Could be then Paul, it's as good a theory as mine anyway.
The way the world is at the moment, anything could happen
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The way the world is at the moment, anything could happen
There are a million what ifs. As of now, the tough talking Mr Barnier, quoted with such approval in this thread in the past, doesn't expect the center of gravity of European finance to switch to Frankfurt, Dublin or anywhere else.
BBC implied the rise was due to May mentioning that the Government would need to approve the Brexit deal (and therefore there's a chance Brexit would happen).
For what it's worth, every time I see fecking Johnson on TV it makes me want to hurl something at the television. But then I remember that I shouldn't break the TV given the financial implications of the future.
I hate this Government.
They wanted her to speak, and then realised she has nothing much to say, instead only really getting by on one-liners that are devoid of any real substance. There's no irony, really, just the realisation about how she isn't a good Prime Minister.
Julia Hartley-Brewer on Newsnight just now was essentially saying that voices opposing any of this are inherently undemocratic 
Julia Hartley-Brewer on Newsnight just now was essentially saying that voices opposing any of this are inherently undemocratic
"Idiot says something idotic"
40 years in the wilderness. Sounds about right.
Been a bit of a long night but will add comment I got later. Arduous tube journey- came to out east. Not sure what to make of a night out with a colleague- tit leaning on hand etc...
On the face of it baffled by sterling rally. Interest rates are lower for yonks despite rising inflation. Economy in a shitstorm.
To be fair Stan, you'd have had more difficulty in the 70's and 80's paying expensive airfares or having to boat it every single time.
Fecking colleagues eh, you should have just punched him in the mouth.
Next time he behaves like that, tell him you're not that kind of girl.
Er, tit leaning. I'm nine years older than her and have been her sounding board in the past. Was odd though, wasn't sure what ws on the cards.
Her soft tit v my hard BrexitA hard Brexit was on the cards by the looks of things, if ya know what I mean...
Weird night.This is particularly stupid seeing as you are in Holland. You're a tiny nation, you wouldn't be as rich as you are without the commerce from your neighbours
Millions of tonnes of freight pass through Holland and onto other nations and you want to make that more difficult.
Stick borders up everywhere. See how much poorer you'll become, because you will
Any certainty is better than uncertainty. It's been unclear for so long that any hard statement would bump sterling. Now people have had time to digest the speech I think it will resume it's decline for a while longer.
I'm confused. Are you the one actually living in Holland or is the poster giving their opinion? This is the problem I find. If you are from Holland too then you have a debate. If you are not from Holland, then you are dictating to someone that is and they are entitled to their view. We live in a world full of sales people. People should mind their fecking business. Peoples situations are different. What people appreciate is different and when people encroach on that, then people realize they just don't like each other.
Somethings are wrong and it's fine to say it but when people talk about their own country, then it's wrong to dictate to them. The posters experienced both and preferred how it was. A basic way of looking at it, but valid. Why not ask them why rather then judging them as foolish?
And it still will. Think of all those cornish fishermen that will be delighted getting their fishing grounds back too
Nobody ever took them away.
On a side note, you English are such fussy twats about eating fish there are huge numbers of species of seafood caught in British waters that can only be sold outside the UK, mainly in the EU. Will they be delighted about the barriers to trade too? Because it's great news for boats operating out of Ireland, that's for damn sure.
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As i have said before, some dutch fisheries catch 87% of their haul on british waters, they are shit scared. Govts could always come to an agreement i spose, if they wanted like.
Yet in your previous post you were arguing that the Dutch economy would be unharmed by restrictions on trade and movement. Teresa May isn't the only one trying to have cake and eat it.
As far as Rotterdam shipping is concerned no, it wont an that's what I was responding to. Do you think t will all move back to Liverpool?
It's a bit outdated but in 2013 the UK represented 4% of the seafood and fish imports to Netherland.
