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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Have to image some sort of referendum on a United Ireland might be possible in the future. The worry in the short term is that people over here(England)won't give that much of a shit if there ends up being a border put up again in the North.
We won't give a shit until bombs start going off again over here.
Now that's the truth.
Hardly that surprising, there’s probably a big crossover with the people who were full on ‘we should have a vote on kicking them out!’ during the IndyRef.
On another note, I think the reunification of Ireland is inevitable.
If May is defeated tomorrow it's hard to see where she goes from there. The government's position is that it would tie its own hands going into the negotiation, so if the government finds the prospect of that unacceptable then it surely will find the reality unacceptable too.
The meaningful votes amendment went 324-298 last week with only 2 rebels voting against the government.
Funnily enough, this is how tories responded in december when parliament voted for a final vote on the deal
Funnily enough, this is how tories responded in december when parliament voted for a final vote on the deal
What would be shameful is if Labour enabled the Tories to win the vote. Frank Field with his deluded views and righteous nonsense will give the Tories absolute power to screw us over.
Meanwhile, the government has awarded another contract to Capita despite assigning it the highest risk rating. This country's seriously becoming a joke.
It's reassuring to see the BBC is focussing on international issues at this point as well, while the country's going to the dogs.
Meanwhile, the government has awarded another contract to Capita despite assigning it the highest risk rating. This country's seriously becoming a joke.
It's reassuring to see the BBC is focussing on international issues at this point as well, while the country's going to the dogs.
Labour has consistently voted in favour of the amendment and will do so again tomorrow.
Dominic Grieve, protector of parliamentary sovereignty, hero to the 'FBPE' masses, one man crusade to put common sense back into British politi...
Grieve is a chicken.
A meaningless vote on a meaningful vote.
EU summit a week tomorrow, maybe some reality will kick in, who am I kidding, UK sleepwalking off the edge.
EU summit a week tomorrow, maybe some reality will kick in, who am I kidding, UK sleepwalking off the edge.
Hard brexit looking more and more likely? Country is truly fecked.
My office is strictly employing people on contracts for now.
I need to consider my future.
I need to consider my future.
The 2010s will go down as a dark time for British politics.
Tory rebels don't really exist, at the end of the day they will end up banding together to screw over the rest of the country
As of old.
Yeah but if Corbyn comes out against Brexit...
such a waste of time. I pray these two parties collapse and some serious politicians replace them.Grieve is a slimeball. What a bunch of sellouts.
Not any time soon it’s not.
Yeah I don't get this nonsense they keep leading with. Polls consistently show it wouldn't happen.
It may happen but not for another 15-20 years.
Ireland doesn't even fcuking want N.Ireland (neither does England), nevermind what way the vote would go.
Lastest poll I saw had it at 44% for a United Ireland. It's a way off but not impossible if Brexit really hits the shit.
Back in the Lords committee, Sajid Javid says he does not want EU nationals applying for settled status so they can remain in the UK to feel that the government is just doing them a favour. The UK needs these people, he says.
So Brexit wasn't about money because any price is worth paying.
It wasn't about sovereignty because Parliament shouldn't have a say.
It wasn't about the laws because UK judges are the enemies of the people.
Now apparently it isn't about immigration either because the Home Secretary says the UK need these EU nationals.
So Brexit wasn't about money because any price is worth paying.
It wasn't about sovereignty because Parliament shouldn't have a say.
It wasn't about the laws because UK judges are the enemies of the people.
Now apparently it isn't about immigration either because the Home Secretary says the UK need these EU nationals.
I agree that seems to be a realistic timeframe. But to be honest until the last few years i never thought we would see a United Ireland in my lifetime (i'm 36). I think Brexit has definitely changed that and could well be the event that accelerates a United Ireland.
It will still be a tough sell down south though, unless there are agreements for the UK to partly fund NI for a number of years and/or financial support from the EU. On it's own i don't think the Republic could afford to take Northern Ireland as it is.
The area this has the biggest impact voted leave.
That’s only in the event of no deal
How is that possible if they're making their investment decisions this summer? Apologies if it's explained in the full article, I can only see the first part before the paywall.
Just curious why you think that? Because the border issue is unsolvable?
Not necessarily.
But I think Westminster will hang NI out to dry and some will start to question if the unknown is in thier best interest. A process which will take decades.
Similar article in the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...lans-uk-cuts-amid-fears-of-hard-brexit-impact
But there are only three choices
1. Stay in the EU. 2. Stay in the EU in all but name(ie still in the CU/SM) 3. No Deal
Anyone on either Brexit or Remain who thinks otherwise is living in dreamland. there are no bits to cherry-pick.
Companies will definitely start making decisions by the autumn.
Hope the UK government and May are ready for next week because it's far more crucial than they realise.
Looks like they will be making cuts with a view to binning the while thing if no deal.
Assume you would be happy with option 2 then?
ROI would need to set aside tens of billions to absorb NI. The difference in GDP, GINI, wages, infrastructure etc. is vast and 40% of NI are employed in public service in the UK.
Plus, people always seem to forget that half of the NI consider themselves to be British, not Irish. I mean the football team's national anthem is God Save the Queen.
It simply will not happen. That ship floated a long time ago. NI don't want it, we don't want it.
The current deal has been the best of both world's for the Irish folk of NI and it's likely to be fecked now.
Best of a bad job but what was the point of leaving and will cost more than just staying as they were.
I am purely a spectator but for the benefit of the UK, option 3 is unimaginable and so option 2 should be the only choice to take.
Originally I vaguely expected common sense to prevail but now seems unlikely so the government will go for option 3.