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looks that way dont it, spouts so much shit and the ignorance, thought it was just me.
As i said if he signs for us, doubters will be proved wrong!
How about if he isnt signed by us? Perhaps you were wrong that he's the best player to buy?
you dont always get the best player you wanted, sometimes they dont wanna leave and sometimes the club dont wanna let them, and way back about 3 pages ago i addressed this and to my mind berbatov was the best available striker, although there might be someone out there who could do a good job for cheaper, there would still be doubts whether they could have been as good as berbatov.
What are you even getting at with that post?
you dont always get the best player you wanted, sometimes they dont wanna leave and sometimes the club dont wanna let them, and way back about 3 pages ago i addressed this and to my mind berbatov was the best available striker, although there might be someone out there who could do a good job for cheaper, there would still be doubts whether they could have been as good as berbatov.
What are you even getting at with that post?
Just talking some sense. I know its a foreign concept to you, no wonder you're a little shocked. But I digress - we'll make a bid for him if he's the best available striker. For sure. Why wouldnt we? Especially as he's proven in the premiership.
If we don't bid for him, perhaps he's not the best available option afterall.
ok then mate - i dont have a clue what your even getting at, must be that i dont understand sense my apologise
ok then mate - i dont have a clue what your even getting at, must be that i dont understand sense my apologise
Apology accepted. I was a bit rash assuming you'd understand something of such basic reasoning. So I apologise too.
it was sarcasm, i cant be bothered to argue with a basic moron any longer, if he signs you will be proved wrong, if not next season he will carry on to prove his quality at spurs, but you wont be watching him will ya because you only watch players we have been linked with.
Amazing. Your vocabulary is so limited you'll take my post, edit it a bit and then post it back. Plagiarism at its finest.
Exclusive: Dimitar Berbatov back at top of Manchester United's hitlist
Dimitar Berbatov has re-emerged as Manchester United's No.1 transfer target.
Sir Alex Ferguson tried to sign Berbatov last summer but Tottenham refused to sell the Bulgarian striker.
Spurs are still reluctant to let him go and have placed a £30million price tag on his head to deter suitors.
But the United boss is ready to make a fresh £23m bid in an effort to team him up with Wayne Rooney.
Fergie, who returns to work today before the United squad arrive back for preseason training tomorrow, claims he is unlikely to buy more than one player this summer.
He said: "There could be some dialogue, but I wouldn't think any more than one player. I'm looking at one or two things. People think it's easy to buy players nowadays but it's not - money plays a big part.
"Clubs with ambition don't want to sell their best players so it's not as easy as you think. We tend to look for younger ones."
Although Fergie has around £50m to spend, United are not prepared to pay over the odds for Berbatov, 27.
Dimitar Berbatov has re-emerged as Manchester United's No.1 transfer target.
Sir Alex Ferguson tried to sign Berbatov last summer but Tottenham refused to sell the Bulgarian striker.
Spurs are still reluctant to let him go and have placed a £30million price tag on his head to deter suitors.
But the United boss is ready to make a fresh £23m bid in an effort to team him up with Wayne Rooney.
Fergie, who returns to work today before the United squad arrive back for preseason training tomorrow, claims he is unlikely to buy more than one player this summer.
He said: "There could be some dialogue, but I wouldn't think any more than one player. I'm looking at one or two things. People think it's easy to buy players nowadays but it's not - money plays a big part.
"Clubs with ambition don't want to sell their best players so it's not as easy as you think. We tend to look for younger ones."
Although Fergie has around £50m to spend, United are not prepared to pay over the odds for Berbatov, 27.
Amazing article, backed up by quotes suggesting we'll sign younger players and then listing Berbatov's age as 27. I guess they ran out of younger players to link us with.
He never said he is looking for a young player. He said we tend to look for younger ones, which is true seeing as we have bought Rooney, Ronaldo, Anderson, Nani etc. in the past 5 years. I can bet we sign someone over 25?
Lets hurry up with this transfer and get him in as soon as possible,give them 25 million and saha, im sure they would take that.
ekeke is getting a little more worried now...
ekeke is getting a little more worried now...
I'll take that bet if you nudge it up to 27.
we signed veron when he was 27, blanc when he was 36, sheringham when he was 31, andy goram 37, these were all a few years ago mind but it does happen, if the right player is there, guess they were signed before you were old enough to remember though
Not sure about that one. Up until 24 you can get away with 'having potential' but thereafter you should start producing quality. I think 25 is the age when you stop being a young player.
So no deal.
Not sure about that one. Up until 24 you can get away with 'having potential' but thereafter you should start producing quality. I think 25 is the age when you stop being a young player.
So no deal.
Boo!
But I agree with the above.
How many people agree we should go for berbatov simple yes or know answers?
yes
yes
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Not sure about that one. Up until 24 you can get away with 'having potential' but thereafter you should start producing quality. I think 25 is the age when you stop being a young player.
So no deal.
This "buying a young player" quote is being blown up out of all proportion. Sure we tend to target young players, so do all clubs (apart from, maybe Chelsea). If you don't target up-and-coming players, you end up losing money, hand over fist, in the transfer market.
