Saw he score twice today. Great 
Berbatov | Fulham player
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The first goal was class. Great player.
Fulham boss Martin Jol on Dimitar Berbatov's two-goal home debut: "That was a great afternoon - almost similar to the afternoons when [Mladen] Petric scored twice on his debut and last year when (Pavel) Pogrebnyak came in and scored two goals on his debut. It was a similar feeling. I was ever so pleased. There is space for optimism because Berbatov is a top, top striker. But so is Hugo Rodellega and I'm very happy with my strikers. Berbatov wants to play games, of course he didn't play a lot of games at Manchester United, though last year he was still their top scorer I think. He wants to play his football - he's 31 now. He played in midfield, won the ball back, was at the back heading balls way from our box - he was different class. Today, he was almost the complete footballer."
Is this is the same Berba who played for us?!
Is this is the same Berba who played for us?!
Yes. A world class footballer who is a joy to watch.
Love watching him play..Shame it didnt work out as well as we/he would've liked..
I've always been a Berbafan but still that sounds like someone else entirely!
Berba will thrive at being the main man in the team - he needs a team to be built around him, which didnt happen with us as we are more about players being part of a big squad and fitting into a certain system.
Scored more goals this season than Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez combined.
Pleased for him. Not really surprised either.
The only surprise is why he wasn't in more demand.
The only surprise is why he wasn't in more demand.
Incredible sense of humor.
Martin Jol: "I was ever so pleased."
Obviously fake quotes, what football manager would say that?
Obviously fake quotes, what football manager would say that?
Probably the same one I saw saying "He was always top scorer at United" earlier today
You can add Pele, Zico, Charlton, Law & Best in that quote.
Well, not really.
Shit main point, great tag line.
fair play to him, 2 goals on his full debut, looks like he will thrive at Fulham
This thread is embarrassing .
I agree it was a shit point and yes, it is.
Quality first goal from him today
They like the thought of him as a Fulham player. You can see why. Great debut. Best of luck to him.
Fergusons biggest blunder as a coach. what a great player Berbatov is.
Wishing him best things. When given a chance, he's still capable of producing Bulgarian magic.
found his level. hope he hits 20x for them (zero against us of course).
Hope he gets 15+ goals in the league this season.
I hope RvP and Rooney score more though, and 10+ for Welbeck and Hernandez too
I hope RvP and Rooney score more though, and 10+ for Welbeck and Hernandez too
He's gonna remind a lot of people how good he is. He seems to have adapted well to their team. They already seem to trust him as their go-to guy when they get near the box. He's just smarter than everyone else.
Dont think anyone will be surprised to see him score a decent amount of goals against the average and lower teams in the league
Class player, sign him up!
What do you mean "found his level"? He's still in the same league he played in when he played for us. So Fulham aren't as good as us but if anything, their "level" is a lot tougher than ours because they are more equally matched with more teams in the league than we are. The fact he's scoring goals for them sort of suggests he's actually above Fulham's "level," if we're going to give them one, does it not?
His struggles at United were in his head.
He's clearly more comfortable being the main man for a smaller club, with less pressure.
I reckon he'll make a few clubs regret not going in for him though.
He's clearly more comfortable being the main man for a smaller club, with less pressure.
I reckon he'll make a few clubs regret not going in for him though.
He didn't struggle at Utd though. It seems as if many people a re-writing history to an extent. We aren't talking about a player who didn't have success with us. Just because SAF chose to another direction doesn't mean it was the right direction or that Berbatov failed. You'd think we were talking about Forlan, not a player who won the golden boot in a title winning season. Last season he scored 7 goals when only given 513 minutes. The season before that he scored 21 goals in 2210 minutes. That suggests he was very comfortable at United and playing with pressure.
A team needs to be built around him.
In his first season here, it was Ronaldo the main man, then Rooney. After that we had Rooney act like a cnut, and play like one, so we were reliant on Berba only to lead the team. And that's when he went on to score 21 goals by January.
Berba was never a failure. It was SAF going to a new direction and changing the style. Berba was sacrificed
In his first season here, it was Ronaldo the main man, then Rooney. After that we had Rooney act like a cnut, and play like one, so we were reliant on Berba only to lead the team. And that's when he went on to score 21 goals by January.
Berba was never a failure. It was SAF going to a new direction and changing the style. Berba was sacrificed
Of course he fecking struggled. He wasn't an absolute failure but he failed to fulfil expectations. He failed to show his best stuff on a regular basis. He failed to fit into the team. He failed to reproduce his form he had at Spurs. He failed to forge a successful partnership with Rooney. He failed to perform in the CL or against the best PL sides regularly. He failed to score a shit ton of relatively easy chances. Stats don't tell the whole picture. Berbatov clearly failed to make the step up.
Overall he did well for us but not as well as he could have done given his talent. He failed to achieve what is required from a United player and that is why he was sold. When he was still here obviously SAF says to him and to the press that we were changing style, but realistically if Berbatov had been performing better then he would have stayed in the team and he would still be here now.
He had the talent to be a far better player than he showed for us. Frankly I think it's insulting to Berbatov to suggest that he was a success here.
No it doesn't. His record clearly showed that he was much more prolific against the lesser teams than the big teams, in that was the Berbatov dilemma, he was uncomfortable with the pressure at the true elite level.
He is a great player and personally I feel him to be a tier up from Fulham, say a Spurs or a Valencia in Spain, however, I do not feel that he is top tier, technically certainly but psychologically - definitely not.
He's a mystery. Sometimes I think he didn't gave the mentality for a top club. Other timed I geek it was our style that didn't suit him. Most likely the latter. Maybe.
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Rocket science. A grear forward scores tons of goals when he gets enough play time.
Rooney in his new book mentions that some players couldn't handle Fergie's beratings at half time and then their heads would drop for the second half. Berbatov could be one of them, it wouldn't surprise me.
Berbatov was always more comfortable in the free role behind the main striker - that is a role that Rooney mainly played for us.
Using berbatov as the playmaker and building the team around him works well for his attributes, unfortunately for him IMO we had a better player than him in his position.
So pleased though that he has gone to a team that plays good attacking football, and he can play regularly and enjoy the rest of his career. He doesnt deserve the hate he gets half the time, sure it didnt work out here overall but he did have a good couple seasons.
I do love watching him when on form, but his annoyances are still there, look at fulhams 3rd goal. Berbatov laid the pass off for the counter attack, and instead of busting his ass into the box to get his hattrick, he just walks towards the box and does not even enter it by the time sidwell hits the net.
He could have got a debut hattrick, but thats berbatov all over... would rather not sweat than get that extra goal; thats just why it didnt work out for us.
Using berbatov as the playmaker and building the team around him works well for his attributes, unfortunately for him IMO we had a better player than him in his position.
So pleased though that he has gone to a team that plays good attacking football, and he can play regularly and enjoy the rest of his career. He doesnt deserve the hate he gets half the time, sure it didnt work out here overall but he did have a good couple seasons.
I do love watching him when on form, but his annoyances are still there, look at fulhams 3rd goal. Berbatov laid the pass off for the counter attack, and instead of busting his ass into the box to get his hattrick, he just walks towards the box and does not even enter it by the time sidwell hits the net.
He could have got a debut hattrick, but thats berbatov all over... would rather not sweat than get that extra goal; thats just why it didnt work out for us.