Even Mays not as idiotic and reckless as you lot who think no deal was ever an option.
And yes changes can be to the political declaration and the idea is to make those binding so we ensure the least worst brexit.
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Even Mays not as idiotic and reckless as you lot who think no deal was ever an option.
And yes changes can be to the political declaration and the idea is to make those binding so we ensure the least worst brexit.
Actually I don't want UK to leave the EU, ever.
But you did not understand the post you are mentioning. The "no deal" brexit would simply be a way for May to make MPs vote for her deal, by leaving them no other option. Nobody has actually said what kind of "deal" will make the brexit possible, and in 6 months or 6 years nothing will change.
Three years ago, perhaps the politicians did not know what was going on. But now they all know very well what the options are. The have staffers, they have contacts, they have access to think-tank studies, they can find out much more than we can. And they have a lot of secret agreements that we don't know anything about. There will never be a brexit, I am willing to bet on this!
Keep up she already did her deal or no deal and repeated that for months. Parlaiment don't want either that's why the took control, it's not in her remit to limit the choice to those two options thankfully.
Understanding the options and getting through your preferred choice in a vote of many options are two different things, it's the latter blocking any direction. The next round of indicative votes will be transferable to a choice will emerge.
One of the problems with this is that whatever choice is made it has to have a majority and even more important it has to be feasible and acceptable.
Parliament are no nearer an accord nearly three years after the referendum.
Have zero idea why anyone thinks no deal is off the table.
Well yeah May can go away and follow the preferred option of parliament but the WA will need a majority at some point. Considering that preferred option will be one including Labour votes them with the government behind it then it'll pass easily.
The blocker and why its about to kick off is May might not be in power long enough to do it. I predict we'll all be hoping May remains in charge in a couple of week
This works if May moves enough to Corbyn's ideas to reach official agreement between the two. The problem there is that Labour would then claim they were the party that sorted out Brexit, and that is something May will not want to happen.
I would say it's equally likely May will stay essentially with her own deal until the last minute and hope enough Labour MPs break ranks to vote for it as the alternative to crashing out. The risk there is that there won't be of course, and then no deal it will be, as Paul says.
They'll spin it to their advantage as usual. The options next time round will come from the government and reaching any agreement will be a victory for her.
Labour will be the ones eating away at brexit while May is the adult making parlaiment choose a way forward rather than just saying no. Her perfect victory is long gone so she'll take it i reckon
Enough Tories and Labour will have to agree to get the WA through, will they do so and what are they going to agree to. May will keep going as long as she possibly can.
The only rumour is some sort of customs union which solves little.
The only plan seems to be to kick the can down the road as long as possible but at some point the road ends.
Yes that's possible, although I'm still giving it 50/50 she has no intention of making a formal agreement with Labour with all, and she's just spinning out delays until Her Deal Vote 3, or is it 4, I'm losing track? But as you said earlier, I wonder how long she'll still be leader now, because if she goes everything changes again.
Did we leave on Friday or has it been extended again? 
Where have you been?Did we leave on Friday or has it been extended again?
Under a tree
Left early I suspect...
Theresa May's lament; (to the tune of "Three wheels on my Wagon)
"My three meaningful votes have fallen at the despatch box;
but the fourths still rolling along;
The ERG, Nigel Farage and Jeremy,
are after me, but I'm still rolling along...."
Mrs May, hands trembling, hair all over the place, charging the EU windmills in Don Quixote style. I can see it now Brexit, The Musical... Sir Tim and Sir Andrew back in harness, they bound to have another "Don't Cry for me Argentina" world wide hit!
All May has to do is revoke A50!
"My three meaningful votes have fallen at the despatch box;
but the fourths still rolling along;
The ERG, Nigel Farage and Jeremy,
are after me, but I'm still rolling along...."
Mrs May, hands trembling, hair all over the place, charging the EU windmills in Don Quixote style. I can see it now Brexit, The Musical... Sir Tim and Sir Andrew back in harness, they bound to have another "Don't Cry for me Argentina" world wide hit!
All May has to do is revoke A50!
Can’t really see any benefit to Labour of agreeing a compromise right now. As things stand the Tories are set to be stomped in the EU elections and local elections. Why give them a win before then?
Doesn't look like a UK US trade deal will be as easy as ERG types think
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...dff152-6049-11e9-bf24-db4b9fb62aa2_story.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...dff152-6049-11e9-bf24-db4b9fb62aa2_story.html
Completely agree with Guy here.
Can't have a second vote though because... something something will of the people.
Also can’t open any criminal investigations into Banks because it’s too politically sensitive.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...age-labour-conservatives-latest-a8874361.html
Hopefully that is an eye opener for all those EU bureaucrats who want to give the UK a 3rd-4th-5th chance. If that does happen then I hope that Tusk will have the decency to resign.
Hopefully that is an eye opener for all those EU bureaucrats who want to give the UK a 3rd-4th-5th chance. If that does happen then I hope that Tusk will have the decency to resign.
We know the country is split. This poll shows a slight overall lead for Remain/2nd Ref parties but Farage largely monopolising the hard leave vote due to his recognition factor and being an utterly shameless cnut.
Honestly I'm done with all this being nice to brexiters. You genuinely have to be brain dead to support any organisation ran by nigel farage no matter how much you love brexit.
So basically, you have approx 27% hard line leavers, 7% xenophobic racists and the rest (66%) who wouldn't be upset if we stayed in.
Or something like that?
Not really. 75% support parties committed to Leaving, only 25% Remain.
Debatable if Labour are committed to Brecliff
No, the party leadership have been crystal clear on their commitment to honouring the referendum. If the membership are unhappy about that they should do something about it, but there's no sign of that happening.
Of course it looks like both Labour and the Conservatives are going to have to come up with a European Election Manifesto now. I can't even begin to guess what they'll be.
Labours cover page will have a pic of Corbyn sitting on a fence
Seems like there is quite a gap in how well Dublin has handelled Brexit compared to London.
That's definitely how it will be spun, but a huge chunk of that Labour vote will be Remainers and I would imagine you're getting pretty close to just being left with Remainers in the Tories numbers as all well seeing as the nutters have gone off to the party rebooted after 3 months because it was run by racists.
The challenge for parties like the Greens, Lib Dem and CUK, is to convince people that voting for an overtly pro-Remain party (if that's your persuasion) is more important than tribal loyalty in this election, and the challenge for Labour is to consider whether they will win the most seats if they take a pro EU stance.
Alan Johnson, who ran the Labour remain campaign, said 66% of the Labour party voted to remain.
Yep, that's the number commonly banded around, but that is based on 2015. If you look at 2017, it is a bit tighter with 54% of Labour voters having supposedly voted Remain vs 24% leave.
That is the tightrope that Labour have tried to walk, but there seems little sense in me in trying to out Brexit the Brexit parties. If people are inclined to vote for Farage et. al. then they're not going to be won back by Labours vision for Brexit (or at least they can't be without finally losing the Remainer vote entirely).
The EU elections are a 'God send' for Nigel Farage and both May's Government and the EU have combined to give him an opportunity to 'rise from the dead'. You couldn't make it up could you... oh yes we just have!
Perhaps Farage is the only one who knows what he's doing?
Perhaps Farage is the only one who knows what he's doing?
I can't remember what the Momentum figure was but I think it was in the 80s