Ah alright. I wasn't aware of that.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
It’s really good to hear someone say this.
You entire being is one big inaccuracy.
Your delusions over the "European Army" have been pointed out to you time and time again but you ignore facts and motor on with your nonsense. You have repeatedly said that "The EU" are pushing ahead with this "army". Yesterday you said it was being pushed ahead with despite many European countries being against it as if it was some sort of conspiracy. It was pointed out to you that pretty much every member bar the UK and Denmark had in fact signed up to PESCO (not an army) but you ignored this fact and waffled on blindly. Then you tried to equate Macron to being the EU.
I'm not holier than thou - I'm just not completely thick and I'm sick of pretending to engage with those who are.
I agree (and posted as much) that I am saddened that we seem so far apart from our closest neighbours. Especially since the culture, the language and traditions are so intertwined. Brexit has started to pull out the stitches from old wounds and so it has to be sorted quickly. Too much air has been given to Brexiteers. The media and social media has whipped up feelings that never existed in my daily life. Before this happened I had hopes of a much greater coming together for the UK and the ROI. But this has set it back 30 years. Whatever some on here think, I am for the voice of reason. The referendum was a disaster in my opinion. But it is what it is and somehow we have to move forward. That is better done through goodwill and cooperation than through mud-slinging and animosity.
>outright lie and mislead people
>get upset when someone insults you for it
I agree, maybe Tusk shouldn't have said anything because it lets the Brexiters play the victim card.
>get upset when someone insults you for it
I agree, maybe Tusk shouldn't have said anything because it lets the Brexiters play the victim card.
Yeah, that's the only criticism I have of it too. But on the other hand he doesn't lose anything by saying it, it's not as if brexiteers had refrained from playing the victim card up until his post, or as if there was any way in which he could reason with them. He's essentially burned non existent bridges with it.
One thing it does do is draw attention to the brexiteers though. I think it would be a good strategy for EU politicians (and member states) to point out brexiteers and their contradictions non stop for the next 8 weeks. They've been able to dictate the public discussion for way to long. If brexiteers want to ruin their country no one should be left in any doubt as to who did it.
Thread's taken a weird twist since I've been away for a little while.
Of the Commonwealth countries I've visited /dealt with in Africa, none of them seem too enamoured with the British.
I think that it's true for all former colonies whether they were portuguese, french, spanish or british. The tragedy is that France and the UK in particular, have to some extent an over inflated opinion of themselves due to things that absolutely do not matter today.
Well, Hong Kongers would love to return to pre-1997.
But that says more about the Chinese overlords than Britain.
Being in the Commonwealth does not mean having the British monarch as head of state - a few do (Aus, NZ), most don’t. But, in any case, it seems a fairly pointless institution which I imagine may fall apart after the Queen goes. Is there a French equivalent?
Yes for sure it applies to all colonist nations but to think there is a desire for them to be under their umbrella nowadays is delusional.
I guess that the OIF is the equivalent, last year Ireland joined it as an observer.
You need to look at what the Commonwealth does. It is a force for good in the world. It has 53 countries as members (over 25% of all the nations on earth) and represents 1/3 of the worlds population. Yes it was founded from the old empire but now there are many countries in it that were nothing whatsoever to do with the empire. The 'British' part of the name has been dropped and there has been a big effort to promote the 'league of friendly nations' aspect rather than some British jerk-off story. Yes The Queen is it's head and she will eventually hand over to Prince Charles but that is no longer a statement of the Brits lauding it over any other member. All members are considered equal.
It does good things, helps a lot of people and in my opinion should not be derided.
http://thecommonwealth.org/
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imagine responding to criticism of British arrogance with an ad for the commonwealth
Two. Two nations out of 53 (61 if you count former and now dissolved members) who had nothing to do with the empire. Rwanda and Mozambique.
The Irish look and sound like the English and we live right next door but we have never been considered equal by the antiquated gobshitery of British government and establishment. So you'll pardon my utter scorn at the idea they consider members from Africa and the tropics at anything even approaching equal.
It exists solely to stoke the bruised ego of receding British imperialism and as a means for them to maintain their claims on other nations resources now that it doesn't do to be seen colonising and slave taking in polite international society.
Here's a good insight into the "good things" done by the Commonwealth: https://www.theguardian.com/comment...lth-british-empire-britain-black-brown-people
Bear in mind this article has actual facts and referenced links to back up it's content so it's going to take a little longer for you to read than the usual fare.
When I compare it with this, it confirms my opinion. Look at them graciously sharing their values and counting heads too.
And you say the Irish have signed up as observers....
Out of interest, what does it do? What is this good it is a force for? After the first couple of sentences I was expecting some info on that but it never came.
And I laughed when it was announced.
I think the member states need to approve the head of the commonwealth - it's not a given that Charlie Boy would take over. That being said, I think the Palace has been on a charm offensive for the past few years to ensure he gets it - and by that I mean bribing the shit out of whoever they need to ensure he gets the gig.
I wouldn't even rate the Commonwealth as highly as pointless.
Well said.
Not the most likeable guy.
Corrected for you
I think after 2 years of insults, backtracking and delusion, the EU's patience is running thin, very thin.
Lucifer? Bit harsh mate
Gotta love Bercow and the quote from the SNP:
Wait what?
Yes. Although it was probably best left unsaid even if it is spot on.
Not that Brexiteer types have a problem throwing insults around.
At least he did not use the word idiot(s)
More class than any remainer, the only chap on the eu i like.
You like Verhofstadt?
this is their plan for technological alternatives to the backstop?there was a fella who unironically suggested microchipping the Irish
I note a “confidential” report was prepared for Fox and other officials last May by a small UK technology company called UtterBerry
The company has now no doubt now changed its name to Utterb*ll*x
Cameras to read license plates? They’ve got that on toll bridges and people just muddy their plates so they aren’t recognized