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In all seriousness, the Brexiteers have played a blinder here. Kick out May (inevitable) once Brexit happens and if it fails blame it all on her.
If it succeeds take the plaudits.
Theresa May will only get 10mins to 'discuss' Brexit with the EU27 
Sums the EU up really!
Sums the EU up really!
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...resa-may-salzburg-summit-no-deal-irish-border
But it will be very harmful and hugely inconvenient no matter the exact details.
It also stuns me that people want even more power in the hands of the idiots that got us in to this and other debacles.
Theresa May will only get 10mins to 'discuss' Brexit with the EU27
Sums the EU up really!
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...resa-may-salzburg-summit-no-deal-irish-border
Yes. Because nothing has been discussed in depth since the referendum
And using The Express as a source is only slightly better than using The Heil or Sun.
We call it zero hour contracts.
Theresa May will only get 10mins to 'discuss' Brexit with the EU27
Sums the EU up really!
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...resa-may-salzburg-summit-no-deal-irish-border
She might have gotten more time if her word actually counted for anything.
Imagine they came to an agreement on anything? Boris would be writing his column before she took off, her own ministers would be telling everyone that it's just very temporary and anything the UK agree on today may be ripped up again tomorrow to do it over again, her parliamentary party would scream bloody murder (no matter what she agreed), and she would explain what she had agreed on was something else than the 27 thought it was by the time she touches down in London.
You can't expect European leaders to waste any more time on this farce.
Theresa May will only get 10mins to 'discuss' Brexit with the EU27
Sums the EU up really!
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...resa-may-salzburg-summit-no-deal-irish-border
Express is as reliable as shonen jump
We have them too. I was more referring to the picking industry.
ZH contracts have been discussed before and there were good for and against arguments. And when you do get work, is the hourly rate minimum wage at least? Picking fruit isnt. My neighbour has a 16hr pw contract and my mrs 24hrs, they can do more if there is demand and there often is. The money during those hours is pretty good.
Hows the pension?
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About as good as my fragmented pension
I think Eastern European migrants were the biggest contributers to the economy because they were generally young so healthy, had fewer children and often returned to their home nations. I.e. they paid taxes but were not an economic burden on the state through use of public services like hospitals & schools.
Now the Leave voters know what they voted for, they didn't vote to leave the EU, they voted to leave the UK for the benefit of the UK economy.
yes, imagine all that tax money flowing in from the orchards, what is it, 50p pw?
Most EU migrants are like that. Lets face it no one in the right mind would retire in the UK. Hence why there are a million or so British immig erm expats living elsewhere.
I would retire in the uk, just never want to work there again, ever.
I loved the UK but I wouldn't retire there. Its far too cold, wet and expensive for my tastes to do so. The NHS is at its brink too which of course is bad news for anyone whose old and not rich.
Don't take me wrong, I wouldn't retire in Malta either. There's a construction boom that is driving me nuts. However its a great place to raise a family in. The country is safe, there's free child care, free tertiary education etc.
Well I find it extremely cheap apart from smokes and public transport. I would also take out private health insurance. The weather is something we cant change but my mrs hates warm climates.
The UK is most definately not extremely cheap - we get ripped off completely with food prices, booze, etc.
Most of the planet were not actually in it to start with and have not had to leave - I think that is quite a big point you are ignoring. It is a very simple proposition to leave something you were not in to begin with right?
that's how I see it too.
That's debatable but if it was true, that's in the past starting next year.
It's amazing how many of them work in orchards, all year round as well.
Food prices are amazing, a giveaway compared to here mate. therefore I always take 1 empty suitcase when I go there, to stock up.
Compared to where? Anytime I go on holiday around Europe I'm always stunned at how cheap the food and booze is.
Remind me never to live in NL.
Its amazing how the slaves are ignored in the figures, I'm sure highly skilled people pay lots of tax and get a fair wage but what about the not so skilled? Should we just forget they exist? Where the uk building industry relies on eastern Europeans to exist, the Dutch builders I've had at my house have nothing but contempt for them, and this at a time when there is enough work for everyone.
NL, and the choice in supermarkets back home is amazing.
Yes. Because nothing has been discussed in depth since the referendum
And using The Express as a source is only slightly better than using The Heil or Sun.
What? It’s a fact she’s only getting 10 minutes, I just happened to link to an Express article about it. There are many many many articles saying the same, google it. You think it’s fake? Jesus Christ stop being so tedious!
I've informed the IND already
You do know who is responsible for enforcing the minimum wage.
Ignoring that, do you think that practice would disappear just because the Eastern Europeans go back home. Someone will replace them or the firms go bust.
It shouldn't take ten minutes to say we "we want our cake and eat it"
Ideally replaced by Brits over time ...but more realistically, sure, loosening up visas for folks that businesses need via points based system. This happens in most countries around the world (outside of the EU), why is it so hard?
Well they should go bust if they if they wont pay a locals salary, you seem quite happy with keeping things ticking over on low wages yet you don't believe anyone drives down wages, quite a contradiction.
Anyhow, the contempt here is not cos of wages being driven down in the building sector here, in fact wages are high for all as the economy is going great. I will quote the last builder we had, "They have been here for years and don't speak a word of Dutch, all they do is rob the Netherlands of its money and go home to share it out".
Now I don't know if this is true as I don't work in this sector but I never hear any of them speaking Dutch. Whats even funnier is that his Polish neighbor agrees with him.
I don't mind anyone going to work anywhere but when you start banging on about racist brits you need to open your ears to what other 'Real' people think in Europe.
The type of work we are talking about here, fruit picking and the like have thousands of vacancies but no requests from Brits because they've never wanted to do it and they'll get more on the dole. Fruit picking is never going to pay high wages.
Normal paid work will be filled by the most apt to do the job regardless of nationality. As figures show immigrants put in more than they take out. Of course there are low paid and high paid, same as the natives of the country.
If an immigrant is unable to support himself the government have a right and always have to send them back but the government don't tell the people this.
Also the UK are still bragging how low unemployment is so who will be doing all the jobs if there were not all these immigrants.
Don't worry about it, Oscie has been basing all his points based on what he reads in the Mail, even giving high praise to the new editor. He hasn't done to badly out of it.
Not fake. Irrelevant.
They could schedule 5mins or an hour. Still irrelevant. The UK have had forever to get themselves together and it is still a shambles. That is what should be the concern
Bingo, you're getting it. There isn't actually a fruit business at all if 21st century salarys are paid. Slavery is not the answer, closure is.
Brits, so long as the salary is minimum or above.
Well tbh I’d be a bit draconian - dry up the benefits and say ‘look there are huge numbers of jobs available so we recommend you go apply for some of those’ - there needs to be a culture change amongst Brits (if you are correct with your stereotyping of Brits not wanting to do jobs).
...and I’m jealous of all the other EU countries getting their amazingly hardworking folks back!