I wonder what consultation they've had with the petrol station companies and how they intend to ensure the safety of the volunteers in the face of thousands of angry people wanting fueld. You could reply and ask them, let us know.
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I work together with rather big companies on a daily basis in the harbour, logistics and marine business (I'm in IT) and most of them are warning for a new economical crisis in the months to come, delaying or ending major investments. A no deal Brexit on top of that could be catastrophic I think. Worrying times.
Thread title reminds me of that Metallica song 'No leaf clover'...
Anybody a type 1 diabetic or know anyone that is? Are you taking any precautions i.e stocking up on medication in the event of a complete catastrofeck come end of March? If they can't manage petrol deliveries, how can I trust them to manage insulin for my partner?
Anybody a type 1 diabetic or know anyone that is? Are you taking any precautions i.e stocking up on medication in the event of a complete catastrofeck come end of March? If they can't manage petrol deliveries, how can I trust them to manage insulin for my partner?
Corbyn talks drivel and the pound starts falling again.
Corbyn said nothing. A press conference at a time like this and he said absolutely nothing, except he will 'call for a general election' eventually. How he hopes to win an election that would basically be about Brexit when he has no policies on Brexit is beyond me.
Anything that extends this mess spooks business to be fair. They'd rather the certainty (relatively) of Mays deal over another year or two of discussion and debate.
Just seen the goverment are trying to limit amendments to just one if Mays deal fails. They know that won't fly surely? Parlaiment will just pass another motion allowing more
He has this party line of vote against whatever deal May would present and call for a general election even though he said he won't bring a vote of no confidence until he knew he could win. Meaningless rubbish.
The time for these games is over. May's deal will allow the future relationship to be discussed from April onwards. Corbyn and Starmer are still back where the Tories were over 2 years ago wanting the unobtainable. They know they're not going to be in power so they come up with this nonsense. They can't sell this approach to the people on Brexit even if they managed to get to force the government into an election.
Time is up and the new EU parliament sits in July after the votes in May without the UK unless the UK revokes A50 pronto , no more negotiation on withdrawal.
I would imagine that is because as many pointed out, the UK needs migrant workers! What the xenophobes don't seem to appreciate is that simple economics dictates that economic migrates don't move to economies with no opportunities and vice versa!
I really think a basic lesson in the difference between an EU economic migrant, a non-EU economic migrant and an asylum-seeker/illegal immigrant/refugee would see the Leave vote lose 5-10%
(Note: before someone posts it...no I'm not saying ALL Leave voters are xenophobic/racist...feel like you have to caveat everything these days!)
He really is a feckin idiot. Absolutely nobody gives a shit about an election right now.
Yes, I fully agree.
This clusterf**k known as Brexit really is laughable, today I got a reply from the Auslanderbehörde (Office for Foreigners)
Sehr geehrter Herr ,
leider ist uns auch noch nicht bekannt, wie es aufenthaltsrechtlich mit britischen Staatsangehören nach der endgültigen Trennung weitergeht.
Ich denke, dass das auch Thema bei den derzeitigen Verhandlungen ist.
Which basically says that they dont have a clue what will happen to those with a British pass after Brexit and whether they can live and work in Germany, slowly I am getting very pi***d off with the inaptitude from British politicians from all party's as well as those from the EU who simply play with the livelihoods and lives of both European people in the UK and vice versa with those from British people living in the EU.
The British or a number of these people need to climb down from their high horse because Britain I wont call it Great Britain because it doesn't deserve that name anymore and those days are long gone as do a number in the EU.
After Brexit how many hoops must I spring through if for example I want to visit my Mum in the UK seeing as I have to travel through Germany and Holland.
Hopefully after Brexit the EU will do some form of pass for people so that they can as now travel freely through the European countries.
Sehr geehrter Herr ,
leider ist uns auch noch nicht bekannt, wie es aufenthaltsrechtlich mit britischen Staatsangehören nach der endgültigen Trennung weitergeht.
Ich denke, dass das auch Thema bei den derzeitigen Verhandlungen ist.
Which basically says that they dont have a clue what will happen to those with a British pass after Brexit and whether they can live and work in Germany, slowly I am getting very pi***d off with the inaptitude from British politicians from all party's as well as those from the EU who simply play with the livelihoods and lives of both European people in the UK and vice versa with those from British people living in the EU.
The British or a number of these people need to climb down from their high horse because Britain I wont call it Great Britain because it doesn't deserve that name anymore and those days are long gone as do a number in the EU.
After Brexit how many hoops must I spring through if for example I want to visit my Mum in the UK seeing as I have to travel through Germany and Holland.
Hopefully after Brexit the EU will do some form of pass for people so that they can as now travel freely through the European countries.
No it wouldn't at all, the type of leave voter you're referring to won't change their vote due to a few simple facts on migration.
You'll need to show your passport/visa when arriving with the train or ferry, afterwards you'll be ok to travel through the EU I'd imagine. I mean, we don't have customs on the borders between EU countries (for now)...
