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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Errrrrr, what?

One's the leader of the Opposition with, as you say, a 10 point lead. The other's a bloke with a bucket on his head.

I thought my post was pretty obviously satire when you take into account the two people I'm comparing.

But when you feel the need to defend the Labour leader against a throw away joke about Buckethead, that's a pretty damning indictment of Corbyn himself. Probably more so than any anti-Labour activist would ever hope.
Keep voting Tory then, you get the govt you deserve.
 
Ed was pulling in 10-point poll leads constantly (if not more sometimes), not exactly all that impressive until you consolidate it.
 
They haven't got any charming figures.
 
They have no figures at all.

A figure implies posture. They just talk shxt all day every day, the same as the past 3 years. Diane Glover on Sky right now proving it. Even Adam Boulton has had enough
 
I keep hearing this from people, but I fail to understand what a Corbyn government could to do the country that's worse than the last 9 years of the Tories.
Turn us into Venezuela, not my opinion by the way, its just what his detractors says
 
satire
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noun: satire
the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

How dare you satirize our Magnificent Leader Corbyn? How dare you? He will lead us out/in the EU, with the best deal/no-deal/referendum you have ever seen!
 
I keep hearing this from people, but I fail to understand what a Corbyn government could to do the country that's worse than the last 9 years of the Tories.

As a Corbyn-sceptic left winger, I think the obvious answer would be that he would mess things up so badly that we'd end up with yet another long spell of Tory Government.
 
The business community are more worried about a Corbyn government than a no deal Brexit.

They are idiots if they are. Corbyn isn't effective enough to feck things up too much. Unlike the Tories who could throw a ball into the air and miss.
 
They are idiots if they are. Corbyn isn't effective enough to feck things up too much. Unlike the Tories who could throw a ball into the air and miss.

Corbyn attacks them directly.


The Tories might destroy the business environment but will surely protect the capitalist class when push comes to shove - a trade deal with the US on awful terms.
 
I keep hearing this from people, but I fail to understand what a Corbyn government could to do the country that's worse than the last 9 years of the Tories.

Yep. It is bullshit.
 
Corbyn attacks them directly.

So? They shouldn't be immune from criticism

The Tories might destroy the business environment but will surely protect the capitalist class when push comes to shove - a trade deal with the US on awful terms.

Sounds great? :nervous:

Tories are bad for everyone apart from "people like us" and very few of us are "people like us".
 
It's not like Corbyn can flick his fingers and do a bunch of stuff. Fearing Corbyn more than No Deal would be baseless.
 
The business community are more worried about a Corbyn government than a no deal Brexit.
Yeah, it's not like the economy has taken a hit in the last few years because of the Tory led Brexit mess we're in. Or we've had job losses due to it. Or companies talking about moving out of the country. We must have imagined all of that.
 
As a Corbyn-sceptic left winger, I think the obvious answer would be that he would mess things up so badly that we'd end up with yet another long spell of Tory Government.

What would that look like though, tangibly? Is it the policies themselves people have no confidence in, such as scrapping tuition fees which would be paid for by increasing corporation tax which might discourage investment, or his ability to actually execute plans? Maybe if we actually got some major corporations to pay their taxes in the first place like getting a grip of these online tech giants, we might not have as much to fear and could maybe send some people to University.

When I look at what he wants to do with the NHS, transport, welfare and education, it's very obviously going to hit the pocket of the elite. I completely understand, then, why most of them would hate the guy. For everyone else, I do wonder about the thought process. I'd be interested to hear more.
 
Interesting how Corbyn has gone from incompetent, Marxist, fool, to the saviour of our country, in a few short days.
The current Tory leadership could be replaced by a stone and that stone would be a hero solely because of it's inability to make things worse.
 
What would that look like though, tangibly? Is it the policies themselves people have no confidence in, such as scrapping tuition fees which would be paid for by increasing corporation tax which might discourage investment, or his ability to actually execute plans? Maybe if we actually got some major corporations to pay their taxes in the first place like getting a grip of these online tech giants, we might not have as much to fear and could maybe send some people to University.

When I look at what he wants to do with the NHS, transport, welfare and education, it's very obviously going to hit the pocket of the elite. I completely understand, then, why most of them would hate the guy. For everyone else, I do wonder about the thought process. I'd be interested to hear more.

The policies are a mixed bag, that's neither here nor there. I just look at this lot and simply dont believe they'd be able to implement the kind of reform you're talking about.
 
The current Tory leadership could be replaced by a stone and that stone would be a hero solely because of it's inability to make things worse.

Oh, I'm sure Corbyn's lot could make things a whole lot worse.

A stone wouldn't be a bad idea, actually, since we're stuck between a rock & a hard place.
 
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What would that look like though, tangibly? Is it the policies themselves people have no confidence in, such as scrapping tuition fees which would be paid for by increasing corporation tax which might discourage investment, or his ability to actually execute plans? Maybe if we actually got some major corporations to pay their taxes in the first place like getting a grip of these online tech giants, we might not have as much to fear and could maybe send some people to University.

When I look at what he wants to do with the NHS, transport, welfare and education, it's very obviously going to hit the pocket of the elite. I completely understand, then, why most of them would hate the guy. For everyone else, I do wonder about the thought process. I'd be interested to hear more.

Britain leaves the EU or remains in some sort of half in half out arrangement, either way, Britain takes up a lesser ecomonic position in the world and becomes less attractive to foreign investment, the pound weakens and GDP is lost. Corbyn implements his plans for unprecedented public spending, thus increasing national debt significantly. Corbyn implements his plans to tax corporations more heavily and tax the rich more heavily etc meaning business talent leaves for more sunny climes, whilst foreign business investment dwindles even further due to a ‘hostile’ trading environment. The public spending carries the economy for a while until we reach a cliff edge where it runs out and the lack of real economy coupled with massive public debt sends us into a deep depression.
 
Britain leaves the EU or remains in some sort of half in half out arrangement, either way, Britain takes up a lesser ecomonic position in the world and becomes less attractive to foreign investment, the pound weakens and GDP is lost. Corbyn implements his plans for unprecedented public spending, thus increasing national debt significantly. Corbyn implements his plans to tax corporations more heavily and tax the rich more heavily etc meaning business talent leaves for more sunny climes, whilst foreign business investment dwindles even further due to a ‘hostile’ trading environment. The public spending carries the economy for a while until we reach a cliff edge where it runs out and the lack of real economy coupled with massive public debt sends us into a deep depression.

Or the bullshit that make me pay more tax than hundreds of hugely profitable businesses.
 
Or the bullshit that make me pay more tax than hundreds of hugely profitable businesses.

Personally I’ve always thought Corbyn’s manifesto was complete nonsense in the light of Brexit. Of course no one ever knows how things will play out but the idea that Corbyn’s Labour can’t do a terrible job with the economy is woefully naive. If people are really expecting Corbyn to come in and create this quasi socialist utopia with a fantastic NHS and train service then I think they’ll be very disappointed.
 
Personally I’ve always thought Corbyn’s manifesto was complete nonsense in the light of Brexit. Of course no one ever knows how things will play out but the idea that Corbyn’s Labour can’t do a terrible job with the economy is woefully naive. If people are really expecting Corbyn to come in and create this quasi socialist utopia with a fantastic NHS and train service then I think they’ll be very disappointed.

I'm not a fan but it would be almost impossible to feck things up worse than the tories have.

A very low bar will agree.