I talked with two Dutch colleagues of mine a few days ago about that topic. One of them is fairly critical about the EU (which in itself is certainly not a bad thing). When I asked him if it would be wise for the Netherlands to follow a similar path as the British, he laughed out loud and replied: "Hell no. I might not be Brüssel´s biggest fan but leaving the common market would have catastrophic consequences for our economy, especially the trade over Rotterdam."
The port of Rotterdam is still the largest container port of the Western world, mostly because it functions as a massive hub to distribute European goods all over the world and to take in goods from all over the world for the European market.
If you now put up borders again, introduce a new (or old) currency, legal restraints and tariffs, it is only a matter of time until the port plummets in the rankings. Why in the world would large companies put up with these hurdles and additional costs instead of rerouting their goods over ports like Hamburg, Antwerp or Bremen, especially when a considerable part of their goods roll over the German Autobahn in the first place?
And that is just the consequences for shipping. In difference to the UK, the Netherlands are in the middle of Europe, neighboured by EU states from all sides. A quarter of all their exports go to Germany alone, which is to large part because of the shared currency, the short distance and advantages of the single market. Negative impact of that relationship would cost thousands of Dutch jobs.
The BrExit is already an unwise move, a NExit would be damn near suicidal.
The port of Rotterdam is still the largest container port of the Western world, mostly because it functions as a massive hub to distribute European goods all over the world and to take in goods from all over the world for the European market.
If you now put up borders again, introduce a new (or old) currency, legal restraints and tariffs, it is only a matter of time until the port plummets in the rankings. Why in the world would large companies put up with these hurdles and additional costs instead of rerouting their goods over ports like Hamburg, Antwerp or Bremen, especially when a considerable part of their goods roll over the German Autobahn in the first place?
And that is just the consequences for shipping. In difference to the UK, the Netherlands are in the middle of Europe, neighboured by EU states from all sides. A quarter of all their exports go to Germany alone, which is to large part because of the shared currency, the short distance and advantages of the single market. Negative impact of that relationship would cost thousands of Dutch jobs.
The BrExit is already an unwise move, a NExit would be damn near suicidal.
I think I do
Well in 2016 I watched an interview on the news with an actual dutch fishery owner that said the catch they were unloading( camera focused on this enormous haul being unloaded )consisted mostly of fish from British waters, 87% to be exact
Remain would be crazy
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the Netherlands has more than one fishery.
It does, NL provides fish for much of Europe, a lot from UK waters. They could always make a deal with the uk...........oh wait, they cant
I think you've missed the point.
NEXIT would literally mean nothing in reality. Germany is the biggest country and economy of Europe, and they've been our biggest and most important trade partner since forever, probably even centuries ago before 'Germany' existed. Post war Gulden was directly linked to Deutsche Mark, which means it was linked to the currency of the biggest ecomony of Europe, who are the biggest trade partner of 17 other European countries too.
A Dutch 'exit' wouldn't change all that. Shit, a government coming up with a plan to break ties with Germany and therefore Europe, that would probably literally be acting against some core articles of the constitution. So a Nexit would just be a chair switching game, renaming a couple of things to please the angry masses, while business continues as usual.
A Dutch 'exit' wouldn't change all that. Shit, a government coming up with a plan to break ties with Germany and therefore Europe, that would probably literally be acting against some core articles of the constitution. So a Nexit would just be a chair switching game, renaming a couple of things to please the angry masses, while business continues as usual.
I have?
He does that a lot. Like I said, I don't think he properly reads the post he responds to.
Well all of it is speculation, if UK does well in a few years time then it might be a game changer, if it goes to shit then everyone can carry on stagnating in the EU as they are now
I do
Hopefully the Brits will now lay their hands off our scallops
Anyway, all this talk of fisheries and such is distracting us from focusing on our beloved banks and finance gamblers upping sticks
I saw it too but you are mixing up the all picture with a handful of companies. I'm pretty sure that I could find french companies that almost exclusively works with the UK.
Edit: In 2015 7% of the industry imported from the UK.
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