Manchester is Red.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Manchester is Red.
What if the company needs to raise equity, do the employees just get diluted?
Also - if you’re going to take 10% away from shareholders, they’ll profit from taking the company private or de-listing. I wonder what the chances will be of a large number of plc’s then doing so. Not to mention the firms who choose not to enter the public markets, or decide to list outside of London/the UK as a result. I know many won’t consider this a negative, but it would significantly harm/shrink the UK’s finance sector on a multi year view.
It’s an interesting idea, but it seems ultimately misguided. I’m not sure why you wouldn’t be better off either increasing the minimum wage or lowering income tax bands?
It's Labour, they don't even consider the consequences.
This isn't actually arbitrary, its the number of employees designating a large company.
Anyway, the £500 limit and the rest going to the Government just sounds like stealth tax to me.
I voted Remain but the whole campaign was utterly useless.
Until Remain politicians and big supporters start engaging with people on key issues, it will continue to be useless.
Too much boiled down to labelling anyone and everyone as racists which failed. The same types are now labelling anyone more left of centre (Corbyn supporters) as naive communists.
If there’s a 2nd referendum and Leave wins again, what next? Next one wins or best out of 5?
I always laugh at the recent assertion that everything was great in British politics until the referendum vote...
Until Remain politicians and big supporters start engaging with people on key issues, it will continue to be useless.
Too much boiled down to labelling anyone and everyone as racists which failed. The same types are now labelling anyone more left of centre (Corbyn supporters) as naive communists.
If there’s a 2nd referendum and Leave wins again, what next? Next one wins or best out of 5?
I always laugh at the recent assertion that everything was great in British politics until the referendum vote...
Is it just listed companies? That's dumb cos there are some massive private companies. Crazy if they avoid it, but a micro cap company gets whacked.
Nice idea to have people share the spoils in principle, but yeah the unintended consequences could be painful.
I guess whatever figure they put on a large company will be arbitrary. My firm has around 235 employees at the moment. Do we just can the idea of growing the staff headcount further?
Agree on the tax grab.
I really hope you are right. EDL often bus in supporters from around the country so I'm not having a pop at Oldham.
I just hope they don't try and use a local issue with Muslims or some other group to stir up trouble but that seems to be what they are upto at the moment.
Its okay to cheat and misinform idiot voters then?
Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of Brexiteer racist types in Oldham but I don’t detect any simmering tension or anything. Brexit isn’t even a hit topic from my interactions.
I don’t get why the EDL etc would be upset with a hard Brexit though, it means that the UK are out of the single market and in full control of its borders.
No it’s not but Remain needed to do better.
I was involved (briefly) with a pro EU campaigning/pressure group whilst at Uni doing my Masters, too many wanted to campaign in central Manchester/Liverpool/Leeds but very few wanted to do similar in places like Oldham. Too many refuse to listen to anyone outside their own echo chamber.
As for the EDL and far right hate groups. I think there’s an assumption that the far right gained an impetus post referendum. Whilst that’s partially true, there was an equally big rise in the early years of Blair but that doesn’t fit with the narrative that everything was wonderful post 97.
This is the 4th in a series of videos that The Guardian has done on the reasons behind Brexit. It seems to me that in places like Walsall the people who voted Leave really don't have much to lose. It has one of the highest Unemployment rates with 1/5 homes having no one who works. Of those who do work a large % work minimum wage jobs in warehouses like Amazon or bargain shops like Poundland often on low hour contracts that mean they rely on benefits and foodbanks to survive.
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This is the 4th in a series of videos that The Guardian has done on the reasons behind Brexit. It seems to me that in places like Walsall the people who voted Leave really don't have much to lose. It has one of the highest Unemployment rates with 1/5 homes having no one who works. Of those who do work a large % work minimum wage jobs in warehouses like Amazon or bargain shops like Poundland often on low hour contracts that mean they rely on benefits and foodbanks to survive.[/QUOTE]
I think so too and they had no other way to protest but vote brexit. Paul will have you believe that these people dont know what rock bottom is yet as he furiously types away in his French villa with pipe and slippers.