This doesn't mean we won't also sign an established, slightly older player, if Fergie thinks they will strengthen the team. A good example of this being Michael Carrick.
Besides, wasn't it only the end of last season when Fergie talked about targetting a player with a bit of experience?
No. Could be proved wrong, but I think we should go for someone to add to our speed, like Samuel Eto'o.
It's hard to argue with Berbetov. His age isn't a major factor, he's a very intelligent player. Playing with better players too.
He's also basically Eric Cantona too isn't he, in that he has that type of aura. The thing is, I don't really want to get too into the idea because we'll probably end up going for someone else
It wouldn't shock me, but it's not an easy transfer
He's also basically Eric Cantona too isn't he, in that he has that type of aura. The thing is, I don't really want to get too into the idea because we'll probably end up going for someone else
It wouldn't shock me, but it's not an easy transfer
Err.. no. Berbatov does not have the same aura Cantona had/has, not even close. Eric exudes victory and confidence, while Berbatov radiates lazy cuntishness. He probably smells bad too.
yes he does.
No one had heard really of Eric before he came to United (not strictly true, was known at leeds but no one appreciated how good he could be). He was a traveler basically. He played the game like he owned the ball and berbetov does the same thing.
When Eric left we went for teddy. If we'd have got berbatov instead it would have worked just as well because they all elude a confidence.
Berbatov wanted to leave spurs but was denied. He's hardly a cnut, no spurs fan would think that. Why should you?
Incidentally I saw eric in his prime, his whole time at United. In terms of technique, confidence, appreciation of teammates around him, finishing to an extent. Berbatov has all that, but it won't be appreciated while he's at spurs.
He needs a bigger stage, and to be in the champions league - and incidentally Eric should have done better in Europe as should united have though the foreigners rule obviously hurt us.
I agree, he is very similar to eric, just doesnt have quite the same swagger. Eric was just a bit better at volleying too.
As you said he just needs the platform and i think he would shine here, the stage is set for him and there is no way he wouldn't do well, he is simply too good, he plays how he wants to play, at his own pace and makes things look easy. He has genius in him and i want him here so much because i feel he would compliment our team so well, and to top it off it would unleash rooneys full potential.
I said that in another thread after reading it over. And it's true, we do tend to go for young players judging from recent big signings like Rooney, Ronaldo, Anderson Nani and the three Brazilians. It's just SAF's way of confusing the media, which in all honesty is very easily done.
It was, as a replacement for Giggs in terms of experience. But you really just don't know what he means because he obviously picks his words carefully.
A young player can have experience. And when we signed Carrick and Hargreaves, SAF wasnt talking about targetting young players. Then again, what he says and what he does arent always the same thing. But when he says it this time, he is suggesting that he's looking for younger players to fill the 1 space he feels we have. If we cant get the right players, I'm sure he'd have no hesitation in signing an older player. But not for stupid money when they arent even first choice.
I have no idea who that could be. I accept your argument against him but you really don't believe he wouldn't be first choice do you?
Ah, wires crossed. I actually meant first choice signing. ie, if SAF sat down and said "Berbatov is my man" I'm sure he'd pay whatever is needed. But if he's looking at his scouting reports looking for young players, and when we try to buy them we cant work out the deals we need, then I don't think he's going to spend more than £20 million on a second-prize so to speak.
Personally, I feel Benzema is the only player higher on the list. And it's just about impossible to sign him, so we'll then turn to Berbatov. Technically I guess that makes him second-choice, but he wouldn't be considered a 'second-prize'.
The deal for Berbatov was done last night in London 25 million is the price.
Trust me on that one..
Trust me on that one..
You have been gone so long so I can't remember how trustworthy you are
Have you ever known me to be wrong?
Well i personally hope so.
I don't believe that he would be "second prize" in any way, i am sure Ferguson has been well aware of his quality and has monitored the situation closely, possibly even lodged bids in the past. I never thought Benzema was as good as Berbatov, yet, and i didn't think it was going to be possible to sign him. It seemed quite logical, to me anyways, for Ferguson to go for Berbatov and some of the ridiculous prices being thrown about the place were unrealistic, between 23 and 28 million would make sense, all things being considered. Don't forget; a large part of the deal will be made up of clauses, if we win this then we pay that, if he is instrumental in our success next season, scoring 30 goals, then i am sure nobody would mind paying full whack for him.
What are your sources Stoned.Rose?
I actually believe you, only because i convinced myself that this was going to happen months ago.
I don't believe that he would be "second prize" in any way, i am sure Ferguson has been well aware of his quality and has monitored the situation closely, possibly even lodged bids in the past. I never thought Benzema was as good as Berbatov, yet, and i didn't think it was going to be possible to sign him. It seemed quite logical, to me anyways, for Ferguson to go for Berbatov and some of the ridiculous prices being thrown about the place were unrealistic, between 23 and 28 million would make sense, all things being considered. Don't forget; a large part of the deal will be made up of clauses, if we win this then we pay that, if he is instrumental in our success next season, scoring 30 goals, then i am sure nobody would mind paying full whack for him.
What are your sources Stoned.Rose?
I actually believe you, only because i convinced myself that this was going to happen months ago.
Cocks out ladies. Why? Because feck all else is happening.
Done deal lads.
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