Boris Johnson released from hospital

Nogbadthebad said:
There are no upsides from the tory party at all.

Raab truss and patel are co authors of britannia unchained, a book that suggests britains are the world's worst idlers and this country is a high tax, high welfare country that needs to be more like India to compete on the global stage.

Remember that the next time someone tells you corbyn is an extremist.

Gove is basically murdoch's handpuppet and more vindicitive and dishonest than johnson.

Its just bad whatever happens.
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Jesus wept.

I just took a moment to imagine this country with labour in charge. Thank god im back in the real world.
 
What day are we supposed to clap for him? Because it may coincide with the day that I like to stick my bare arse out the window.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
Jesus wept.

I just took a moment to imagine this country with labour in charge. Thank god im back in the real world.
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berbatrick said:
There's been a lot of talk about a lack of ventilators and of local manufacturing capacity generally in response to the virus - the pitfalls of having so much manufacturing outsourced. I've also seen an article posted here about a 3D printing solution to the ventialtor problem.

Here is an article written by a McDonnell advisor in September 2019.

De-Deindustrialisation
By James Meadway
After decades of deindustrialisation, the next Labour government can reboot the areas left behind  - by laying foundations for a digital industrial revolution.

A key paragraph:

Two developments are opening up this possibility. The first is the growth of what gets called ‘distributed manufacturing.’ Distinct from the older model of manufacturing, where one large factory would churn out standardised goods for consumers a long way off, distributed manufacturing relies on far smaller plants that can churn out customised products, close to their markets.

3D printing is the most obvious technology associated with this. Costs have plummeted, with viable 3 printers available for as little as $49, but at the same time their quality and sophistication has improved. Already, there are companies across the country offering access to the smaller-scale production 3D printing can provide, and future advances could include the personalisation of medicine, including even the 3D printing of replacement human organs. But the rise of the ‘maker’ movement demonstrates another, less sci-fi version of the same process — shared spaces, like Building BloQs in north London, that provide cheap, shared access to machine tools, allowing economically viable production to take place on a far smaller scale than previously seemed possible.



To call this prescient would be an understatement. This one random guy that the disgraced leadership picked as an adviser has done better than the magic of the market, and honestly this article combined with the coronavirus crisis validates my worldview so much I won't be able to resist re-posting it forever.
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Clap for Boris.. what the feck has he done to fight the virus, help getting an anti body?

How long would he need to recuperate from being on intensive care? I guess if he gets put in a coma it’ll be at least 1 year?
 
I made my comments in the wuhan thread where the discussion started and I’m not sure why I was temp threadbanned for it as I bit my tongue, although I am somewhat passionate about it all but that’s because it’s affected us all so much (by which I mean the leadership of this country under Tories where he still had his say before becoming PM).

I don’t want him to die because he’s a person and because god knows what will happen after. But understand that for some compassion is limited when there’s been zero in return for years. Not to mention how he didn’t take this seriously which will have potentially cost many lives.

That’s me done on it.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
there’s zero point is arguing the point with people who won’t listen and diametrically opposed only the political views. The Caf has always been left and labour and I know I’m in the minority on here - but in real life that’s somewhat different.
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Real life being an under-funded NHS, over-stretched teachers, food banks, child poverty and multi-millionaire MPs in country houses? Yeah, it's splendid out there. For a minority.
 
Vidyoyo said:
Was that on 5 live? There was a guy on last night saying 'he runs rings around me' on the tennis court. He also used an example that Boris played rugby at school so is therefore fit. Unsurprisingly he used to work in PR or something.

Hoping Boris is okay.
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All a bit 'boy who cried wolf' to me. Nothing in his track record to suggest this isn't just being overblown for PR purposes.

The only danger to the country even if he did die would be the chance of one of the nutters on the tory right who actually believe half of the shite they say getting in.
 
VeevaVee said:
I made my comments in the wuhan thread where the discussion started and I’m not sure why I was temp threadbanned for it as I bit my tongue, although I am somewhat passionate about it all but that’s because it’s affected us all so much (by which I mean the leadership of this country under Tories where he still had his say before becoming PM).

I don’t want him to die because he’s a person and because god knows what will happen after. But understand that for some compassion is limited when there’s been zero in return for years. Not to mention how he didn’t take this seriously which will have potentially cost many lives.

That’s me done on it.
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He wouldn’t have made the decision alone on what way the country would deal with the pandemic? he would have leant on numerous experts on disease control aswell as, i’m assuming, Britains best scientists before coming to the conclusion that they did. It’s not like he said “ah feck them all, ill do what i want”. At the end of the day he has an unborn child who could potentially grow up without a father if he doesn’t pull through and those who seemingly revel in his and his family’s suffering is pretty deplorable in my opinion. Let’s hope when this is all said and done the NHS and all its staff are given the backing they deserve from the tories.
 
V.O. said:
All a bit 'boy who cried wolf' to me. Nothing in his track record to suggest this isn't just being overblown for PR purposes.

