in his own right means in his own way, mate
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Good point. Possibly very likely.
in his own right means in his own way, mate
It looks like I had misunderstood you, and in process causing a long debate.
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It's possible that Fergie tried but Berb refused a move because he wanted to run down his contract. That way he's on a free and United get zilch for him. We don't know what, if anything, may have gone on behind the scenes but if Berb felt badly treated for some reason this may be his way of repaying their kindness.
I always thought something like this would be the case. I imagined though that any teams who came in for him last season were scared off by a £15m price tag and £100k+ a week (as I'm sure could be the case this Summer, even if the initial fee will be less).
It's backed up by the fact that there wasn't anyone seriously linked with him last Summer, you heard stories regarding inquiries etc but they seemed to die a death quite fast.
I just hope his wage demands won't stutter any moves for him this season, would be a terrible shame seeing another season of him barely featuring.
Didnt the PSG manager come out and say that they wanted Berba but United told them he wasnt for sale? They arent a club who'd have been put off by a 15mil valuation or 100k a month.
As i see it, SAF like all of us, did not predict Welbeck to fit in as seamlessly as he did. With chicha just in his 2nd season, i totally understand him not letting go of a senior striker. As it turned out, Welbeck fitted in like a glove and with Rooney playing almost all games, berba couldnt get much of a look in.
The reason I don't think this is the case is because even when Welbeck and Hernandez were going through a bad run of form (almost at the same time), Berbatov still did not get a run of games.
It was also apparent from first game to last that he was a backup at most (after Welbeck's injury vs Arsenal, Berbatov still only started 1 of the 4 important games).
Yes because he'd hardly featured till then. It'd have been a risk putting him in after him not having played many minutes. Also, i dont think SAF trusts Berba for the big crunch games really. that must have played a part.
So still no offers for Berbabench?
Actually we should keep him around just for the sill jokes you can make with his name.
Actually we should keep him around just for the sill jokes you can make with his name.
Was thinking if Kagawa makes us switch to a 4231 or the like, Berbatov is a pretty useful sub to put in for the Japanese player.
Would give us Rooney, Welbz and Chica for the out and out striker role, and Berbs, Giggs and Kagawa for the AMF position.
Would give us Rooney, Welbz and Chica for the out and out striker role, and Berbs, Giggs and Kagawa for the AMF position.
How about we offer Spurs 25mil + Berba for Modric?
Hernandez had hardly featured either (after his busy Summer), but he was trusted. The first game (the 8th) Berbatov started was the same game as Owen, Fryers, Amos, Fabio, Diouf and Macheda. I think Fergie's intentions were pretty clear from the get-go. He had to perform very well in his limited opportunities to command a starting role, which he did but very sporadically (a common theme for his time here). I think from Fergie's perspective he'd be given up-teen opportunities undeservedly to prove himself in the first 2-3 years and out of those opportunities he only performed probably 1 in 4, usually against poorer opposition at home.
From the manager's actions it seems unlikely that Berbatov was in his primary plans last season (because of the previous three). It is also unlikely that with our strict wage budget that we were happy to pay a 6 figure weekly salary to a backup player.
Paddy Crerand seems to think Sir Alex has said he'll stay for the final year of his deal - but Stewart Gardner tried to correct him by saying that would only be if no team came in for him.
Sounds like neither knows anything useful, but at least Berba's been mentioned.
Sounds like neither knows anything useful, but at least Berba's been mentioned.
Would be a shame if he stays and doesn't get any game time, a big waste of his talent and he's not getting any younger.
Is he still here?
Any other club seem truly interested in him yet?
Well this has popped-up on Twitter:
ManUtd Stuff @ManUtdStuff
Galatasaray president on Berba: "The Bulgarian is a great forward. I want him to join us but, of course, the coach has the final word."
ManUtd Stuff @ManUtdStuff
Galatasaray president on Berba: "The Bulgarian is a great forward. I want him to join us but, of course, the coach has the final word."
I want him to stay!
Shit if Berbatov thought last year was bad, if he stays this year, we've already physically replaced him rather than just shunned him out.
If no other team comes in for him, or at least no top team, whats the conclusion?
Very high wages or the better clubs dont rate him at this point?
If I was PSG I'd snap him up.
Fergie always want players who want to be at United to stay. The classic problem is that if you are fourth choice, then you wont play much or at all. If Berbatov is unhappy at not playing but doesnt want to leave, Fergie wont have objection I think.
I prefer him to stay but I sympathize him if he does though.
I prefer him to stay but I sympathize him if he does though.
It's almost certainly the wages to how much they rate him ratio. If he were on £50-60k a week there'd probably be 6-7 clubs in the Premier League alone chasing him.
Nobody wants him.
Will be interesting to see how this turns out. Will he drop wage demands to play football?
If he stays with us next season he is officially Winston Bogarde part 2.
The lazy fecker.
Will be interesting to see how this turns out. Will he drop wage demands to play football?
If he stays with us next season he is officially Winston Bogarde part 2.
The lazy fecker.
Well that's just bollox, isn't it?
Which is a bit of a theme when it comes to your contributions on this topic.
SAF played a bad hand by keeping him last season even though he had little intention of using him.
Berba can play his card by refusing a transfer and digging his heels in. Not many clubs can afford a transfer fee plus £100k a week for a 31/32 year old.
I think the chances of him leaving are dwindling.
Berba can play his card by refusing a transfer and digging his heels in. Not many clubs can afford a transfer fee plus £100k a week for a 31/32 year old.
I think the chances of him leaving are dwindling.
Whatever transfer fee United are holding out for will also be a factor.
Last couple of comments are unfair on him. A player his quality and transfer fee is a good investment at 90k pw
It's crazy that he hasn't already been snapped up. He could do a job for anyone for at least another two seasons, including us if asked to. Like Teddy, you'll never have to worry about him losing his pace.
Can't imagine it is more than 8mill. Should be no problem for a number of clubs around Europe and the PL.
Well why aren't clubs banging the door down for him?
There are a fair few clubs in Italy and Germany I felt would be after him. If not them, then the likes of PSG, Malaga or Galatasaray.
Honestly I was expecting almost a bidding war between these sides for his signature.
The transfer window just opened, there's still time for things to happen Randall. Please don't start talking bollocks again.
Its the second of july. They will pursue younger targets first. But you expected a bidding war and since one hasnt occurred by the 2nd of july according to what we know hes not worth it?
Oh right. Randall Flagg off the internet reckons Berba's for sale for 8m quid. Cheap at the price, if you ask me.
Hopefully a few Directors of Football read this thread and we'll get an offer in the next week or two.
I don't talk bollox. Most things I've ever said about him and his signing have been proven correct, I'm still waiting for apologies from many posters in this thread.
I would have felt that he was the next best thing to a free agent and that clubs who wanted him would try getting it done as early as possible. Both the club and his agent have suggested he is on the way, not that it wasnt already obvious. He will be cheap and is in his early 30's.
Just because the transfer does not become official until July 1st does not mean it cannot be wrapped him up 40 or so days ago.
I will be shocked if we get much more than that. I would say absolute max will be 12million. Only that if a couple of clubs go after him.
How are we going to get him out?
Leave a trail of fags, brylcream, couch potato accessories, tv remotes etc leading out of OT to a rich club? Perhaps Anzhi whatever-they're-called
Leave a trail of fags, brylcream, couch potato accessories, tv remotes etc leading out of OT to a rich club? Perhaps Anzhi whatever-they're-called
Think he can do better than Galatasaray, but at the moment that's proving to be wrong.
Going on the tour apparently.
We should look to get him off the wage bill, even if it means selling him for less than he is worth.