just read about Berba wanting to stay. He does not say he wants to sign a new contract. He just wants to see out the 12 months. Thats not going to happen. If he wont sign, he will be sold.
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I reckon people are reading too much into it... He just says he's DEFINITELY staying for the duration of his contract, if not longer.
Berba was more then likely offered a contract in feburary, he chose to negotiate a better deal. It's now worth asking if the deal has gone sour or if Berbs power in negotiations has dwindle given his post Jan form.
i think we are a month away from knowing whether berba is staying or he is leaving.
if he stays then he will sign a new contract when the training resumes, if he did not sign a new deal then he will be sold.
as simple as that.
if he stays then he will sign a new contract when the training resumes, if he did not sign a new deal then he will be sold.
as simple as that.
Or he might just be Berba and see out his contract play me or not and take his big final pay day next summer as a free agent.
i don't think sir alex will let him go on a free, i'll be very surprise if that happens...
He is an upstanding guy then he won't force us into a corner because that would be Tevez-esque.
no he wasn't according to his agent. a couple of weeks ago, he said the negotiations will begin in May after the conclusion of the season. Also said, he will not twist arms
Manchester open Dimitar Berbatov contract talks | Mail Online
I admit, it is is the daily fail, but its been quite publicized since February that talks had begun. Very rarely do contract talks start without an initial offer being made.
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Manchester United poised to offer Bulgarian forward Dimitar Berbatov new contract worth £150,000 a week - Telegraph
As if his manager would not twist arms
Its his fecking job!Manchester open Dimitar Berbatov contract talks | Mail Online
I admit, it is is the daily fail, but its been quite publicized since February that talks had begun. Very rarely do contract talks start without an initial offer being made.
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Manchester United poised to offer Bulgarian forward Dimitar Berbatov new contract worth £150,000 a week - Telegraph
As if his manager would not twist arms
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Used Google translate, so its not the best, but still
he forced them into a corner? was it for money or something else
no way. berba will sign a new contract or will be gone
It sounds like a load of bullshit. No agent would come out and say that unless they were absolutely desperate. Their job is to make as much money for themselves and their client. If Berbatov is getting a new contract, I imagine like Park and Owen, it will be done this week sometime.
It got very acrimonious with him and Jol to the point he sat out a game I think but lets see what happens this time. I will give him the benefit of doubt.
I would offer him a new contract but on the same terms - definetly not the £120k plus as quoted.
Heard PSG are really serious about getting him, but figure is way less than our evaluation of him. Will 13M work for us?
Yes, but he would be mad to go to PSG. If he goes he should be looking at Munich, Milan or Inter
that is what i meant actually...
Not sure they want him though. All three clubs are well-stocked with strikers, he would sit on the bench as much as at United. Or maybe even more.
yes i would take 13M for him
And replace him with?
For what reason?
I'll admit to being guilty of this myself in th epast but I don't get posts like that. How can we judge what is an acceptable sale amount? Surely it would depend on a whole load of variable factors of which we know nothing about such as: would the money go towards a replacement or not?
Would you take £13 mil in the knowledge that no replacement would be signed? That would mean going into the season with just Rooney, Hernandez, Owen and Welbeck (plus the likes of Bebe etc) which would be a huge gamble.
If we do sign Young - who is perfectly capable of playing as the second striker in addition to his role on the flanks - I'd take 13M for Berbatov. We'd have enough options in the forward positions and with Welbeck back as well we'd have more options for a 4-3-3/4-5-1 which would make the team tactically more flexible.
Of course if we're fecking loaded and have the cash to buy two central midfielders while not selling Berbatov (assuming Fergie wants Young anyway which is nowhere near certain obviously) then I'm all for keeping him. But I'm afraid we cannot afford that.
Of course if we're fecking loaded and have the cash to buy two central midfielders while not selling Berbatov (assuming Fergie wants Young anyway which is nowhere near certain obviously) then I'm all for keeping him. But I'm afraid we cannot afford that.
As said, it's unlikely we would find an equally good replacement for that sort of money so I don't see why we'd sell him for that.
As a second striker, Young is nowhere near Berbatov's quality. There would be a huge reliance on Hernandez not suffering from 2nd-season syndrome (which I think he will) and Owen & Welbeck avoiding recurrent injuries.
