And if that something involves throwing the people of Northern Ireland under the bus yet again we have finally and irreprably lost our moral compass.
All politicians will need to hang their heads in utter shame.
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And if that something involves throwing the people of Northern Ireland under the bus yet again we have finally and irreprably lost our moral compass.
All politicians will need to hang their heads in utter shame.
No that's a crazy idea from your side, I have learned in this thread that Latvia has no bigger political weight through their EU membership. White text
Multiple sources reporting it then.
Its almost as if being a member of he EU has certain benefits?
Its shocking how British politicians can't grasp this.
I am a bit sick of everyone and his dog in Westminster and elsewhere lounging around doing sod all but pointing fingers while TM is working her arse off trying to get things sorted. Lazy b’stards the whole damn lot of them. Tell me one positive thing that anyone else in the whole sorry bunch is doing to get our country out of this mess.
Apparently the letters have gone in and Brady has requested to meet PM tomorrow.
Fixed it for you there. Signed, Ireland.
off the cliff we go
I am not totally convinced that getting rid of May is going to improve things in the UK, there's a fair chance it could actually get a lot worse. Amazing though that may seem.
Neither Rees-Mogg or Boris will have the stones to pick it up at this point.
It’ll be Gove and the country will be bemused.
It’ll be Gove and the country will be bemused.
Whatever her motivation (and I don’t agree with your view) the point is no other fecker has a single cohesive idea or can be bothered to do shag all to help. They should all be sacked.
She's still gonna win a confidence vote of Tory MPs. But that avenue going off the table for a year might make the headbangers more inclined to support a parliamentary no confidence vote.
Let's have it!
how is the executive of this government still dense enough to try negotiating with single governments
What numbers are involved in terms of whether she wins or loses?
You have the EU on one side and the UK on the other. Something will get squeezed between the sides and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if its NI. Its a very different place than when the Belfast Agreement was signed, does it really need to be kept exactly as it is.
She needs majority support in the confidence vote, so north of 150 would have to vote against her. Given how long it's taken them to reach 48 letters, and that there are "only" supposedly around 90 tories not willing to vote for her deal (many of whom would still vote for her in a confidence motion), she would seem fairly safe. Her authority would take a banging, of course, but the opposition would struggle to make hay out of someone only narrowly winning a confidence motion among MPs.
You know how May is going back to the EU for assurances, etc? Can anyone explain to me why she thinks that the EU would want to help her out to get her deal through Parliament? The UK is one of the largest economies in the EU and is a net contributor to it. If we go, it could spell the beginning of the end for the EU. Surely they want us to stay and therefore don’t want to offer a deal that will be accepted. If they just refuse to budge, they could get a second referendum and have it reversed.
Either the government is as thick as pig shit, or they are getting the runaround from the EU. Neither is a good look.
Ok understand. It is a total disgrace for them to do that at this time in my opinion.
Honestly at this point she might as well just go "feck it, let's have another referendum".
The EU have accepted for 2 and a half years that the UK is leaving. For both sides this is the agreement that helps the UK leave relatively smoothly. It is the UK that decided to leave not the EU throwing them out.
If the deal gets voted down there is a much greater chance that there will be no deal which is not good for anyone but catastrophic for the UK.
To be fair only one of those parties made a commitment lodged with the UN to uphold the Good Friday Agreement.
Is it really that different, i don't think it would take much to kick trouble off again. You only have to look at all the nonsense that was stirred up a few years ago over a flag on City Hall.
Her usual run to Paris, Berlin etc at the first sign of trouble is an insult to the other countries. Why doesn't she run to Budapest?
Why does the bbc always ask fecking farmers about brexit?
Exporting their produce?
In the early years of Britain's membership the common agricultural policy took a huge proportion of the common market's budget, and it's what people associated most with membership. The press went to town daily on butter mountains, wine lakes, waste of money, us paying for French farmers to live in luxury while the price of food had doubled and bananas didn't taste as good as they used to. Older journalists still think of farming first with Europe.
I wish they would ask more people that work in manufacturing. Most people that want a hard brexit are either retired, self-employed or work in sectors where they don’t think that they would be seriously affected. They are of course totally wrong.
Don't know how reliable but..............
Is the Queen taking over the negotiation?
Hahaha payback ya’s bastards.
Wasn't Thatcher abroad when she was being knifed?
Don't know how reliable but..............
Is the Queen taking over the negotiation?
Has May got some duty free gin?
Agreed. As a country we should be looking at every means possible of supporting manufacturing and increasing the status and rewards of those involved in it. Getting off topic a bit though.
Whatever her motivation, definitely an argument to be made for her trying to cling to power but anyway, she is the only one of them trying to provide a genuine solution to this mess, she may be slightly useless but at least she’s actively doing something and coming up with a semi-reasonable solution.
They’re going to be amongst the hardest hit obviously, between whatever damage will be done in terms of exports and losing the single farm payment/various subsidies if that happens.
Oh f*ck, Pardew's back...
In fairness they’re busy writing letters and buying sticks & shares
You’re very naive if you think a hard border instilled in NI wont kick things off again. It really doesn’t take much for the balaclavas to come out again. Not happy with fecking your own country you want to smash peace to smithereens too. Classy
Resolves Brexit by telling the EU to feck off, calls Corbyn an 'old cnut', headbutts Robert Peston, and replaces Hammond and Grayling with Norman Lamont and the ghost of Edward Heath