The politicians that promoted Brexit are going to hell in a handcart and by extension anyone who believed them are idiots. That is the way it will be read. If you don't believe me revisit the tweet and see what is happening. He has stooped to their level.
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The politicians that promoted Brexit are going to hell in a handcart and by extension anyone who believed them are idiots. That is the way it will be read. If you don't believe me revisit the tweet and see what is happening. He has stooped to their level.
Same here, I’m one of those ‘soft’ unionists who enjoyed the economic benefits etc
Now, well let’s just say I wouldn’t argue against a united ireland now. Though I’d still question the economics of paying for it
It’s become quite clear that despite as much bluster about the Union staying whole, it’s really just England first
It's alright to offend someone who is perpetually offended. No one will notice a difference.
That's something you decided to manufacture yourself in your head as first all he never said that, and secondly there was not even a slightest hint of that in what he said. Stop dropping to the brexiters level.
This being something that nationalists probably always knew or at least suspected but that unionists are maybe just beginning to realise.
The only real argument I have left to be unionist are, is it all I'll ever known and I dislike change and there might be some short term hardship in the transition as we have a quite high public sector workforce %.
I think whatever way Brexit goes, a border poll is fairly certain in the next few years. Im surprised there isnt even more of a clamour for it at the minute than there has been given it really does potenitally solve the problem entirely.
It'll be tricky. A couple of years ago I'd have been confident of it passing but after the shambles of Brexit, I imagine we'll all be looking more carefully at the ins and outs of any referendums and a United Ireland is going to be very, very expensive for Ireland.
There's can-do and there's cold hard reality. We need a solution in a matter of weeks!
I truly hope not GB. As well as the thousands of citizens on both sides that were sacrificed in the troubles there are a great number innocent British of citizens that paid with their lives too. Not to mention the police and soldiers.
Most people in Britain would be horrified if the government ultimately deemed that all to be for nothing.
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There's no way it'll happen. I really don't know why people keep bringing it up as some sort of feasible solution.
You think that pointing to the ineptitude of politicians that put the wheels in motion without a plan is undermining Brexit? They undermined it themselves and are causing problems to Ireland on their way out.
I think every so often an English person thinks "wait a second, I have an idea that could get us off the hook and keep those silly Irish feckers happy too".
to be fair, that notion isn't as bonkers as their other notion, for Ireland to leave the EU and join the UK instead.
Or the Donald and KimSend for Ole!
See that's just indicitive of the "England First" attitude being discussed above. Possible reunification for nationalists is not about providing a "solution" to GB for Brexit. The Irish aren't looking to take NI off your hands to do GB favour. It was raised in the context of how the potential for no deal is changing attitudes in the North towards reunification, I suggested, anecdotally, that it was making soft unionists question the future of the union, probably for the first time and golden_blunder replied in agreement. Will it ultimately push the North of Ireland toward reunification? I don't know but I don't recognise from day to day life here your certainty that it won't either.
Don't blame Tusk for losing his rag. Watching the Brexiters getting their knickers in a twist for being called out was worth the LULZ... as for @Honest John - very ironic having that username and wholeheartedly supporting the Brexit bunch.
WeasteDevil used to say this all the time too, and it didn't make a good argument then either.
Not true. I am merely advocating that Tusk should not have said what he did. It is stooping to Farage levels.
Plus the EU's record for planning is not that brilliant.
Now some reports are saying it was a deliberate ploy. If so, it will be in danger of backfiring.
When this is over I actually think that there is a case for the ROI rejoining the Commonwealth.
@Honest John was the only thing stopping you from voting Brexit was the business you own?
Holy Jesus the delusion.
It's like the unpopular kid got invited to the cool party, got way too drunk and started insulting people before deciding to flounce.
Got caught trying to raid the bar on the way out and got roughed up a bit, then later snuck back in to try and entice other kids to his new, "cooler party" in his mums basement!
I think you must be taking the piss.
The South (where I'm from) will likely never go for it, though, that's my point.
Yes I do understand and I also agree with you.
If and when both are proven, it will be far too late. That is life and that is the dirty side of politics.
I don't own the business. I run it. And no it was not the only thing. I have my issues with the EU but generally I favour reforming from within.
No. There has been talk of it. Both in the UK and Ireland. Some have even advocated joining in exchange for a Unified Ireland.
No there hasn't, there absolutely hasn't, maybe, maybe a tiny idiotic group 0.0001% of the population think it might be a good idea, but even if those people exist I've certainly never heard of them or spoken to them. Don't make shit up.
Ah. One person.
https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-rejoining-the-commonwealth-4174082-Aug2018/
All I said is that there has been talk of it
All I said is that there has been talk of it
holy shit a british tory mp said it as well this is definitely unprecedented
Do you know who Mary-Lou is and what party she represents?Oh I didn't know British MP Tories were Irish. That's new.