All things considered you'd have to say miss. I don't think it was all down to him though.
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All things considered you'd have to say miss. I don't think it was all down to him though.
Miss but worth the money simply for the Hatrick vs Liverpool.
Neither a hit or a miss.
He certainly had a poor first 2 seasons. You can argue and throw as many stats as you like at me to attempt to prove otherwise. I watched every game and he was so frustrating. He also produced a couple of pitiful performances especially in the CL and towards the end of the both the 1st two seasons in league and cup games.
His 3rd season he came through for us. He had some fantastic games. But it was clear once we got Rooney back to full fitness he was never in Fergie's plans. We ended up looking a better side with him out of the team in that 3rd season for me.
He should have left after he was dropped for the CL final. It was a clear hint from Fergie. But he stayed and his 4th season was predictably a wasted year.
I think he should have gone to Juve, and try to be a star in Serie A. I think he would have been a hit. He has taken the easier option with Fulham, for whatever reason.
I don’t wish any hard luck on him for the remainder of his career and I will watch with interest. I am certain he will become their main man very quickly.
But I am pleased he has left Utd. He never felt like a Manchester Utd player to me and I was always baffled with the adoration he received from some of our fans. Far better Utd players have left this club over the past 20 odd years and have left a much greater legacy than Berbatov.
He certainly had a poor first 2 seasons. You can argue and throw as many stats as you like at me to attempt to prove otherwise. I watched every game and he was so frustrating. He also produced a couple of pitiful performances especially in the CL and towards the end of the both the 1st two seasons in league and cup games.
His 3rd season he came through for us. He had some fantastic games. But it was clear once we got Rooney back to full fitness he was never in Fergie's plans. We ended up looking a better side with him out of the team in that 3rd season for me.
He should have left after he was dropped for the CL final. It was a clear hint from Fergie. But he stayed and his 4th season was predictably a wasted year.
I think he should have gone to Juve, and try to be a star in Serie A. I think he would have been a hit. He has taken the easier option with Fulham, for whatever reason.
I don’t wish any hard luck on him for the remainder of his career and I will watch with interest. I am certain he will become their main man very quickly.
But I am pleased he has left Utd. He never felt like a Manchester Utd player to me and I was always baffled with the adoration he received from some of our fans. Far better Utd players have left this club over the past 20 odd years and have left a much greater legacy than Berbatov.
how crass - the man is class
The best post in this thread. Completely agree.
That's the most expensive hat-trick ever, Sir.
Big miss IMO considering he is the club's record signing.
Miss.
He may have got a golden boot and a couple of prem titles but he was brought in first and foremost to help us in Europe and sadly it just didn't work. He never really fit in with the team''s style of play and we weren't going to build a side around him to get the best from him.
He had some great moments and I'll look back fondly at his time here, but we gotta be honest and say that he did not do the job that we all hoped he'd do.
I think SAF must shoulder the lion's share of the blame, I agree with the chap who noted that it is his worst example of man-management.
It's Liverpool. Worth, every, penny.
Agree
Berbatov on twitter:
@TheRealBerbatov: I would like to say a great thank you to Sir Alex Ferguson. You are one of the best managers in the game and I thank you for believing in me
Classy guy.
@TheRealBerbatov: I would like to say a great thank you to Sir Alex Ferguson. You are one of the best managers in the game and I thank you for believing in me
Classy guy.
Is he being sarcastic?
Is this actually the real Berbatov?
It's apparently the official twitter account for him but it's not confirmed.
Possibly might not be legit - apologies if it isn't.
Possibly might not be legit - apologies if it isn't.
I am fecking gutted that Berbs is gone. Starting to sink in finally. I guess that I will start watching Fulham matches more now, really hope he does well there.
I think he contributed at least as much as several players still at the club and more than some. From the moment he was signed until now it hasn't been the most glorious chapter in Fergie's career, never mind Berbatov's.
I'm going to go with hit and miss.
Hit:
Although it was alot of money, we essentialy got what we paid for. He moved here at 27 and was the finished article, it wasn't like he was going to get significantly better. It's much different than buying a 19 year old, where you expect them to improve. We basically got the same Berbatov that was at Tottenham right down to the streaky goal scoring pattern and amount of goals scored.
Why I consider him a hit is because I feel that he played a vital role in our 19th title. It's a team game and I'll never claim he was the sole reason, but the fact is he replaced our talisman and creative force in Rooney for half a season and helped us pick up wins. Even when not scoring in some of those games, he still created chances and his overall play was very good. Like Rooney, he contributed in a big way even when not scoring goals. Having said that, being able to replace a star player and not miss a beat is an incredible achievement. Take other clubs' version of Rooney out and they'd be in trouble if they didn't have someone that could contribute for them like Berbatov did for us.
Miss:
I think Berbatov could've been so much better if he actually applied himself and immersed himself into the United way. He knows he's talented and I think he figured that was all it took. When Hernandez comes off the bench he runs onto the pitch and is closing everyone down and fighting for his place. Berbatov comes off the bench and saunters onto the pitch and just plays his prefered style of football with no urgency at all. I'll even go as far to say, that he doesn't have any fight in him.
Although a hugely talented player and joy to watch, I don't think he's built for a top club. I'm not at all surprised he chose Fulham over Juventus. At a big club the demands and expectations on performances are massive. At Fulham as long as they aren't in a relegation battle, he'll be able to play his way of football and not have to worry about competing for spots.
Hit:
Although it was alot of money, we essentialy got what we paid for. He moved here at 27 and was the finished article, it wasn't like he was going to get significantly better. It's much different than buying a 19 year old, where you expect them to improve. We basically got the same Berbatov that was at Tottenham right down to the streaky goal scoring pattern and amount of goals scored.
