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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
The Tories hate Bercow with a vengeance, and he revels in it. Labour were nicely mischievous when they nominated him for speaker and I remember the Tories being unhappy at the time.
If he were still a regular MP I think he would have joined The Independent Group, he was definitely close to the centre, perhaps even akin to New Labour.
The EU should simply say Friday next week that enough is enough, leave is leave so go no deal and now deal with the consequences.
If MPs had voted for indicative votes, would this have been substantial enough for May to present to the EU in order to get an extension?
I'm still astonished that just over half of the Commons voted against this.
I'm still astonished that just over half of the Commons voted against this.
An extension would still result in the same uncertainty about the WA. May doesn't seem to have the numbers, an extension won't change that.
I am hopeful the EU27 will then not allow an extension, without May accepting a second referendum. Macron (and others) needs to hold there ground on this.
May won't be able to do that.
May will then face no deal or withdrawing article 50 and fairly certain will go with the latter.
I am hopeful the EU27 will then not allow an extension, without May accepting a second referendum. Macron (and others) needs to hold there ground on this.
May won't be able to do that.
May will then face no deal or withdrawing article 50 and fairly certain will go with the latter.
As long as I have enough time to get these Iberdrola shares handed over into my name and sold before everything goes to pot I'm happy.
#imalrightjack
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#imalrightjack
#whythefeckamiusinghashtags
It would have forced them to actually put their thoughts out and back something (on an individual and perhaps party level). They are all far happier refusing to take any control of the process so that they can just blame May.
I wonder if Brexit on the 29th isn't the best way to get a deal quickly. It seems that parliament will only act with maturity when they have no other option and a no deal brexit next week seems to be the obvious context.
I don't understand this. If the deal is not acceptable to them, that should be independent of the name of the Prime Minister. Will May resigning make it a better deal?
I don't see the UK parliament getting a majority consensus on anything and I don't think the EU believe they will either. No deal still looks most likely to me. Something radical has to happen quickly and parliament are still sleepwalking.
That's my point. By leaving on the 29th, I think that there are more chances to get a deal quickly after the 29th than if you extend the transition period.
No it won't. Politicians disagree even in the same party, and end up hating each other for both policy and personal reasons. I don't know where you work but a lot of people will recognise this in their own workplaces, strangely the higher you go the more it seems to apply. Look at Labour now, the Corbynites hate the Centrists more than they do the Tories, it's the way of the world I'm afraid
.I'm no certain she will at all. I'd much prefer her to, but she seems to see her job as delivering brexit no matter what. So much more likely we leave without a deal and she then resigns.
It's all about party politics, unfortunately.
Even at 1 minute to 11.oo pm on the 29th there will be hesitation. Only when 'No deal' passes into UK law can real discussions take place with the EU about future trade deals (which in fairness they have said from the off!). If we have signed off on any sort of WA 'deal' without trade, before 11.00pm on 29th, then we are f***ed; France will be on about fishing, Spain about Gibraltar and God knows what else an endless litany of working out deals with 27 countries is potentially in the offing for years to come.
Until "Brexit means Brexit" nothing gets done... oh woe is me!!
Of course at 1 minute to 11.oo pm on the 29th, Theresa could withdraw A50!! Wonder what odds you get on this outcome?
But if they leave on 29th there is no transition period. Until reality slaps them in the face I can see them procrastinating forever more.
A few months of no deal and they'll be begging for re-entry.
That's my point, all these transition periods, withdrawal agreements and other extensions created a situation where UK MPs have been focused on everything but the UK and its relationship with the world. Without a deal on March 30th, they will be forced to change their priorities.
Logically yes, but the party politics would still continue, which is far more important to all of them. There's very little logic in parliament.
I hope they force them into Schengen and the Eurozone as part of it.
It would be ironic.
Bercow gets the last laugh then. The media campaign to get him to resign led by Tory supporters who smeared him as a bully really paid off.
You've a long way to go to beat @devilish for begging, he used to have us begging three times a day at least.
I am not particularly renowned for mincing words but jeez some of the things being thrown around at the moment is tough even for my standards. Is it true that France minister for foreign affairs had mentioned her cat Brexit because it meows loudly to be let out each morning, but then refuses to go outside when she opens the door?
Is Farage singing his songs again?
It is supposed to be true.
ouch.
If it was her decision, I have an idea about what would happen next week. I wonder how much her opinion is representative of the french government and other european ministers.
She said it was a joke and didn't have a cat
I have a similar thing on my facebook, but funnier, the cat just sits at the open door and looks at it.
The worst deal of all
I still don't think MPs realise the problems they will face, pay a few tariffs on WTO and we'll be alright - if that's all they think will be a problem they're in for a shock.
The one big silver lining for you Brits is that this has highlighted just how bad your politicians are and made it crystal clear who the worst culprits are. We could all do with such a watershed moment in our own countries.
These idiots were idiots before Brexit and without it, they may have happily carried out their careers, blaming their inadequacies on Europe and immigrants and poor people until they shuffled off into well paid retirement. At least now you have an opportunity to properly purge the sewer, as painful as it's going to be in the short term. In a hundred years they might actually look back on Brexit as a turning of the tide.
These idiots were idiots before Brexit and without it, they may have happily carried out their careers, blaming their inadequacies on Europe and immigrants and poor people until they shuffled off into well paid retirement. At least now you have an opportunity to properly purge the sewer, as painful as it's going to be in the short term. In a hundred years they might actually look back on Brexit as a turning of the tide.
The Big Brexit Short
Revealed: Tory donors who paid £7m to socialise with May
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ors-who-paid-7m-to-socialise-with-theresa-may
In dystopian movies, the evil corporations have forgettable or at worse suggestive names. Here they just spell out within their name that they're going to feck you.
Shinra Electric Power Company, Wallace Corp and Tyrell Corp on the forgettable side, Omnicorp is more suggestive. None of them are like Disruptive Capital (or Bain Capital).