There is a causal link, you need to respect the same rules and not create a disloyal advantage by for example reducing taxes or wages to ridicule figures. If the leavers are true to their word, they don't want to respect the market rules and want to make their owns.
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There is a causal link, you need to respect the same rules and not create a disloyal advantage by for example reducing taxes or wages to ridicule figures. If the leavers are true to their word, they don't want to respect the market rules and want to make their owns.
In the European single market? Of course there is. Every participant of the single market has to respect the four freedoms, including the freedom of movement. It is a prime condition of membership and the trade deals with other non members.
That's not true, Turkey don't respect those pillars but are member of the single market. The problem is that they have to obey to all the rules and have no say, which the UK will rightfully not accept.
Well i was referring to the big picture. As far as im concerned the sooner we have new leaders in europe the better, a move away from the nei liberallism disease, if brexit is a relative success then i feel this will happen.
Is it? I don't think it is.
Turkey aren't in the single market @JPRouve
They have a custom union for goods only, no services, no finance.
To be explicit they are member of a free trade area with the single market. They don't have tarrifs on non essentials economic areas and don't have FOM but they have to follow all the EU single market's rules.
Exactly, they are not in the single market.
Yeah, I meant free trade area which is the subject of the conversion but reduced it to single market. Now, that's not really important because the UK don't want to be in the single market but have a free trade agreement.
No finance or services for Turkey which is most important to UK.
I wish you were right and that it was a member of the single market. Sadly, it gets a pretty rubbish deal because the current dictator didn't look to ever have any real ambition of moving Turkey on from the customs union to the next stage.
When we leave the EU we become the rest of the world, and so will face the same tariffs as them. Our decision to leave, our fault we face tarrifs
The EU doesn't want the UK or anyone else exploiting the poorer countries of the EU, it's not as difficult to understand as you make it @Don't Kill Bill
Not paying into the EU but having full access would lead to massive exploitation.
But its will be the eu decision not to let the uk cheery pick
It seems europe is not interested in the uk 600 year old trick
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...on-deal-swiss-foreign-secretary-a7536896.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...on-deal-swiss-foreign-secretary-a7536896.html
Interesting in the context of Teresa May's (and people in this thread's) assertion that reducing immigration is the electorate's main priority in Brexit negotiations. The danger of leaving middle-aged Tories in charge of policies intended to win votes from UKIP.
Arguably true as the turnout for the younger people in the referendum was poor
Yeah, the low turnout was a disaster. So a big chunk of the younger generation have only themselves to blame for what is going on. Doesn't make this anti-immigration "red line" any more misleading in terms of what the average man/woman on the street really cares about.
no - though arguably with the "average voter" (as in voted in the referendum) and this so called enacting the will of the people which lets be honest this chart shows its hardly a clear thing
Arguably true as the turnout for the younger people in the referendum was poor
That's based on the discredited Sky Data tweet.
Seven months since the referendum. Don't time fly.
aye... 7 months and it seems we still don't have a fully formulated negotiating position... the courts are yet to rule on if article 50 can be submitted without a commons vote... the status / rights of people already in this country has not been clarified and we are only going to have 24 months to get any trade deal negotiated, agreed and signed off by 27 other countries... to say the least I'm not overly optimistic on us getting too much agreed by March 2019
I'm going to be a complete geriatric before this lot's even half over!
Then again look a the US, if Trump does get his own way it will take decades to rebuild political and trade alliances for them.
Then again look a the US, if Trump does get his own way it will take decades to rebuild political and trade alliances for them.
Spicer praises bilateral trade agreements
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...executive-actions-meetings-ahead-first-press/
Some potentially good news for the UK, as Mr Spicer has bashed multinational agreements like TPP and praised bilateral negotiation.
"When you enter into this multinational agreements, you're basically putting every other country on par with the United States," he said.
I think that says it all.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...executive-actions-meetings-ahead-first-press/
Some potentially good news for the UK, as Mr Spicer has bashed multinational agreements like TPP and praised bilateral negotiation.
"When you enter into this multinational agreements, you're basically putting every other country on par with the United States," he said.
I think that says it all.
no - though arguably with the "average voter" (as in voted in the referendum) and this so called enacting the will of the people which lets be honest this chart shows its hardly a clear thing
It shows how few people voted to remain as well.
In a situation like this, you can only go with the votes of those who showed up or you are stuffed.
Government loses appeal.
Was nice knowing Labour.
Surprise, surprise, at least Brexiters should be happy that democracy still just about exists in the UK.
Any chance we'll get to see round 2 via a general election?
Pleasing result.
Prolonging the inevitable, I'm afraid. Who in parliament is actually going to vote against it?
You would imagine anybody with a brain, but you're right it's just prolonging the inevitable. Maybe the house of lords will surprise us.
The difference now is that Parliament must agree to the governments exit plan.
Not at all. They want British Justice, British Law, British Judges - but not in this case
SNP and Lib Dems will. A small handful of Tories like Ken Clarke and maybe 50 Labour MPs, but vote will still be something like 500 for and 150 against.
It will probably be a rubber stamp job. Who votes how will be closely monitored by the Brexiters, I imagine. If things go badly wrong, who will be to blame merely for obeying "the will of the people" ?
Enjoy it while it lasts, chaps.
Not at all. They want British Justice, British Law, British Judges - but not in this case
Although not expecting it, it would be quite hilarious if the House of Lords threw out any proposed Act of Parliament just to prove how democratic the British system is, as opposed to the EU.
Maybe May will refer the case to the ECJ