Cavani's missed chances vs Metz & let's talk about di maria too

Di Maria was poor because of LvGs terrible management and tactics.

No other side or manager in the world would have Young over AdM

Di Maria being dogshite and poor was all his own doing. Van Gaal gave him all the chances and all the freedom in the world to do whatever the feck he wanted out on the pitch. It took him being a total wanker and being sent off for LVG to drop him and even then he was forced into it. LVg was a clown but this was not his doing.

Any manager that would have stuck with Di Maria given how much better Young was would have been a prize idiot. We wouldn't have finished top 4 without Young. And actually, it was Mata who who replaced Di Maria not Young.
 
Di Maria was unreal before he signed for us , and has looked like that player once again at PSG . Sure , maybe it's geography and he just doesn't like being in Manchester , but under mourinho for us he would be a different player than what we got to see at OT
 
Di Maria being dogshite and poor was all his own doing.

Di Maria wasn't dogshite. The team was. There was zero movement and attacking intent for a player like Di Maria to flourish.
Coupled with that, LVG didn't have a clue where to play him.

The very fact that he was amazing the year before he joined - and the year after he left -shows that it was indeed the manager and not the player.
 
Zlatan broke him. He was an absolute monster in Napoli, everyone who watched him there will say you the same, I watched Napoli's games because of him. But he wasn't a good fit for Zlatan, which hurt his playing time in the preferred position and destroyed his confidence. Now he is what he is and it seems unlikely that he'll ever get back to his best

Di Maria though - majestic. Don't won't him back but it's just based on how he treated United and not on him playing level, with him, Pogba, Zlatan, Martial and Micky we'd be walking the league with 15 point gap
 
Di Maria wasn't dogshite. The team was. There was zero movement and attacking intent for a player like Di Maria to flourish.
Coupled with that, LVG didn't have a clue where to play him.

The very fact that he was amazing the year before he joined - and the year after he left -shows that it was indeed the manager and not the player.

How come Ashley Young had no problems then? These excuses were stupid then and even more stupid now. He looked like a drunk on the pitch at times which had nothing to do with LVG.

It tell me the guy never wanted to be here and fecked off at the first chance.
 
Di Maria gave up. People have forgotten how truly dreadful he was. A lot of it had nothing to do with LVG.
 
He had two assists against Metz on top of the shedload of chances he created for Cavani. A part of me wishes we still had him in the team, now that we have Mourinho as our manager. On his day he's just an unreal player and alongside Pogba and The God of Manchester he would have completely taken the piss out of this league.

I still have no idea why we signed him in the first place, even if I went into muppet overdrive when it happened. Di Maria is the least van Gaal player I can think of. Pure instinct, flair and attacking intent playing for a manager who wants to grind down opponents with measured, boring possession football. One of the weirdest signings ever, all things considered.

Di Maria gave up. People have forgotten how truly dreadful he was. A lot of it had nothing to do with LVG.

Di Maria put numbers on the board. He lost the ball a lot, which is the death knell for any player under van Gaal, but he racked up an impressive amount of assists considering how little he played and how out of place he looked.
 
Usually I feel some sympathy for players under such scrutiny but Cavani's a bow-hunter so sod it. He's cruel, he's thick (any adult who thinks Jamaica is in Africa shouldn't be allowed near cutlery) and I hope PSG dump him so I can enjoy their success.
 
Imagine if we ever actually signed him? Him and Rooney upfront would be absolutely diabolical.
By the way, those di Maria passes. :drool:
His first time over the top balls are excellent.
 
Di Maria is world class.

Laughable how we had Ashley Young playing ahead of him towards the end.
That's because Di Maria was dogshite and Young was our best player in the run in. One of the more sensible things LVG did.
Young was pivotal to us making it into the UCL. Di Maria had long mentally checked out by that point.

Right decision all day long. We couldn't afford to pander to names at that point.
 
My god, Rooney could have scored some of those.

Also I would definitely take ADM back for a small fee.
 
Another proof that stats shouldn't be the first thing to judge players by. Not even strikers.
What?
What is the Primary role of all forwards especially strikers? To score goals and Edison Cavani has scored 173 of them since 2009/10.
 
31 august, PSG realize how shit Cavani is, they offer 25 million for rooney do we take it?
For me yes, i hope they do this.
 
Seems to be crap whenever I've seen him play. I've even increased my dosage of games just to not be hasty.
He has had his off moments, but there is a reason why he has an incredible goal scoring record. On his day the man is unstoppable. Also remember that in past years at PSG he has often had to play as a wide man and second fiddle to Ibra.
 
He has had his off moments, but there is a reason why he has an incredible goal scoring record. On his day the man is unstoppable. Also remember that in past years at PSG he has often had to play as a wide man and second fiddle to Ibra.
Not when it matters.

How much of that record is in the big games and not cannon fodder?

