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Bundesliga 2015/2016
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Interesting turn around for Gladbach and City. The CL game between them on Wednesday might be interesting after all.
I don't know about that. I think it's really impressive how many chances Stuttgart create, one might argue that with slightly better finishing they would easily be top 6 right now, and it would be great for the league if they can get that yolo-approach to work.
Well, that went pretty much as expected. Bayern really are an incredibly good side and Costa is very very quick. You really need to see him live to appreciate just how fast he is. But that whole team is just unreal. Rafinha is the only one who looks like a normal footballer, he loses the ball stupidly on occasion or passes the ball out of play under no pressure. The others are just so perfect.
We really need to take that one chance in these kinds of games. Malli midweek, Muto (I think) this time. Might not have been enough regardless, but it's vital to be in a position to take advantage if they mess up.
We really need to take that one chance in these kinds of games. Malli midweek, Muto (I think) this time. Might not have been enough regardless, but it's vital to be in a position to take advantage if they mess up.
Soo, the duel between the experts of playing poorly and still winning luckily is coming up tonight.
Let´s see who comes out ahead in this clash.
I also love how Sky hypes Breitenreiter as the best Schalke coach in history (based on points per game) after six league games
That´s like putting Tuchel ahead of both Hitzfeld and Klopp for us based on the season start...
Let´s see who comes out ahead in this clash.
I also love how Sky hypes Breitenreiter as the best Schalke coach in history (based on points per game) after six league games
That´s like putting Tuchel ahead of both Hitzfeld and Klopp for us based on the season start...
Nah I don't think City will have many issues.
I still don't get why Hojbjerg went on loan to Schalke. It's such a stupid move.
Yeah, it is a loan without clause, right?
Most sensible decision would have been to keep him in Augsburg for another year IMO. They could have used him better with their number of games and I thought he played really well for them especially towards the end of the season.
Yeah. Augsburg was the obvious destination, stability in the team, the manager knows him and they can actually use his quality in the starting line-up wthout hurting one of their young talents' development. It's the exact opposite at Schalke. I fully expect him to struggle to get game time, then get a serious injury, come back and maybe play 3-4 games as a sub towards the end of the season. Everything else would surprise me
1:0 Sane
Well, it seems Schalke is the luckier one today...
feck me, this amount of injury time is embarrassing. The ref change alone took more than the six minutes
For the first time since Robben arrived in 2009, we are not fecked when he and Ribery are injured. Coman looks like a steal, they are getting really mad over at juventuz.com
To be honest, Coman never looked any special for us. Young, quick and with potential, yes. But he never looked like someone who could immediately produce for us like he does for Bayern now, but that's probably because we played him as a support striker while he is a winger. Ironically, now that he is gone we started to use wingers again for the first time in years. Anyway, we got him for free, so we are bound to make quick and nice profit for him. I just hope he does not become for us what Pogba has become for United: a lost opportunity.
Someone needs to do a compilation of all Hamburg misses in these final minutes with the Benny Hill theme song
Winning games like these (and at least 3 before this one) were normally seen as a sign of a top team, right?
Someone please disagree with me on this one....
In no way, shape or form do Schalke play football like a top team...
Someone please disagree with me on this one....
In no way, shape or form do Schalke play football like a top team...
They don't. Leverkusen so far has clearly been the 3rd best team in the league in my opinion. Everyone else has been incosistent. Ingolstadt maybe deserves to be named the 4th best team
.I'm really curious how Leverkusen will do against Barca in a few days. At least their players can't fight over Messi's shirt at halftime now, that should help.
they play dreadful and are very fortunate. They are now in a decent position and Breitenreiter will get some time to work without being doubted all the time. Still if they don´t improve a lot, they´ll start dropping points left, right and centre.
They don't. Leverkusen so far has clearly been the 3rd best team in the league in my opinion. Everyone else has been incosistent. Ingolstadt maybe deserves to be named the 4th best team
I'm really curious how Leverkusen will do against Barca in a few days. At least their players can't fight over Messi's shirt at halftime now, that should help.
My first instinct was to disagree with that, but after thinking for it for a minute and taking the International performances into account, you are actually right, which says more about the rest of the league than them IMO.
Wolfsburg and Schalke managed to collect points well without playing well most of the time. Gladbach is in turmoil, but hopefully recover now and Leverkusen´s position looks worse than it actually is because they already played the two hardest games of the first season half. If they really start to click together they will become dangerous for the other two first mentioned teams in terms of the CL.
In the end, the only teams who play really good football thus far were we and you guys, though, and the gap is actually pretty notable.
I think that's a bit harsh on them (you really are quite harsh on many teams lately). They've overall played well, were unlucky against Darmstadt and, well, you can't really fault them for the losses against Bayern and Dortmund. They're simply the inferior side and it showed. Overall they've played great football at times. They'll continue to improve and should easily finish 3rd. Their performances in the CL so far are also promising. The game against Barca is huge now. I'll expect them to lose but hope they can stay competitive throughout and go with confidence in the crucial games against Roma. They've done really well in the CL last season, hopefully that trend continues.
Am I? I dunno, they fell apart a bit too quickly in both top games after going down 0-1, although this could have more to do with the abilities of Dortmund and Munich to really punish open space.
Well, maybe I went into the season with too high expectations for some teams (which they could not reach), because they felt stronger than they actually were last season because of our weakness as team. Maybe I just was not prepared to go ahead of them in terms of quality that quickly again. It is probably a matter of perspective, which can influence the judgement. I should probably lower that standart a bit again.
You were always ahead of everyone bar us in terms of quality in the last 5 years. It wasn't any different last season, you just fecked up massively for various reasons. It would have been weird if you continued to be that underwhelming without massive injury problems and with what looked like a mental block gone.