Why I consider him a hit is because I feel that he played a vital role in our 19th title. It's a team game and I'll never claim he was the sole reason, but the fact is he replaced our talisman and creative force in Rooney for half a season and helped us pick up wins. Even when not scoring in some of those games, he still created chances and his overall play was very good. Like Rooney, he contributed in a big way even when not scoring goals. Having said that, being able to replace a star player and not miss a beat is an incredible achievement. Take other clubs' version of Rooney out and they'd be in trouble if they didn't have someone that could contribute for them like Berbatov did for us.
Miss:
I think Berbatov could've been so much better if he actually applied himself and immersed himself into the United way. He knows he's talented and I think he figured that was all it took. When Hernandez comes off the bench he runs onto the pitch and is closing everyone down and fighting for his place. Berbatov comes off the bench and saunters onto the pitch and just plays his prefered style of football with no urgency at all. I'll even go as far to say, that he doesn't have any fight in him.
Although a hugely talented player and joy to watch, I don't think he's built for a top club. I'm not at all surprised he chose Fulham over Juventus. At a big club the demands and expectations on performances are massive. At Fulham as long as they aren't in a relegation battle, he'll be able to play his way of football and not have to worry about competing for spots.
Love you Berba. 4 years! Seems like minutes, gone in the blink of an eye! thank you for making all Bulgarians proud, thank you for the magic and good luck!
I thought the stats had put this silly myth to bed
The season when he ended up top scorer after he played merely half a season and I'm sure provided plenty of assists (??) I find it hard to believe that Rooney walking back into the team was an improvement. As a player who particularly relies on confidence I would venture he might've become even better but was rewarded with the bench for the remainder of the season.
Not a complete flop of course but if I'm being honest I'd have to say miss. From the start I didn't have high expectations from him because I felt he didn't suit our style at all, and that is the way it turned out. First season was okay at best, second was terrible, half of the third was amazing and since then he's hardly had a look in. The games he has played though he's hardly busted a gut to try and get back into the team, but for all his fantastic control (which IMO makes people think he's a better player then he really is), he's never had the right mentality to succeed at a big club like United. Was never good enough to be the main man here as well, which is what he needs in order to be at his best.
The thank you for believing in me part would make it seem like he is being, considering belief is one of the things Sir Alex has quite clearly always lacked when it came to berba
The thank you for believing in me part would make it seem like he is being, considering belief is one of the things Sir Alex has quite clearly always lacked when it came to berba
He has never publicly complained, and he leaves a classy goodbye message, and somehow people still try to read too much into it?
I reckon Berba might have a fairly quiet career after United. It happens to a few players. Going from an established player at United to playing for a mid table club, it must be hard to keep motivated.
He has never publicly complained, and he leaves a classy goodbye message, and somehow people still try to read too much into it?
Yeah it's sad from our fans.No doubt they miss the likes of Heinze and Tevez who were full of "love" when they left United
For all he have done at Spurs, coming to United on a 30M price tag, and all that's been said and done, I'd have to say a miss.
If he'd been bought for 10M, probably it's still going to border on hit/miss
We probably have to take the bullet and say he's a bad transfer overall, a pricey on, but at least we make the best of it (unlike AC. Andy fecking Carroll)
All and all, best wishes to Berbatov, he's done his bench in a gratious manner, so the best of luck with Fulham Berbatov.
If he'd been bought for 10M, probably it's still going to border on hit/miss
We probably have to take the bullet and say he's a bad transfer overall, a pricey on, but at least we make the best of it (unlike AC. Andy fecking Carroll
)All and all, best wishes to Berbatov, he's done his bench in a gratious manner, so the best of luck with Fulham Berbatov.
are berbs and carroll eligble to play today?
In this thread I was one of his biggest critics and I always said that he was never United quality and we should never have signed him (which I still think). But on the other side he is the definition of class and his behavior at United is unprecedented, the best ever from a non-academic player.
I really wish him all the best and I hope that next year in OT he will have a good acceptance from United fans.
Really he is not either Berbatop or Berbaflop but he will always be remembered as Berbaclass.
Why do you think he wasnt motivated here?
Some people still seem to think that because he didnt run for miles and miles and chase every opposition pass like a dog chasing a crisp packet that he was a lazy fecker and didnt give a shit
Im not one of them though, going to miss berba, hope he does well at fulham
Berba had his moments here and scored some class goals, he also had his shit times like every player.
I was not his biggest fan, I hope he does well at Fulham.
I was not his biggest fan, I hope he does well at Fulham.
feck me, those are such nice quotes by Berba.
I'm gonna miss him. Screw Tevez, screw Heinze, screw Morrison, screw Pogba. Farewell Dimitar Berbatov, I hope you'll be happy and successful at Fulham.
What brilliant quotes those are. He's a class act. Most players would have created a ruckus at playing as little as he did last season with top youngsters ahead in the pecking order, but he behaved impeccably. I hope he does brilliantly for Fulham (except against).
I hope he plays well against United but still ends up on the losing side
Amazingly classy comments from Berbs there. Like most people I was so so about him. When he was good he was great but there where too many occasions he looked like he needed a kick in the ass. Hope he goes on to have a fantastic spell at Fulham. Disagree with Randall about that. Fulham are a great wee team with a super ground and good fans. It's a fashionable place for a fashionable player. Match made in heaven.
I don't think I was alone in having Berba as my favourite non-academy Utd player. So much to like; his astonishing technique, the way he tried to do everything the beautiful way, his sheer class off the pitch, his unassuming character and modesty. He was an entertainer; just the kind of player I want to watch when Utd play.
Great quotes from here. He's showed class during his whole time here and has really come across as a top person. I really hope that he can do well at Fulham.