He really isn't. It reminds me of that great line about statistics. They are like mini skirts. They don't show everything.
 
What?
What is the Primary role of all forwards especially strikers? To score goals and Edison Cavani has scored 173 of them since 2009/10.

I agree that it's a big number but it really doesn't tell you everything you need to know. He is not half as good as his record suggests, it's actually very misleading if you compare just his record with someone like Aguero who has worse goalscoring ratio than him and yet Cavani is nowhere near Aguero's level.
 
His goal scoring record is great but I have genuinely never watched him and seen him play well. That video in the OP is incredible, makes Rooney look absolutely world class.
 
I was really excited about Cavani and Falcao. Shame how it all turned out.
 
Those highlights remind me of Torres at Chelsea.

As for Di Maria I'd totally take him back if he was willing to give living in Manchester a chance. In his one season where he could barely be bothered and missed most of the second half he had more assists to his name than Young has managed in his past 5 combined. The idea that Young kept him out of the side is nonsense, Di Maria just didn't want to be here and couldn't be bothered.
 
Just saw that video again, di maria makes 5 good chances for him. We had di maria its so fecked up that LVG had to feck us over, Right player wrong time!
 
Not when it matters.

How much of that record is in the big games and not cannon fodder?

He really isn't. It reminds me of that great line about statistics. They are like mini skirts. They don't show everything.
Every single competitive game matters, because last time I checked any win against a club of any quality is worth 3 pts.

Even his Champions League record isn't as bad as people make it out to be
2015/16 UCL: 2 goals in 7 apps
2014/15: 6 goals in 10
2013/14: 4 goals in 8(played only 686 minutes though)
2012/13: 7 goals in 3
2011/12: 5 goals in 8

Are we supposed to disregard his days in Napoli where he was scoring 20+ goals easily for fun because of some alleged theory that he can't ever show up in big games?
 
That's what the oppositions fans in England (used to) say in England but in France they're all in awe of him ;)
Why ruin my fun? I wasn't hurting nobody.
 
I agree that it's a big number but it really doesn't tell you everything you need to know. He is not half as good as his record suggests, it's actually very misleading if you compare just his record with someone like Aguero who has worse goalscoring ratio than him and yet Cavani is nowhere near Aguero's level.
Why because the Seria A/ Ligue 1 isn't as good as EPL? Cavani is going to be the lead striker this year, and he will easily crack 25+ plus goals. Bring him to the EPL he'd score goals for fun.
 
Why because the Seria A/ Ligue 1 isn't as good as EPL? Cavani is going to be the lead striker this year, and he will easily crack 25+ plus goals. Bring him to the EPL he'd score goals for fun.

You think he is as good as Aguero?
 
Circa 78th and 87th minutes it's just some criminal shit. I never wanted him here for that reason, seems to have good scoring record but there's something about him that he always seems to miss every fecking chance he has, no matter how easy.
 
I don't know why but I think of him in the same way I think of Lukaku. Good goalscorers, will rack up a lot of goals in a season but they never really look like they're playing well. You also probably couldn't depend on them to get you goals when you need them.
 
You think he is as good as Aguero?
I know Aguero is definitely better than him, but I think that they are on the same level. People also seem to forget that Aguero is capable of making stupid decisions but on their day both Aguero and Cavani are both ridiculous. Aguero is just more consistent.
 
Every single competitive game matters, because last time I checked any win against a club of any quality is worth 3 pts.

Even his Champions League record isn't as bad as people make it out to be
2015/16 UCL: 2 goals in 7 apps
2014/15: 6 goals in 10
2013/14: 4 goals in 8(played only 686 minutes though)
2012/13: 7 goals in 3
2011/12: 5 goals in 8

Are we supposed to disregard his days in Napoli where he was scoring 20+ goals easily for fun because of some alleged theory that he can't ever show up in big games?
It's not alleged.

He simply struggles to perform in the biggest games. You need to perform in the biggest games to win titles like the Champions league,which happens to be PSG main objective after firing a manager who won the league in March.

You craftfully avoided mentioning the big games he showed up in and just threw more stats around .
 
Di Maria wasn't dogshite. The team was. There was zero movement and attacking intent for a player like Di Maria to flourish.
Coupled with that, LVG didn't have a clue where to play him.

The very fact that he was amazing the year before he joined - and the year after he left -shows that it was indeed the manager and not the player.

No no no, the season where everyone was dog shite and we rarely could get more than a single shot at goal in any one game was down to Di Maria. Despite that was our best player in the early games
 
I know Aguero is definitely better than him, but I think that they are on the same level. People also seem to forget that Aguero is capable of making stupid decisions but on their day both Aguero and Cavani are both ridiculous. Aguero is just more consistent.

I am not sure I understand the bold part.

Aguero is much much better player than him, IMO it's not even close and I am sure 99% people will agree. You won't find Aguero having game like this, and his peak is much higher than Cavani's.