Owen role.
Should have come on for Welbeck earlier. No nead for Hernedez in a game like that.
yup - or he could've come on for Welbeck and Hernandez for Giggs. Might as well sell him and get some precious dosh in if we're not gonna use him. Something else for their tiring defenders to think about might've brought results. Not criticising Welbs as he did well on the whole in a thankless task.
We need him in the Europa League.
I really don't see the point of him being here anymore. He's clearly 4th choice. The game was crying out for him today and he still didn't come on until it was way to late.
Properly frozen out. I will be shocked if he stays at the club for next season.
I don't know why Fergie is treating him like this tbh
I'm surprised at the way some people are talking about him. He wasn't really frozen out today at all, in all honesty.
By not including him, Fergie made a very wise choice. Sure, he had been on a good goalscoring run, however we saw that he's still the same Berbatov in the away game to Newcastle. When playing against bigger side who you'll struggle to beat, he's not a player you want on the pitch. He generally goes missing in those situations, and doesn't make much of an impact. With the exception of that hat-trick when we played them at home, can you think of many big games where he's been brilliant for us?
He still has an important role to play for us, however that's going to be mainly assuring that we can convincingly beat some of the smaller teams in the league, by putting a few past them. It's what he's best at.
By not including him, Fergie made a very wise choice. Sure, he had been on a good goalscoring run, however we saw that he's still the same Berbatov in the away game to Newcastle. When playing against bigger side who you'll struggle to beat, he's not a player you want on the pitch. He generally goes missing in those situations, and doesn't make much of an impact. With the exception of that hat-trick when we played them at home, can you think of many big games where he's been brilliant for us?
He still has an important role to play for us, however that's going to be mainly assuring that we can convincingly beat some of the smaller teams in the league, by putting a few past them. It's what he's best at.
But he has been frozen out for smaller games too. He has started 9 games out of 34 in all comps all season.
The Caf when Berba plays:
The Caf when Berba doesn't play:
The Caf when Berba doesn't play:
I'm not saying that he's going to start all of the smaller games. If someone like Hernandez or Welbeck is playing well, then it's understandable for us to stick with them ahead of Berbatov.
Putting this in here rather than de-rail the DDG thread.
For the money paid Berbatov has been a failure. But not really.... if that makes sense. If we'd have paid 10-15mil for him then I'd say he's beed a very good signing but for the cash we did pay you expect better than him to be 3rd or 4th choice.
For the money paid Berbatov has been a failure. But not really.... if that makes sense. If we'd have paid 10-15mil for him then I'd say he's beed a very good signing but for the cash we did pay you expect better than him to be 3rd or 4th choice.
I'm guessing you're one of the people that go to the ends of the earth to defend him and have become oblivious to his flaws. He doesn't serve much of a purpose and that is why he isn't getting game time. We have 3/4 other strikers that offer either solid contributions or goals. Berbatov is neither here nor there.
I think that branding him as a failure for the fee we paid for him is harsh. He's debatably been disappointing for that price, but you'd say that a player like Veron was a failure. Berbatov certainly doesn't belong in that same category.
Hmmm perhaps. He's not been a success though.
For that much money the very least you expect is for him to be a first team player and he's never really been that.
3 out of his 4 seasons have certainly not been worth the cash. Like I said in the other thread, last season has meant his time with Utd has been worthwhile. And saved him from being put in the same bracket as Veron
But he will never go down as a great Utd player when he does leave.
Yeah I can see where you're coming from. He's been somewhere in the middle, I think. Certainly not a runaway success for that price, but hardly a failure either.
Personally I think he's been handled terribly by SAF. Look at the end of December; he started three league games in a row and scored in all of them (six goals in total). Then he starts the next game against Newcastle and SAF gives him 50mins before taking him off, hadn't he earned a little more faith than that? He's played 2 minutes since then and frankly I wouldn't blame him if he handed in a transfer request and made a big scene like any other player would do in his situation.
To his enormous credit he has been a model pro since arriving at Utd, all this in spite of getting little support from the fans or barely any faith from a manager who clearly believed he was once worth £30 million. He won the golden boot last season and was instrumental in our 19th title and still he wasn't assumed to be first or even second choice at the start of the season, it's an absurd situation.
I just think its clear Fergie does not trust him. Absurd or not, if the manager doesnt fancy him..who are we to argue with that?
Stop trying to split hairs Cheesy!
There are only successes and failures when we are talking someone with that talent going for such a huge fee. Berbatov has been a complete failure.
Why? Because he was bought as a Cantona type figure, an inspirational talisman who could make the difference in big games. He was to be the final piece in our jigsaw, an irrepressible genius in the mould of a Cantona, Zola or a Bergkamp.
You may argue that he has scored goals and has been a top scorer, but the fact remains he was only in the side because of a lack of competition for a place at that time. He has never been a first teamer, and even now is dropping down the pecking order at an alarming rate.
Considering he has had 3 full seasons at the club, never managed to break into the first team off his own merit, and in short has consistently failed to produce anywhere near what we know he is capable of, he has been a massive disappointment.
Fergie bought him to be our inspirational genius. Does anybody really believe that if Fergie had his time again he would spend £30m on Berbatov?
If they do not, then that would have to mean he has not justified his signing, and therefore has to be considered a complete and utter expensive failure, as Veron was before him.
I do defend him, yes. If Fergie isn't going to play him then he should be sold. He doesn't serve much of a purpose? Well he won't if he's never played is he?