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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Drifter said:
Britain's trade minister Liam Fox says 50 per cent chance Brexit may be stopped

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...nce-brexit-may-be-stopped-paper-idUSKCN1OS0OG
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I think this is just indicative of what's going to come out of government for the next two weeks...
Telling brexiteers it's mays deal or it might be remain
Telling remain MP's it's Mays deal or it might be a hard brexit
Probably testing other options (Norway, no deal, possibly even a second ref) and seeing All get voted down in parliment first.
Then the last option on the table is Mays deal and try to bully it through with threats and bribes.
Still probably fails though I think
 
Alexa:

Can you negotiate Brexit?
 
I disagree with the nothings happening

The whips are hitting the phones hard (so I'm told )
People are starting to brief their arguments to the press (see fox and hunt today)
Apparently some MP's are starting to look cross party at options like extending A50
Peoples vote is increasing momentum
Corbyn is probably going to struggle to sit on the fence too Much longer
Next week is briefings and back room haggling
The week after is a week long slog through the commons (I think she will try the non binding votes to show no majority in parliment for any deal)
Then the week after a vote.. then presumably constitutional crisis / calamity carnage
This next week it will be interesting to see what people are prepared to publicly commit themselves to (or rule out)

Certainly this idea that there is another deal to be negotiated is not going to survive the debate given the noises coming from the EU

https://amp.theguardian.com/politic...-to-get-its-act-together-jean-cleaude-juncker
 
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In the Sunday Telegraph, Gavin Williamson, the defence secretary, declared that Britain, far from retreating into indigent introspection, will become a “true global player” after 29 March 2019, with military bases all over the world. In the Mail on Sunday, meanwhile, Jeremy Hunt, the foreign secretary, invoked the economic success of Singapore since independence in 1965 as a blueprint “for us as we make our post-Brexit future”.

Against this backdrop we have learned more and more in recent weeks of what a no-deal outcome would entail – and none of it is good. The mass purchase of fridges by the NHS to keep medical supplies viable; advice to Britons to “vary their diets” in the event of food shortages; plans to deploy 3,500 troops on the streets:
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https://www.theguardian.com/comment...it-blitz-spirit-nostalgia-toxic-world-war-two

A company with no ships and which has not previously operated a service has been given a £13.9 million contract by the British government to run extra ferries as part of preparations for a no-deal Brexit.

The company aims to operate freight ferries from Ramsgate to the Belgian port of Ostend, beginning with two ships in late March and increasing to four by the end of the summer.

But a Conservative county councillor for the Kent port town said he did not believe it would be possible to set up a new service from Ramsgate by the scheduled date of Brexit on 29 March.
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https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/1230/1019649-brexit-ferry-contract/

Lads and Ladies, as an Aussie with a huge british family history (current and past), and dual citizenship, i feel like it's my duty as an extended family member to hold an intervention to inform you that your leaders have no clue what they are doing and you are being led into economic hardship for no reason. :confused:
 
WPMUFC said:
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...it-blitz-spirit-nostalgia-toxic-world-war-two



https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/1230/1019649-brexit-ferry-contract/

Lads and Ladies, as an Aussie with a huge british family history (current and past), and dual citizenship, i feel like it's my duty as an extended family member to hold an intervention to inform you that your leaders have no clue what they are doing and you are being led into economic hardship for no reason. :confused:
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It's not for no reason, some people want a blue passport
 
711 said:
Significant numbers, as the BBC puts it, of illegal migrants crossing the channel to Britain, in December. Whilst this has nothing to do with EU freedom of movement, it may well have a lot to do with the result of a second referendum, if we have one.
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How many numbers was it in the end? Read something like 33 people which seems a lot for the media to get their knickers in a twist about given the overall problem of the refugee crisis.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Sounds very professional - I wonder if they've thought about employing customs officers etc and building the necessary infrastructure at Ramsgate and other ports. Hopefully they've also thought about how they go about obtaining the necessary licences for the trucks/drivers. Seeing as there is less than 90 days to go in case of no deal they'd better get their skates on.
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Apparently you need unconventional size ferries to operate in that port too.
 
711 said:
So you think it's a non-event as far as a possible people's vote goes then?
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No idea, I just wondered if it was an actual issue or a storm in a teacup? Clearly anything can be an event related to immigration if that’s all some people care about.
 
GloryHunter07 said:
Apparently you need unconventional size ferries to operate in that port too.
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Yes... Though you could quite easily build A temporary roro to facilitate more standard ferries I think in another part of the port
Most possibly you switch out the ferries that fit from other routes that you backfill with standard sizes though... That said I'd be more than happy to build some temporary roro's if the price is right
 
Wonder if leave vote in Ramsgate has gone up since the announcement that a new cross channel service is to commence, the last one finished in 2013?
 
711 said:
Bleedin obvious innit. Bit surprised at Paul pushing May's line to be honest, I always thought he was a remainer.
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Cancelling the whole shambles is the only sensible solution.

May's deal would at least stop the collapse of the economy because they'll never solve the Irish problem. But it leaves everyone in limbo. At least that is better than Norway, Canada etc.
And no deal would be catastrophic.

It still amazes me how incompetent the government is, 87 days from B day and none of them have a clue what will happen to the UK in three months time.
 
Corbyn said Labour’s Brexit policy was “sequential” and suggested no decision could be made about backing a second referendum until parliament voted down the deal on offer. MPs are expected to hold the delayed vote on the deal in the second week of January.

The Labour leader said May should return to Brussels to find a deal Labour could support once her version was voted down, including a full customs union.

“What we will do is vote against having no deal, we’ll vote against Theresa May’s deal; at that point she should go back to Brussels and say this is not acceptable to Britain and renegotiate a customs union, form a customs union with the European Union to secure trade,” he said.


The Tories have a bunch of morons running the country but Corbyn really has to be the biggest tosser of all the current politicians.

 
Paul the Wolf said:
Corbyn said Labour’s Brexit policy was “sequential” and suggested no decision could be made about backing a second referendum until parliament voted down the deal on offer. MPs are expected to hold the delayed vote on the deal in the second week of January.

The Labour leader said May should return to Brussels to find a deal Labour could support once her version was voted down, including a full customs union.

“What we will do is vote against having no deal, we’ll vote against Theresa May’s deal; at that point she should go back to Brussels and say this is not acceptable to Britain and renegotiate a customs union, form a customs union with the European Union to secure trade,” he said.


The Tories have a bunch of morons running the country but Corbyn really has to be the biggest tosser of all the current politicians.
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Yes, we'll negotiate all that by March. Unreal.:lol:
 
Sassy Colin said:
The 2nd referendum bridge should be more like:

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Only with more lanes in each direction and maybe painted gold. Plus maybe some huge banners hung from it with the message "This is the only non idiotic option - do this - don't so the other silly things".
 
That ferry contract is laughably corrupt. Their t/c is copied and pasted from a Fastfood website.., founded shortly after Brexit.
CEO is apparently the brother of an ardent Brexit Tory doner..
 
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