Very few British politicians have employed much common sense during this whole farce over the last 3 years. I don't see that changing at this stage to be honest.
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Very few British politicians have employed much common sense during this whole farce over the last 3 years. I don't see that changing at this stage to be honest.
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I don't see less chaos on the street if its cancelled.
Pretty sure the Germans wont decide the only solution is to crash out on WTO rules.
The man of the people has spoken!
He has indeed!
If it's cancelled only the Brexiters will be unhappy. If it happens everyone will be unhappy apart from a few rich spivs.
You , you mean
You , you mean
Yeah, right
nah there definitely would be major protests that turn violent but it would also be really good to see a tommy and crew go London, lose their cool in about 2 minutes flat and start screaming about killing brown people before they get the everliving shit kicked out them by locals
I've been half jokingly saying no deal was the plan all along, but starting to think it might actually be true...
I deleted the app. It is a silly place.
There won't be chaos and even if there were riots in the streets it would be worth it if that was the price of avoiding leaving the EU.
This, the types who would riot deserve everything that would come their way if they do and as you say the real reasons will come out. I don't see action though as it'll be too late.
Hopefully it causes the leavers to switch off from politics and cease to vote ever again, what a result that would be.
No merit? Even if your goal is brexit i don't see how anyone can fail to see merit in a delay, businesses and the goverment are not prepared and will not be by March end. We need more time to get legislation through and secure the temporary trading relationships.
Well let's see.
Doubt we will either.
Fine as long as it is not more time to just go round in circles.
In such a case I’d be all for the police breaking out the EU standard size rubber bullets
Absolutely.
So more studies suggesting that a lot of NI companies will move South after Brexit. I guess being in the mighty UK trade union isn't as attractive a proposition as the single market, then. Who'd a thunk it?
To be fair, NI voted against brexit.
Not blaming NI in my post.
I've been fully supportive of NI throughout. Most Irish people are.
Unfortunately that is exactly what the EU will fear if the extension to Art 50 goes long!
It is beginning to look like there is no viable solution that suits either or both parties in this country, or indeed that suits the EU. Even a total withdrawal from Brexit may not suit the EU because they would have to put up with a recalcitrant, fractious, continuing in-fighting, troublesome member; the return of Farage and Co and a continuing drag on the 'closer union' objective... the only consolation would be the UK's monetary contribution would continue, big sigh of relief perhaps, but be careful what you wish for, still has some resonance here!
I heard a radio interview today with JRM. He says that he is now 'warming' to the possibility of delaying leaving the EU for a 'few months' because that would push the date that would trigger the Backstop beyond the end of this parliament.
That would infer that he will be voting in favour of the WA.
That would infer that he will be voting in favour of the WA.
Did I just read that correctly? Macron refusing to allow delay or extension to BREXIT deadline?
No he said he wouldn't object if the UK gave a clear idea where they wanted to go. He said the UK now has to make a definite choice.
But not if they were to continue going round in circles and he wouldn't be the only one who would object.
It's make your mind up time. And parliament can't agree on anything.
So basically he'd rather force something that's bad for everyone than risk BREXIT not happening - which is the likelihood given an extension?
EDIT: Maybe I've got this wrong. What is the "new choice" he's speaking about (out of interest)?
32 months since the referendum and no clue what the UK wants other than unicorns.
3 months since the withdrawal agreement was agreed and will not be changed.
Why would anyone believe the UK will stop bickering with itself to all eternity.
I assume Macron is signalling that May cannot keep wasting everyone’s time indefinitely by “renegotiating” a deal that the other side is not willing to negotiate.
Well obviously, you vote for unicorns, you get unicorns.
Do you not think there is a real worry about losing some of the new business France was looking forward to if BREXIT doesn't happen? Even just the slightest little bit?
Choices means decisions in that context. Basically France are open to an extension if it's motivated by new decisions taken by the UK, otherwise the withdrawal agreement isn't renegotiable and France aren't favorable to an extension just for the sake of it.
Thank you
I'm glad that the agreed agreement is not negotiable. It was the one thing that has led me to believe that this will be put back to the people with a choice between remain and May's package (which will fail to get through). Is that good enough for an extension do you think?
I don't know, I imagine that it would be a clear enough outcome. Also there is an important sentence, "we don't need time, we need decisions.".
What happens in the event of remaining beyond the European elections? We have to put up candidates right?
Undetermined still but think that's likely especially if it's for a referendum. Senior EU figures were on about existing MEPs possibly staying on indefinitely
If there was a realistic chance Brexit wouldn't happen or that May would scrap her Red lines and go for a BINO then they would be in favour. But there is no sign at the moment.
Yes hopefully, without a clear objective. France to the rescue? Force the UK to make a decision and vote it through parliament by the original date. That is the only sane thing to do.
I don't think JRM position has changed, just media Spin. If May can get a legally binding change to nullify the "backstop" and allow us to leave unilaterally or a fixed end date for it the ERG might vote for it. I can't see the agreement getting close to passing without a solid legally binding change to make sure the UK cannot be trapped in it forever.
I don't see now though why the EU would offer anything. My opinion is that the EU don't want the UK to leave. The EU now know for sure parliament won't allow no deal and there would be a delay (revoke / second ref?) instead. So why offer anything? Just do nothing, refuse an extension as France suggested and wait for the UK to fold.