The only danger to the country even if he did die would be the chance of one of the nutters on the tory right who actually believe half of the shite they say getting in.
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Did you not see his last public appearance and the last video he posted on twitter or whatever ? He looked ill to me.
 
jymufc20 said:
Did you not see his last public appearance and the last video he posted on twitter or whatever ? He looked ill to me.
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I'm sure he's ill. I just have my doubts that he's as ill as any other pudgy 55 year old bloke would need to be to be admitted to intensive care with this.
 
iammemphis said:
He wouldn’t have made the decision alone on what way the country would deal with the pandemic? he would have leant on numerous experts on disease control aswell as, i’m assuming, Britains best scientists before coming to the conclusion that they did. It’s not like he said “ah feck them all, ill do what i want”. At the end of the day he has an unborn child who could potentially grow up without a father if he doesn’t pull through and those who seemingly revel in his and his family’s suffering is pretty deplorable in my opinion. Let’s hope when this is all said and done the NHS and all its staff are given the backing they deserve from the tories.
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I expect he chooses who he listens to though. Agree with the last bit, and they'll probably talk about it but don't expect it to be the case in reality. Also agree that I want him to get through it, genuinely. He just hasn't shown compassion and understanding to the many people in this country who also have families, both recently and in the past. I don't think that's a particularly harsh thing to say personally.
 
SilentWitness said:
Of course you are allowed to criticise anyone. That's not what people are doing. They are actively wishing and posting about their wish that a man dies. It doesn't matter if it is Boris, Trump, Thatcher or whoever. That's not what this forum is about.
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I assume Grinner will be quality control banned shortly then?

Grinner said:
I'd happily give [coronavirus] to Trump, Rush, Hannity and Mitch.
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Grinner said:
I hate selfish cnuts like you.
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Grinner said:
Well you can go and feck yourself.
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Anyways, Boris Caughsome has some history with pneumonia and aged 55 he falls within a risk group. He’s clearly serious ill and since there’s no known cure he’s going to be very sick for some weeks even in the best case scenario. This is very serious and the government needs to be transparent and provide leadership.
 
It’s somewhat embarrassing that he became infected in the first place considering the head start the country had on the virus, and that he’s head of state. Stringent precautions should have been put in place to prevent this from happening. Utter carelessness from the British establishment.
 
Drifter said:
Mayor expelled for saying Boris Johnson ‘completely deserves this’


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/07/mayo...tely-deserves-12522731/?ITO=squid?ito=cbshare



Bit harsh.Maybe a suspension.
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her expulsion is deserved. You can criticise policy and his record, But for someone to come and say he deserves a (potentially) life threatening disease is abhorrent.

there are lots of politicians I would cross the street if I saw them coming (although I saw Starmer on the tube about a month ago), but I wouldn’t wish illness into any of them or think they deserve to be in hospital because I disagree with their views.
 
Rams said:
Anyways, Boris Caughsome has some history with pneumonia and aged 55 he falls within a risk group. He’s clearly serious ill and since there’s no known cure he’s going to be very sick for some weeks even in the best case scenario. This is very serious and the government needs to be transparent and provide leadership.
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I reckon this is going to kill him.
 
Rams said:
Anyways, Boris Caughsome has some history with pneumonia and aged 55 he falls within a risk group. He’s clearly serious ill and since there’s no known cure he’s going to be very sick for some weeks even in the best case scenario. This is very serious and the government needs to be transparent and provide leadership.
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'Boris is ill and in intensive care', 'Raab is in charge', 'he has clear instructions', 'Sunak steps in if Raab gets it bad', it's as clear as it needs to be, no matter how much the journos want to say otherwise at the daily briefing.
 
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ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
her expulsion is deserved. You can criticise policy and his record, But for someone to come and say he deserves a (potentially) life threatening disease is abhorrent.

there are lots of politicians I would cross the street if I saw them coming (although I saw Starmer on the tube about a month ago), but I wouldn’t wish illness into any of them or think they deserve to be in hospital because I disagree with their views.
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Enacting, voting for and supporting policies leading to actual death with a callous jollity = perfectly acceptable
Words = abhorrent
It's not nice to say the sort of things she said and I would not do so but unless she can alter reality with her words like a fecking witch I'd say she's further from moral abhorrence than Mr. Johnson.
Although, if I recall, you live in reality which is very different.
 
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ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
It is not and it was a terrible post.
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The quality of the post may not be good (depending on how emotive you are), but the point is very relevant.

The first reply on this thread says it all.

I've said on the main thread that this has saddened me greatly. And I've always been a "Boris hater".

However, I think it is important for the world that someone like him gets critically ill. It will save lives all around the world. You may not be able to count them or know who they are, but they will be saved. I feel sorry it was him because there were far more suitable candidates.

I would open a bottle of Champagne if it was Trump or Bolsonaro. I felt sorry for a few seconds when Bolsonaro was stabbed, but after an hour I wished the other guy had finished the job.

There is an ocean between Boris and those other two, in every sense of the word.
 
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