As a second striker, Young is nowhere near Berbatov's quality. There would be a huge reliance on Hernandez not suffering from 2nd-season syndrome (which I think he will) and Owen & Welbeck avoiding recurrent injuries.
What's our transfer budget for this summer?
I obviously have no idea about our transfer budget; it's all just speculation. Aren't we allowed to speculate on certain possible scenarios?
I don't think it's outlandish to suggest that our net spend won't be very high. I expect it to be around the 20m mark. I may be wrong of course.
I don't think it's outlandish to suggest that our net spend won't be very high. I expect it to be around the 20m mark. I may be wrong of course.
Just wondered why you think we cannot afford to buy two central midfielders whilst not selling Berbatov.
Where are you getting a figure of £20m net spend from?
Just a guess. It was "only" about 30m the last time we spent big in one summer (2007) and we have a bigger squad this time.
We'll definitely buy a goalkeeper, probably De Gea for around 18m. If Fergie really wants Young and Varane, both strongly tipped to join us, that's another 20-25m right there. That's 40m and there's still the issue of central midfield.
If Fergie wants to buy a central midfielder, that's another 15-20m (I'm not entertaining thoughts of buying Modric or Sneijder) taking the spending to around 55-60m. There's no way we'll spend that much net, there will be departures and Berbatov is one of our most valuable assets that we could do without.
Of course it wouldn't be a big shock if we just signed De Gea and Young or Varane, sell Kuszczak and Brown and be done with it for the summer.
I agree, apart from the last part. I can't see United ignoring CM again, not after losing Hargreaves and Scholes + getting humilated by Barca. The main problem is CM.
Contract extension or sold, there aren't other opportunities
Of course we won't let him run out of a contract and leave on a free, why would we do that? We can easily get £10m+ for him this Summer from one of European top sides, and I think we'll do that. Let's be honest here for a moment, he has barely been used in the past four months and while his early form was top notch, Ferguson seems to have dropped the idea of pairing him with Rooney. It mirrors a situation with van Nistelrooy, he got dropped halfway through season, we did well without him, then he got sold a year before his contract would run down.
I'm not going to debate the net spend here though because I will probably get banned for my thoughts on this subject sooner or later.
I'm not going to debate the net spend here though because I will probably get banned for my thoughts on this subject sooner or later.
Van Nistelrooy left because he wanted to leave. If Berbatov doesn't want to it's a pretty significant difference, I'd argue just as significant if not more so than any similarities.
Van Nistelrooy handed in two transfer requests(once before the FA Cup final) before getting sold. They're not comparable.
Berba wants to stay...on condition he gets lots more playing time...is the issue.
Did he say that? From what I read he said that he'd fight to get his place back.
Van Nistelrooy was dropped to the bench in favour of Saha for just one month, not half a season. He started 3 out of the first 4 games in Feb 2006, then had a hissy fit when he was dropped for the League Cup final on Feb 26th. As a result he was benched for the next 4 league games, but was back in the starting lineup on March 29th. He then started 4 of the remaining 7 league games - the last one he missed being a dead rubber against Charlton where Rossi and Richardson started. He was very quick to throw his toys out of the pram.
Conversely, Berbatov started just 3 of United's last 13 games in the league this season (one of which Rooney was suspended for, another being the dead rubber against Blackpool), and still wants to stay and play next season.
There is very little mirroring between the two situations.
Well, they are, in one sense: he was gone when Fergie wanted him gone, no sooner, no later.
If Fergie wants Berba gone, he'll sell him.
I don't think he would want to play in french football, he is an ambitous guy....or else he won't have left spurs to join us in the first place...
Don't see why he would want to leave United. He's 30y old, worked his way up from the smaller sides to the one of the best clubs in the world Manchester United in which he's valuable member of the team. From the interviews he gave you can read about him being aware that he won't play every match but that's not because he doesn't contribute much (PL's top scorer) just that Hernandez really surprised everyone with his contribution and took over his place. From what I've read my opinion is that he'll try to work harder next year which again will benefit the team by giving Hernandez real competition for the starting spot. Perhaps he looks lazy on the pitch, but lazyness didn't score him 21 league goal last campaing and think he'll try to get as many chances there'll be next year to make the best of it. Leaving United at this point of his career (or any point tbh) would be way down and he realises that.