Nah, Sphaero is right I think, Leverkusen has been average. They beat shit teams like Hannover and Hoffenheim only with 1 goal difference each, lost against fecking Darmstadt and choked as usual when it mattered with crap displays against Bayern and Dortmund. They had one impressive game this season and that was the win against Lazio in the CL qualify return leg.
Schalke has been lucky in the last games but I like seeing them doing well, a top 3 finish for them this season would be great, they played some good stuff in a few matches this season already (against Bremen, Cup and EL games), so that would be nice.
Schalke has been lucky in the last games but I like seeing them doing well, a top 3 finish for them this season would be great, they played some good stuff in a few matches this season already (against Bremen, Cup and EL games), so that would be nice.
The state of the Bundesliga right now is like the Scottish League. Bayern are a class above the rest of them.
Yeah, except we're fecking awesome and Celtic isn't. Also, isn't Aberdeen top of the table in Scotland?
To be fair, put Bayern in the EPL (or any league outside La Liga for that matter) and you say the same thing.
Fecking awesome after halftime...
At halftime we right now would have 11 points and a goal difference of 4:3...
After halftime the goal difference is 19:0...
I knew it was bad, didn't know it was that crazy
To be honest, I can see Bayern winning the Bundesliga again for at least the next 10 years, no joke. Dynamics have significantly changed since Dortmund's last title in 11/12, money and squad depth are now more than ever important factors to deal with and Bayern are financially by far the richest Bundesliga team now. We struggle to beat Hoffenheim while Bayern beats that same Hoffenheim even after Bayern got a red card.
I think there are more clubs in the PL that could take points off Bayern especially in away fixtures. Many of the elite German clubs have gone backwards recently, Dortmund, Schalke, Leverkusen have all struggled in the last few years. While Bayern have improved.
Neither Leverkusen nor Dortmund have gone backwards.
We haven't improved since we won the title back from Dortmund in 12/13. I don't see how Leverkusen have gone backwards and it's difficult to judge Dortmund this season, way too early. I'd say they could play as good a season as they did in 11/12 but it might not be enough.
Javi Martinez was a monster that season...
I am not so sure about that because of the way EPL teams are set up. The small teams in Germany aren't easy to play against. The most of them have a lot of team work, are very good on the counter and do a very good pressing. That is why Bayern always has a lot problems in the first half - in the second half it gets easier as the teams run a little bit of steam.
The difference of the teams between the EPL aren't really the quality of the teams but the tactics. I e.g. could say that a team like City would struggle in the Bundesliga more than they do in the EPL. I do not really know how Bayern would fare but I could imagine that a lot of the teams would loose a lot of steam trying to catch shadows.
12/13 to now - I do not think that Bayern went backwards. Some should not just look at the last matches of the season but at all of the season. I think the most positive about the time right now is that the future looks good. A lot of uns thought that getting rid of the old guard will cause a lot of problems. But it already seems that the "young" ones have taken over important roles.
The more I see of Coman and Costa the more I'm surprised that we had non of them on our radar. Especialyl since both of them offer exactly what LvG said we are missing yet we weren't linked to any of them.
Good for Bayern though that they finally seem to have found quality replacements for Robben and Ribery with these two.
Good for Bayern though that they finally seem to have found quality replacements for Robben and Ribery with these two.
Coman's cross for the first goal was a beauty. I've no idea how we found him though. He was barely playing for Juve after all. Great scouting and if he continues to impress, the price is a bargain.
Really looks like it. I also have to say the future for french football looks quite good with talents like Martial, Coman, and Pogba in their ranks. Add to that the generation that is now around 25 years old with Griezmann and Varane and they could have quite a handful of world class players in their team by 2018-2020.
I think the french FA should push for them all playing for the same club *cough* ManUnited *cough*.
Bayern's scouting and transfer policy in the last seasons is really great. And I think in addition to that there is a climate in the team that makes it easy for newbies.
France often had a lot of very good players - the difficulty is to get them to play as a team...
For the first time since Robben arrived in 2009, we are not fecked when he and Ribery are injured. Coman looks like a steal, they are getting really mad over at juventuz.com
I really feel like creating an account at their forum just to say thank you right now. It's unreal what a steal he could turn into after we've test driven him for 2 years. And if we don't like him, we can just give him back. How anyone at Juve agreed to this is beyond me. Just looking at their thread, some don't even seem to realise how much they were ripped off...
Dortmund is still great and one of the best teams in europe, but ofc they have gone backwards a little bit. 2012-2013 they were the most exciting team i've ever seen, especially in the Champions League. But after losing world class players like Götze and Lewandowski and others losing their best form (Pisczek, Subotic, Kagawa, Sahin) you can only go backwards. Also don't underestimate the loss of their previous captain, Kehl. And right now it doesn't look like a huge loss because it went well for them so far, but they just lost their biggest star with Klopp.
However i agree a lot with Schalke going backwards, while Leverkusen has improved imo. Also, even if they have suffered now by KdB and Lewy, Wolfsburg made some huge steps forward. Kinda replaced Schalke in that matter. But as @Sphaero mentioned already, Bayern would turn any league bar La Liga into an 'scotish league'. But well, we have to wait one more week to see if the Bundesliga is a scotish or a spanish league. Even though the odds in the Allianz Arena are not good for any team in the world. Would have been more exciting if Bayern would play first away to Dortmund.
It's just one letter... but still...
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If you look at the bigger picture, Dortmund hasn´t gone backwards. They are constantly growing their revenue and their squad is fantastic. They are clearly moving in the right direction.