This is the 4th in a series of videos that The Guardian has done on the reasons behind Brexit. It seems to me that in places like Walsall the people who voted Leave really don't have much to lose. It has one of the highest Unemployment rates with 1/5 homes having no one who works. Of those who do work a large % work minimum wage jobs in warehouses like Amazon or bargain shops like Poundland often on low hour contracts that mean they rely on benefits and foodbanks to survive.[/QUOTE]
I think so too and they had no other way to protest but vote brexit. Paul will have you believe that these people dont know what rock bottom is yet as he furiously types away in his French villa with pipe and slippers.
Thank both for what you think about it. I thought that IRA levels of violence could not be reach, and for what you say it wont. But definitely it does not look like it will be easy at all in terms of violence, just a more shadowy one
Hope they find a solution for you guys, they obviously don't give a feck of you, like all occupiers, they show once more that they don't consider you as one of them, but a property, more or less valuable depending on the situation. Now you are expendable.
Occupiers ?? Are you for real?
God are history books that bad in Britain ?
Indeed, I remember seeing similar videos from Trump-supporting areas in the US prior to the election. Brexit/Trump might be (or rather definitely are) terrible ideas but they're different enough to be attractive to people who have been left behind by the prevailing ones. Which is why the "they voted for Brexit simply because they're racist" argument has always been a gross oversimplification.
When someone does not want you at their home, and you rule their matters, it doesn't matter if you arrive there invited or uninvited, you are occupying their place. English had not been welcome to Ireland for centuries and it stop because migrations and buying loyalist too
We're in 2018 man, although germany are still trying to rule europe, nobody is being occupied. Just ask remainers and the peace the eu brought to everyone.
Insulting another member
Fukk off you tedious kunt. This is not a thread just about ireland
It's not really arbitrary, it's been 250 employees for as long as I can remember.
That escalated pretty quickly.
You are tedious with your netherlands remarks
N.I. is part of brexit and I am interested in the consequence. You don't of course, as a good proof, of what I just said.
Also, border with ireland is the most important rock right now in the brexit negotiations. So if you don't like it, just trhwo me your awesome remarks on netherlands that eveybody enjoys so much and I will engage merrily
It is in that why not 200 or 300, but yep I guess you have to pick some number or other.
50 for medium, 250 for large.
Please argue nicely.
I really dont think its as simple as you make it out to be; but i am happy to be corrected by people from NI.
An occupation is normally what happens after you're conquered.
As you said is not simple. As is not as simple that only N.I. can understand situations that others can relate. Hey call me emphatic pussy if you want.
And I am not trying to correct, is a simple opinion. Remark of simple.
And say what you want. During a majority of G.B. history, Irish didn't want to be part of it, or I have been lied
but yeah, now stanley is right. This is not a thread about irland. though the irish border it is
Well I for one will be more content to go along with it, more assured that it is actually the democratic will of the people with a better understanding of the situation. Rather than believing we have all been conned by dodgy/corrupt salesmen to chop our own legs off on the promise we might get new better legs in 20 years time.
You are an emphatic pussy.
If things get better for them, then I'll agree with you. On the other hand you could always cut your arm off if you scratch your finger.
One thing I can congratulate the British government on is convincing people that the hardship of people is nothing to do with them.
PS I don't wear slippers and gave up smoking last year.
More about the Labour Party conference which is more irrelevant.
I think the problem with a hard brexit will be it will mean massively policing our borders and we do not have the resources in place to do that or even close.
So if we can't control our borders and entry points we can't stop immigration at all. If we had a softer brexit or stayed in customs union then the EU woild remain as a buffer to absorb some of the migration.
People in hard times can only vote against the vote put before them. Govt policies at such a time are irrelevant. Dont tell people sleeping rough that its better to sleep rough in the eu cos it makes no difference, despite their plight being home grown.
You were occupiers, explain to me how you werent.
Actually it is because this is what it all comes down to. So stop with the aggro
Its 2018. Germans were occupiers of Holland in the 40s, the Dutch have moved on. Perhaps they're more civilised.
Yeah? Germany and Holland arent divided are they?
Ah now your views on Brexit make more sense - British arrogance.
That's not the word that you were looking for. The link makes no sense.