I presume Germany has the same approach as France which is that they will grant the same rights to British Citizens as the UK will grant to their citizens which will be resolved if there is a deal. Even without a deal you should be OK to continue living and working in Germany but until the UK makes its mind up it remains in limbo.
The travel part may be more complicated. A Schengen visa may end up being the solution but who knows. It's unbelievable that less than 80 days from B day, no citizen and no company knows what's going to happen.
I'd have hoped that Germany at the very least would have been as proactive as The Netherlands and even faster than Italy in assuring that UK citizens with Residency will have no problems in staying and accessing all of the previous health and social services.
There is a UK Group who have taken matters into their own hands and are negotiating with the EU for a so called 'Green Card' allowing UK citizens the right to travel freely and stay and work in EU countries.
Let me know if you can't access this article and I will pm you the text - https://www.thelocal.it/20190104/meet-the-man-campaigning-for-an-eu-green-card-for-the-five-million
Corbyn keeps saying he want to renegotiate the deal but says nothing about what he wants. Feck off please!
Who would you guys vote for in a GE before Brexit?
Labour with gritted teeth.
I personally think Labour would have no choice but to offer another referendum of some sort in another GE.
SNP
Labour if they had a new leader.
If not, then whichever party who would offer a 2nd referendum, I suppose.
Luckily got the SNP up here so would stick with them. Not that they've necessarily done anything remarkable but would probably be the easiest choice I've had to make.
Can you, or someone else with the knowledge, give a brief update on how the different Brexit scenarios could impact/trigger/hinder another Scottish referendum? If it's even possible to answer.
It's difficult to tell. On the surface Brexit should ideally boost Scottish independence because Scotland voted Remain and was told consistently in 2014 that voting against independence was the best way to secure EU membership. That's not necessarily translated into polling numbers though because a lot of people are worried about whether it'd be too big a risk on top of a process that's already massively risky.
A hard Brexit, I think, would make independence more difficult to implement provided we (obviously) wanted to ensure no border between Scotland and England. Presuming that doesn't happen though, could be achievable if we perhaps maintain a similar relationship to whatever the rest of the UK will have with the EU.
I don't think you'll actually see another referendum for a while though because the UK government isn't going to allow one to happen while Brexit's ongoing. Certain sections of the SNP membership are becoming increasingly restless and don't think Sturgeon's doing enough to facilitate one - I'm not sure what she really can do at the moment though because it's not in her power unilaterally call one, and she doesn't have enough country-wide support to try and force one without turning the population against it, unless sentiment against the UK continues to worsen.
SNP for me too and I'm in England.
Could start getting some branches going down south. Can start in Berwick, basically ours anyway.
Alright, thanks a lot. So just to follow up: If you're very pro independence, the best to hope for would perhaps be that the UK manages a sort of deal with the EU wich would allow Scotland and England to have no border, while also not being comprehensive enough to undermine the pro-EU sentiment in Scotland, allowing the build-up for another referendum?
Who could have seen that coming?
Oh wait.
Oh wait.
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I don't know how people haven't understood yet that he has absolutely no desire to lead the country or help it any way. All he wants is to be a thorn in the government's side, and that's all he's ever wanted since the 70s. He will attempt to derail any and every Brexit plan the government comes up with.
A lot of the Leavers in those constituencies already were voting Tory/UKIP though. Around a third of Labour voters opted for Brexit - in plenty of those constituencies that third would've been enough to tip them over the edge. This sort of logic is the type that was used in 2017 by people who thought that a ton of Labour constituencies in the north would swing to UKIP because they'd voted to Leave.
Which is the most annoying thing for almost two years nothing has been done regarding Brexit absolutely nothing of note and people such as myself, yourself and others are being used as pawns.
Yes I could go for German Nationality I have lived here long enough, I am married to a German but in the time period left it wouldn't be through before Brexit and normally according to German Law I cannot have two if the UK is no longer in the EU, there are some exceptions possible but whether I would qualify for both I do not know and being honest I am loathe to give up my British Nationality if it came to choosing.
Pretty sure Corbyn won the leadership to stop this kind of approach to policy making.
Thanks for the link Oates I could access the page and have voted as such a thing would be beneficial to the people living in another country after Brexit retaining the right to live and work where you will. I would certainly hope that nothing changes regarding the health and social services seeing that I have been paying into the German system for almost thirty years now and would be mightily peeved if there were changes there.
That tells us nothing useful. It’s not as though Leave won by a landslide and for all we know the non-Labour voters that they need to win over in those constituencies (e.g. young people) could be most tempted to jump ship by a Labour party that is pro-EU.
And his own MPs kept trying to replace him with someone who would reach out to all sides of the party. To be fair to them most of his biggest rebels are on his side regarding this there's only a minority who want Labour to only represent remainers.
Indeed, there's a bizarre assumption wherein Labour Brexiteers (the minority) will leave the party the moment they stop backing Brexit, whereas the majority of Remainers will remain faithful no matter what. In spite of the fact that many of those Brexiteers were voting for the pro-EU party in spite of their own anti-EU sentiments, and in spite of the fact that they continued to vote for the party in 2017 even though there were much stronger pro-Brexit options they could've went for.